What would you trade for Elias Petterson?

[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

The bold is the way to build a Cup winner.  You have to get in the upper echelon first.  Looking for short cuts won't work because this team doesn't attract the right players.  Once you get to the top tier good players will come here and you can fine tune from there.  

A top 8 team in Buffalo, one that is a contender every year, will bring fans back and attract new ones.  

Winning games needs to be the priority again.  Not draft picks.  

I never understand this idea. You have to draft well, period. You have to do that to get into the top 8 even if you are trading those drafted players away for established players. We will never be Florida or Vegas where the destination draws ppl outright but yes winning draws ppl too. Buffalo acquired all these assets but never decided to turn those assets into something, they just sit on them... forever. 

[Pimlach]

11 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I never understand this idea. You have to draft well, period. You have to do that to get into the top 8 even if you are trading those drafted players away for established players. We will never be Florida or Vegas where the destination draws ppl outright but yes winning draws ppl too. Buffalo acquired all these assets but never decided to turn those assets into something, they just sit on them... forever. 

Yes, I also meant trading NHL players for more picks, and then sitting on the picks.  Which is our cycle right now.  

 

[JP51]

Well this tells me this guy would fit the Sabres motif to a tee

 

https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/he-wants-win-bad-gets-hot-headed-when-elias-pettersson-gave-honest-description-canucks-teammate-j-t-miller-s-personality

[Crusader1969]

On 12/21/2024 at 10:08 AM, freester said:

I would offer Cozens and Samuelson and Rosen. Idk if that gets it done. 

I like it. Probably I like it too much which means it's probably not good enough for Vancouver

here is a thought:

Let's assume they know Zucker wants to go into free agency 

Trade him now, while his value is high - get a first rounder for him

add that 1st round pick to to offer to Vancouver.   That's 3 first round players and a 6'4 Dman    Maybe that entices them? 

Edited January 14 by Crusader1969

[JP51]

12 hours ago, Crusader1969 said:

I like it. Probably I like it too much which means it's probably not good enough for Vancouver

here is a thought:

Let's assume they know Zucker wants to go into free agency 

Trade him now, while his value is high - get a first rounder for him

add that 1st round pick to to offer to Vancouver.   That's 3 first round players and a 6'4 Dman    Maybe that entices them? 

When EP says stuff like this in response to why is there an problem with you and JT Miller, it scares me that we are just getting another talented guy without the DNA to be a player that is part of the solution... maybe its just a sound bite... but I would prefer if he was the one who wanted to win so bad and they were calling him hot headed... jmo

“He’s a skillful player (JT Miller) but he’s, I don’t know if emotional is the right word. He wants to win so bad sometimes he maybe gets too hot-headed, if that’s the right word. He cares a lot, and he just wants to win.”

[Archie Lee]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

When EP says stuff like this in response to why is there an problem with you and JT Miller, it scares me that we are just getting another talented guy without the DNA to be a player that is part of the solution... maybe its just a sound bite... but I would prefer if he was the one who wanted to win so bad and they were calling him hot headed... jmo

“He’s a skillful player (JT Miller) but he’s, I don’t know if emotional is the right word. He wants to win so bad sometimes he maybe gets too hot-headed, if that’s the right word. He cares a lot, and he just wants to win.”

In fairness, Miller appears to be a next level wanker. And Pettersson is not speaking in his first language. It comes across as Pettersson not having a commitment to winning, but it could just be him trying to diplomatically say: Miller is a (insert preferred expletive). 

I have concerns about Pettersson. That he personally doesn’t like JT Miller, is not one of my concerns. 

[mjd1001]

The more I think about it, the more I want Pettersson here if it can be done.

Yeah the drop in production, whatever it is going on with Miller, and the contract are all issues to think about. But if those things weren't there, there is no chance he would be on the market.

I always perceived him as a player I liked. I know its only one game, but I watched in vs the Leafs on Saturday and he played really hard, he hustled, he got in the way of shots, he made some really good defensive plays.  

He does not look at all like a perimeter player and he does hustle on plays.  That alleviates most of my concerns.

[JP51]

29 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

In fairness, Miller appears to be a next level wanker. And Pettersson is not speaking in his first language. It comes across as Pettersson not having a commitment to winning, but it could just be him trying to diplomatically say: Miller is a (insert preferred expletive). 

I have concerns about Pettersson. That he personally doesn’t like JT Miller, is not one of my concerns. 

Fair

[Crusader1969]

On 1/14/2025 at 10:57 AM, Archie Lee said:

In fairness, Miller appears to be a next level wanker. And Pettersson is not speaking in his first language. It comes across as Pettersson not having a commitment to winning, but it could just be him trying to diplomatically say: Miller is a (insert preferred expletive). 

I have concerns about Pettersson. That he personally doesn’t like JT Miller, is not one of my concerns. 

