What would you trade for Elias Petterson?

[inkman]

19 minutes ago, Weave said:

Inky is talking to himself again.

I gotta talk to someone on my level! 

[Weave]

5 minutes ago, inkman said:

I gotta talk to someone on my level! 

[Sabres73]

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/sabres-trade-favourites-canucks-pettersson 

[Sabres73]

6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How about Cozens, Power, McLeod & Rosen for Petterson and JT Miller with a promise to Miller to flip him again by the deadline?

Are you not aware that the Canucks are being forced to make a deal because Petterson and Miller hate each other? And you want to have both on the Sabres? Okay.

[GASabresIUFAN]

18 minutes ago, Sabres73 said:

Are you not aware that the Canucks are being forced to make a deal because Petterson and Miller hate each other? And you want to have both on the Sabres? Okay.

I take both and then trade Miller.  Isn’t that clear from my post?

[Rasmus_]

Mattias Samuelsson, Jokiharju and a 4th.  Don't like it, eat paint. 

[PerreaultForever]

Here's a different idea. 

Quinn, Peterka and Byram for Petterson and Dakota Joshua.

Before you scoff at it, consider that all 3 are up for contracts soon and they will likely squeeze Adams for overpays they haven't lived up to yet and maybe never will. The first 2 are replaceable since we have prospects galore in similar molds and Byram we already have in Power and Dahlin as well. Adams gets cost certainty and a Swedish star forward for his top line. 

We would also then have the flexibility to reshape the composition of the team instead of next year being more of the same and more waiting for the next ones. 

[Sabres73]

8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I take both and then trade Miller.  Isn’t that clear from my post?

Keeping them on the same team until you trade Miller at the deadline, hopefully. How do you think those players would feel, with their personality conflict blowing up the Canucks, now having to continue to play together, even if for a short period of time? Yeah, they'd think that's just swell.

[North Buffalo]

39 minutes ago, Sabres73 said:

Keeping them on the same team until you trade Miller at the deadline, hopefully. How do you think those players would feel, with their personality conflict blowing up the Canucks, now having to continue to play together, even if for a short period of time? Yeah, they'd think that's just swell.

guaranteed 1st overall pick... id trade Petterson before deadline... also get rid of TT and Cozens before Peterka. Then trade Muel and Yoke.

[Archie Lee]

3 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Here's a different idea. 

Quinn, Peterka and Byram for Petterson and Dakota Joshua.

Before you scoff at it, consider that all 3 are up for contracts soon and they will likely squeeze Adams for overpays they haven't lived up to yet and maybe never will. The first 2 are replaceable since we have prospects galore in similar molds and Byram we already have in Power and Dahlin as well. Adams gets cost certainty and a Swedish star forward for his top line. 

We would also then have the flexibility to reshape the composition of the team instead of next year being more of the same and more waiting for the next ones. 

I am pretty certain that offer doesn’t get us Pettersson, let alone return Joshua as well. I think if you subbed Kulich or Benson for Quinn it might get you Pettersson and a spare D like Desharnais or Forbort.  It would likely need to be the centre, Kulich. 

This trade isn’t happening without the Sabres giving up at least one piece that hurts. 

[LGR4GM]

Cozens, Byram, 2025 2nd rounder for Pettersson. That's my offer. 

[Flashsabre]

4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Here's a different idea. 

Quinn, Peterka and Byram for Petterson and Dakota Joshua.

Before you scoff at it, consider that all 3 are up for contracts soon and they will likely squeeze Adams for overpays they haven't lived up to yet and maybe never will. The first 2 are replaceable since we have prospects galore in similar molds and Byram we already have in Power and Dahlin as well. Adams gets cost certainty and a Swedish star forward for his top line. 

We would also then have the flexibility to reshape the composition of the team instead of next year being more of the same and more waiting for the next ones. 

Canucks need a centre back as a major piece of the deal.

Joshua got a contract and has completely forgot what got him the contract.

[Archie Lee]

54 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Cozens, Byram, 2025 2nd rounder for Pettersson. That's my offer. 

My best guess is the 3rd piece will need to hurt a little more than a 2nd rd pick. 

[Thorner]

6 hours ago, Rasmus_ said:

Mattias Samuelsson, Jokiharju and a 4th.  Don't like it, eat paint. 

Who’s the team eating paint, presumably us? 

[Porous Five Hole]

12 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I take both and then trade Miller.  Isn’t that clear from my post?

This is a bad idea.  Miller has a full no move clause. He’s not waiving it twice lol

He is probably not waiving it at all. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

18 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

This is a bad idea.  Miller has a full no move clause. He’s not waiving it twice lol

He is probably not waiving it at all. 

That’s entirely possible.  Depends on how much he wants out of Van and what teams are interested in him.  For Van management both players are probably not available.  It’s likely an either or situation unless they are truly going to clean house.  If they are cleaning house, then who knows.  My proposal to take both stems from getting the money to work.  The 2 centers have a 19 mill liability.  If we can get them to take Cozens plus Power, that’s a $15 mill liability, allowing Van to get younger and cheaper.

Then we flip Miller.  This then drops our liability from 19 back down to 11.  The key is how quickly can we flip Miller.  I fully admit that this scenario is unlikely, but not impossible. Given the size of the contracts involved cap $ coming and going are going to be a huge factor in getting a deal done. 
 

https://thecanuckway.com/what-the-canucks-should-get-from-sabres-in-potential-elias-pettersson-trade

Here is a trade proposal from a Canuck point of view.  Cozens, Power & Benson for Pettersson, Soucey and a prospect Lekkerimaki.  

