What would you trade for Elias Petterson?

[DarthEbriate]

Byram would be in the same boat in Vancouver as here and in Colorado. He's never getting PP1 time and being the guy. At least here in Buffalo he's on the top pair because Dahlin is just good on the right side.

For EP:  Zucker or Greenway with max 50% retention to help them win now, Cozens and his money to slot into their future core, Rosen for the future, and a lottery-protected 1st. Some sort of 2nd, 3rd, or 4th coming back from Vancouver.

For JT: Cozens, and that's it. And re-sign Zucker ASAP so you have an adult in the room when JT pouts in the future. They'll end up trading JT in the future or buying him out, so they would need to minimize any assets given up.

[inkman]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

A top 5 pick in this draft helps us rebalance the pool more. Misa and Hagens would be physical forwards that aren't small. Hagens would be a 200ft playmaker at C. 

I'm not counting on them to save us, I'd count on them to improve us. We have to move a lhd at some point. We should move a current top 6 forward. We can use those pieces instead of losing a top 3 draft pick. 

Ugh.  I really can’t entertain improvements that won’t come to fruition for 5 years. This team needs to be gutted.  Remove the dead weight.  Get rid of the wilting flowers and bring in professionals who play the right way.  Enough with this core. It’s rotten. Time to start over and the draft isn’t goin to fix anything for years. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Miller is a much more likely deadline trade move for Van than EP imho.   
 

Cozens, Byram and Quinn all are on their trade list.  

[Pimlach]

45 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I think your opinion of him is inaccurate.  Yes he isn’t having a great year and dealing with a knee issue, but you’re not describing him fairly. EP has been a point per game player for his career and is elite defensively at age 26. It’s probably just a dream that he’s even available. 

Maybe so.  My opinion is based on a limited view. What I see is an unhappy floater with a ton of talent.  Buffalo Sabres hockey under Pegula incubates unhappy floaters with tons of talent.  

I want an $11M player that hates losing and makes the players around him better.  I would walk away from a trade for this guy.  

[freester]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

If we do acquire EP I suspect he will have one good season at the most, and then he turns back into the player that he is right now.  I do not want him.  He is not going to help us become a winning and hard working team.  That is not him.  

He stagnated on Vancouver where they have much higher expectations than the Pegula Sabres.   Let’s not rebuild with players that need rehab (see Lehner, Kane and Bogo), it won’t work.  

This is exactly what some people said about Eichel and that turned out great for Vegas 

[Pimlach]

56 minutes ago, inkman said:

So lying to us is the answer?  I don’t have a lot of skin in the game as I don’t care about this team much anymore, but I’d prefer people only actually report on credible information.  It’s why I was constantly at odds with folks starting “Rumor” topics. It just turns into what everyone fantasy is. Not credible actionable information.  Just people swinging their ***** in the wind.  

You can call it lying, certainly calling it exaggeration is fair.   I take all of these trade rumors tweets with a grain of salt.  I’m not defending anything they tweet either.  I am discussing how to handle the information.  Ignoring it is my way.  

I am more old school than many here, probably more so than you.   The way we get news and information has drastically changed in my lifetime.   I no longer wait for Friday afternoon to get my weekly Sports Illustrated in the mail, or scour the local newspapers everyday, or wait for a sports program to air on TV to hear about what’s happening.  

Anyone can toss something out there on X.  Speed of information is more important than detail and accuracy, and it’s about getting clicks, retweets, followers, etc.   That’s our world right now.  

[Archie Lee]

1 minute ago, freester said:

This is exactly what some people said about Eichel and that turned out great for Vegas 

True. But we had Pegula, Adams, Granato and when we decided to make a coaching change we went for the easy nostalgia hire over an actual search. At the time of the Eichel trade, Vegas had Foley, McPhee, McCrimmon and DeBoer, and when they decided on a coaching change they went out and got Bruce Cassidy. Pettersson would not be coming to anything that resembles a Vegas environment. 

[Pimlach]

4 minutes ago, freester said:

This is exactly what some people said about Eichel and that turned out great for Vegas 

Tuch, Krebs, a one, and a two.   Vegas had nothing to lose.  Even if Eichel did not recover, it was still a good risk to take.  They also were not in a 14 year rebuild, they were knocking on the door, and did not give up anything that they needed to reach their goal.  Apples and oranges comparison.   

[SabreFinn]

Absolutely not this years first. Rather both top five protected 2026 and 2027 instead.

[Flashsabre]

I would love to see the Sabres trade for EP40.

I would hate to see Adams be in charge of making that trade.

[7+6=13]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Maybe so.  My opinion is based on a limited view. What I see is an unhappy floater with a ton of talent.  Buffalo Sabres hockey under Pegula incubates unhappy floaters with tons of talent.  

I want an $11M player that hates losing and makes the players around him better.  I would walk away from a trade for this guy.  

$11M players with no issues, aren't available to be traded for.  

[GASabresIUFAN]

How about Cozens, Power, McLeod & Rosen for Petterson and JT Miller with a promise to Miller to flip him again by the deadline?

[Crusader1969]

2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How about Cozens, Power, McLeod & Rosen for Petterson and JT Miller with a promise to Miller to flip him again by the deadline?

If the Canucks are unhappy with the offers being made for Miller, you think Adams has the ability to make it better ? 