If both were 26 , I'd prefer Miller but with Miller at 31 (not to mention playing the type of game where his body could start breaking down) and EP at 26

EP is the target 

Side note - Insider Trading on TSN is now saying that Miller is much more likely to be traded then EP

[Porous Five Hole]

8 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

If both were 26 , I'd prefer Miller but with Miller at 31 (not to mention playing the type of game where his body could start breaking down) and EP at 26

EP is the target 

Side note - Insider Trading on TSN is now saying that Miller is much more likely to be traded then EP

JT Miller lives in Pittsburgh during the offseason. MAYBE he would be willing to waive his NMC to play In Buffalo if the closer distance helps his (leave of absence) issue?

I doubt it.  

But that could be the type of guy this locker room needs and to hell with the contract in year’s 5-7. Win mode now if I recall?

[DarthEbriate]

It would take a lot less in cost to acquire Miller.

On the other hand, that means 3 teams felt he was not worth keeping around despite good-to-great production. He also has that pesky NMC that Pettersson does not.

[inkman]

 

[Porous Five Hole]

6 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

[inkman]

20 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I’m not super jacked about it but at this point they need to do something.  

[Flashsabre]

35 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

Do It!! EP40 is a great player. Great playmaker, great defensively, can snipe. A true number 1 centre.

Build around EP40 and his friend Dahlin on the backend. 
 

Staying the course with this lineup is a non starter. Make some bold moves. Try something different.

[inkman]

5 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Do It!! EP40 is a great player. Great playmaker, great defensively, can snipe. A true number 1 centre.

Build around EP40 and his friend Dahlin on the backend. 
 

Staying the course with this lineup is a non starter. Make some bold moves. Try something different.

I hope it’s just the tip of the iceberg.  They need to remake the roster.  If Cozens and Byram go the other way, great.  Figure out a way to get some veterans on the roster to sprinkle around all the shooters (Tage, Quinn, JJ, Kulich).  

[GASabresIUFAN]

51 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

Sure, why not.  Power and our top 5 pick.  

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Sure, why not.  Power and our top 5 pick.  

I was looking at the D depth.  🤮 Power is instantly their 2nd best D. 

[freester]

10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Sure, why not.  Power and our top 5 pick.  

NFW.
Cozens, Rosen, Samuelson,  top 5 protected pick

[thewookie1]

12 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Sure, why not.  Power and our top 5 pick.  

I'd do Cozens and Byram but as I've said before our 1st is off the table without Top 5 protection

[thewookie1]

I loved a Pens fan offering M Pettersson for Jokiharju and a 4th

Get E Pettersson for Cozens and Byram

 

Pettersson reinforcements and we’d have 30 games to figure out an extension with Marcus to be Power’s partner. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

58 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Sure, why not.  Power and our top 5 pick.  

 

47 minutes ago, inkman said:

I was looking at the D depth.  🤮 Power is instantly their 2nd best D. 

 

46 minutes ago, freester said:

NFW.
Cozens, Rosen, Samuelson,  top 5 protected pick

 

45 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

I'd do Cozens and Byram but as I've said before our 1st is off the table without Top 5 protection

Come on folks, what are the odds of Adams completing a deal like this for any price?  Honestly, I doubt even Adams would be stupid enough to trade a top 5 pick, but given how well managed this team is, I wouldn’t put anything past him which is why I put forth the Power and pick idea.  

I also think Cozens and Byram won’t be enough to get the deal done.  Van is trying to save money.  They won’t want the 14-15 million liability that comes with those two players. 

I could see Power and Benson for Pettersson.  If Van is moving on from Miller and Pettersson, they are going to want some real forward talent back.  They may not think anyone in the Sabres system brings that except our top 5 pick.  Van’s pick is 12th currently.  Maybe the deal includes a swap of 1sts.

Friedman can report what he wants, but I don’t see Adams pulling off the deal.

 

 

 

[Weave]

It’ll be Tage Thompson moving out if it happens.  Book it.

[PerreaultForever]

I could be wrong but I think it's a bad idea. Having said that I fully expect Adams to be all in on trying to get him. 

[Porous Five Hole]

I realize there’s no comparable trade to point to and this is unconventional, but if EP isn’t currently damaged by tendinitis, my offer is Cozens + our first rounder for EP. It probably won’t happen because it just doesn’t happen, but I would do it.
And the only reason Vancouver would do it is because they have to move on from either Miller or EP…and offers for Miller are not close to this. Nor would offers be close to this for EP (especially because most teams are Cap teams and they need dollar in-dollar out).  

Our first will be in the top five. It’s a hefty price to pay, but I’m paying it. The concept of Martone or Misa sounds nice, but that puts the Sabres 2-3 years away from that player’s arrival.  I don’t want to wait that long to be good. Pettersson is the real deal and fully formed. No more relying on youth and the future.
Making Tage 2C makes this team A LOT better today and that’s what I’m most concerned about.  

No one expected to have this asset (a top five pick) when the season started. Use it to upgrade now.