This isn’t awful, but Benson is too much.  I also don't have much interest in Lekkerimaki.  He is a talented forward, but very similar to everyone else in our pipeline.  I do like adding Soucey to our defense.  

[Porous Five Hole]

17 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That’s entirely possible.  Depends on how much he wants out of Van and what teams are interested in him.  For Van management both players are probably not available.  

Your whole post is some next level Eklund E5 type of impossible 

[GASabresIUFAN]

4 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Your whole post is some next level Eklund E5 type of impossible 

That's this whole situation.  There is nothing concrete and it's all speculation.  

What would you place the odds of Adams getting a deal done for Pettersson or any high end player?  

[Mr Peabody]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That’s entirely possible.  Depends on how much he wants out of Van and what teams are interested in him.  For Van management both players are probably not available.  It’s likely an either or situation unless they are truly going to clean house.  If they are cleaning house, then who knows.  My proposal to take both stems from getting the money to work.  The 2 centers have a 19 mill liability.  If we can get them to take Cozens plus Power, that’s a $15 mill liability, allowing Van to get younger and cheaper.

Then we flip Miller.  This then drops our liability from 19 back down to 11.  The key is how quickly can we flip Miller.  I fully admit that this scenario is unlikely, but not impossible. Given the size of the contracts involved cap $ coming and going are going to be a huge factor in getting a deal done. 
 

https://thecanuckway.com/what-the-canucks-should-get-from-sabres-in-potential-elias-pettersson-trade

Here is a trade proposal from a Canuck point of view.  Cozens, Power & Benson for Pettersson, Soucey and a prospect Lekkerimaki.  

This isn’t awful, but Benson is too much.  I also don't have much interest in Lekkerimaki.  He is a talented forward, but very similar to everyone else in our pipeline.  I do like adding Soucey to our defense.  

I’d make that trade if the plan is to sign Byram for another 3+ years.

Edited Monday at 05:33 PM by Mr Peabody

[inkman]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That's this whole situation.  There is nothing concrete and it's all speculation.  

What would you place the odds of Adams getting a deal done for Pettersson or any high end player?  

Zero…roughly 

[GASabresIUFAN]

29 minutes ago, inkman said:

Zero…roughly 

Correct.  

[Stoner]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That’s entirely possible.  Depends on how much he wants out of Van and what teams are interested in him.  For Van management both players are probably not available.  It’s likely an either or situation unless they are truly going to clean house.  If they are cleaning house, then who knows.  My proposal to take both stems from getting the money to work.  The 2 centers have a 19 mill liability.  If we can get them to take Cozens plus Power, that’s a $15 mill liability, allowing Van to get younger and cheaper.

Then we flip Miller.  This then drops our liability from 19 back down to 11.  The key is how quickly can we flip Miller.  I fully admit that this scenario is unlikely, but not impossible. Given the size of the contracts involved cap $ coming and going are going to be a huge factor in getting a deal done. 
 

https://thecanuckway.com/what-the-canucks-should-get-from-sabres-in-potential-elias-pettersson-trade

Here is a trade proposal from a Canuck point of view.  Cozens, Power & Benson for Pettersson, Soucey and a prospect Lekkerimaki.  

This isn’t awful, but Benson is too much.  I also don't have much interest in Lekkerimaki.  He is a talented forward, but very similar to everyone else in our pipeline.  I do like adding Soucey to our defense.  

At least it's semi plausible.

Remember there's a GM in Vanc too who has to sell the deal to the fan base.

9 hours ago, Rasmus_ said:

Mattias Samuelsson, Jokiharju and a 4th.  Don't like it, eat paint. 

Easy there, big fella. Too much!

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 minute ago, Stoner said:

At least it's semi plausible.

Remember there's a GM in Vanc too who has to sell the deal to the fan base.

I assume you mean the Van article suggested trade.  I agree it is a workable framework.  The money is close (about 2 mill more heading to Van).  Soucy does have a full NTC which makes the deal harder.

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

That's this whole situation.  There is nothing concrete and it's all speculation.  

What would you place the odds of Adams getting a deal done for Pettersson or any high end player?  

What are the odds that our inept GM makes a major deal that benefits this team? He has already demonstrated his work product over the past five years. What makes you believe that he would be up to the task? This congenial sycophant has not shown that he is even adept at assessing his own roster, let alone counting on him to assess players on other teams. Allowing him to make a major deal is like allowing a surgeon whose nickname is "hands of stone" to do a delicate brain procedure on you. No thank you.  

[PerreaultForever]

7 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

I am pretty certain that offer doesn’t get us Pettersson, let alone return Joshua as well. I think if you subbed Kulich or Benson for Quinn it might get you Pettersson and a spare D like Desharnais or Forbort.  It would likely need to be the centre, Kulich. 

This trade isn’t happening without the Sabres giving up at least one piece that hurts. 

Okay throw in a draft pick how about that? Joshua is having a bad year that's why I think you could toss him in. Vancouver is interested in Byram that was reported earlier. They are looking for another puck mover as PP2 with Quinn as PP1. 

Honestly I'm not giving up Kulich or Benson. I would clean house and just leave those 2 if it made sense on the returns but those 2 guys aren't broken yet and they both have major upside. They are the "rookies" I want in my system.