The most fun thing to do if they do trade for EP is to have a pool for how longs it takes for this site and Sabres twitter to come down on him for not being physical enough.   
 
my gut says about 10 games 

[Mr. Allen]

I’m honestly curious.   Why make a trade for Petterson or anyone else like that this year?  This year is lost, right?  

Edited 20 hours ago by Mr. Allen

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

If the Canucks are unhappy with the offers being made for Miller, you think Adams has the ability to make it better ? 

 

Yes, as we can afford to retain some salary, but it also doesn’t matter.  We need to re-imagine this roster and this is a place to start. 

[mjd1001]

10 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

If the Canucks are unhappy with the offers being made for Miller, you think Adams has the ability to make it better ? 

The most fun thing to do if they do trade for EP is to have a pool for how longs it takes for this site and Sabres twitter to come down on him for not being physical enough.   
 
my gut says about 10 games 

The Sabres need physicality, but they also need an all around center who can log top minutes, can score as well as set up guys, makes his linemates better and is pretty darn good defensively. Oh yeah, he's not a bruiser but he does have a touch of physicality to him.  

I know it was only one game, but against the leafs on HNIC earlier in January, he skated hard, he didn't shy away from checks, and he even tried to block a couple shots.

He makes this team better. If he isn't physical enough, I wouldn't blame that on him, that is a different roster piece that needs to be added.

[thewookie1]

8 hours ago, Weave said:

Why do people on the internet have to read things that aren’t there?

I didn’t say whether I endorsed it or not.  I didn’t provide my opinion on Tage Thompson.  I merely predicted that if the deal happens, Tage is part of the deal.  Sort of LaFontaine for Turgeon lite. 1C for a different 1C.

Vancouver is in win now mode.  They aren’t accepting picks or prospects as the main deal components.  I doubt they knowingly downgrade at center by accepting Cozens as the primary Buffalo component.  I think it is going to take a player that is of Thompson’s stature to pry Petterson from Van.  So that is my prediction, if Petterson is traded to Buffalo, Thompson will be going the other way.

If that's their ask then I just don't see any reason to even entertain the offer. Petersson's possible boost over Thompson is no where near worth a 4.5mil+ increase in salary as well as other assets. For it to make sense from our standpoint, we need both Thompson and Petersson at the other end of the trade. Frankly we'd just get worse seeing as Cozens would apparently secure the 2C until Kulich can outright bury him. Its the grass is greener on the other side type of approach with Cozens.

 

7 hours ago, inkman said:

What do you think other teams want?  Our worst scoring forward?

Cozens and Byram have ties to the area and are likely thought highly of. To Vancouver they may see Cozens as merely being miscasted or misled.  Never underestimate the hubris of a GM to fix someone.

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How about Cozens, Power, McLeod & Rosen for Petterson and JT Miller with a promise to Miller to flip him again by the deadline?

Hey Vanc here's some junk. Please put it out on garbage night for us.

[Crusader1969]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

The Sabres need physicality, but they also need an all around center who can log top minutes, can score as well as set up guys, makes his linemates better and is pretty darn good defensively. Oh yeah, he's not a bruiser but he does have a touch of physicality to him.  

I know it was only one game, but against the leafs on HNIC earlier in January, he skated hard, he didn't shy away from checks, and he even tried to block a couple shots.

He makes this team better. If he isn't physical enough, I wouldn't blame that on him, that is a different roster piece that needs to be added.

I think it would be a great add for the Sabres. 
I really doubt it happens as only clown franchises trade away their #1 Center 

then again , there was a time when the Canucks did take the clown franchise of the league title away from the Sabres during the Bruce Brudeau era.  So I guess there's a little chance they trade EP

 

[inkman]

6 hours ago, inkman said:

Ugh.  I really can’t entertain improvements that won’t come to fruition for 5 years. This team needs to be gutted.  Remove the dead weight.  Get rid of the wilting flowers and bring in professionals who play the right way.  Enough with this core. It’s rotten. Time to start over and the draft isn’t goin to fix anything for years. 

Right. Let’s build around the losers with more inexperience and youth. That’ll work…some decade.  

[steveoath]

2 hours ago, Mr. Allen said:

I’m honestly curious.   Why make a trade for Petterson or anyone else like that this year?  This year is lost, right?  

His NMC doesn’t kick in until July. 

[inkman]

2 hours ago, Mr. Allen said:

I’m honestly curious.   Why make a trade for Petterson or anyone else like that this year?  This year is lost, right?  

Because they need to remake the roster indefinitely.  It’s not for this season or next season, it’s for the remainder of this franchise’s existence.  

[kas23]

1 hour ago, thewookie1 said:

Cozens and Byram have ties to the area and are likely thought highly of. To Vancouver they may see Cozens as merely being miscasted or misled.  Never underestimate the hubris of a GM to fix someone.

I think this may be our only saving grace. GMs across the league have seen players blow up once removed from the Sabres. Us fans even think they are grossly being mismanaged. Even Mitts is a 0.6 PPG player and still could see him improving. 

[Flashsabre]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

How about Cozens, Power, McLeod & Rosen for Petterson and JT Miller with a promise to Miller to flip him again by the deadline?

Because Miller would laugh in your face

[Weave]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

Right. Let’s build around the losers with more inexperience and youth. That’ll work…some decade.  

Inky is talking to himself again.