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If the only move is something like Petterson and Desharnais for Cozens and Byram, I don’t think it moves the needle for me. Pettersson is the best player in the trade I think, but we aren’t getting appreciably better (ie: playoffs next year) until we decide to support our core with players ready to play and win in the NHL. If we are still running out a group of not-fully-ready for-prime-time-kids, we are just going to be under-supporting Pettersson instead of Cozens and Byram. And we have seen how that goes.

 

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10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

More important question: would he come here? 

Every team knows we are desperate and will hold us up for a bag of pucks

The Canucks are clinging to the 8th WC spot, I’d say they are desperate in a different way. 

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For everyone ready to break the bank for Pettersson go to the canucks board and read about the fued between the swede and JTMiller that goes back to last season . If you want more disfunction on the Sabres it’ll work out just fine. Many of the comments use the word ‘soft’ as well.

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12 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

That was my thought when I saw this thread. I'd rather have Miller. Not even close. 

Miller is weak defensively and a wanker to his teammates. Tampa benched him in the playoffs and could not get rid of him fast enough. He is a skilled player no doubt, but in my view he is an a-hole masquerading as a competitor. 

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14 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

Miller is weak defensively and a wanker to his teammates. Tampa benched him in the playoffs and could not get rid of him fast enough. He is a skilled player no doubt, but in my view he is an a-hole masquerading as a competitor. 

The Sabres need more wankers 

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Freely admit I did not read the whole thread...

If we are concerned about players on this team getting a large contract and then tuning out the game of hockey, Pettersson is not your answer.

I wouldn't worry about his NMC. After a few years here he's accept a trade to the Siberian team of the KHL.

Also, I don't think he's a good fit for this team at this time. This team needs a veteran player even if their contract will be expensive in 3-5 years. They need leaders to come in and change the mindset of this team.

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50 minutes ago, inkman said:

The Sabres need more wankers 

Not of this kind. A few more players who are wankers on the ice to the opposition?  Yes. A wanker who doesn’t play defence and pouts when things aren’t going well and who doesn’t get along with teammates?  No thanks. Trust Jon Cooper on this one.

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On 12/21/2024 at 4:41 PM, inkman said:

Petterson is not the answer to the Sabres problems.  He resembles the problems more than the solution.  

Exactly... trading one of our only kinda gritty guys for more soft under performing perimeter guys is not the answer.  But bottom line if Adams is still the GM that is exactly the trade I suspect. 

On 12/21/2024 at 7:08 PM, freester said:

His name is Brady Tkachuk

and if it is possible to get him we should... 

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31 minutes ago, JP51 said:

Exactly... trading one of our only kinda gritty guys for more soft under performing perimeter guys is not the answer.  But bottom line if Adams is still the GM that is exactly the trade I suspect. 

 

I'm not sure how you say he is a perimter guy?  He's not.

In the few games I have watched him, he spend a lot of time in the offensive zone in front of or on the side or immediately behind the net, its noticable.  And as far as measurables, he takes slightly MORE shots from the 'high danger' areas (right in front of the net, 0-5 feet out) than Cozens does.  Those numbers hold true this year, and last year, and the year before (basically ever year the numbers are available on NHL edge)

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9 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I'm not sure how you say he is a perimter guy?  He's not.

In the few games I have watched him, he spend a lot of time in the offensive zone in front of or on the side or immediately behind the net, its noticable.  And as far as measurables, he takes slightly MORE shots from the 'high danger' areas (right in front of the net, 0-5 feet out) than Cozens does.  Those numbers hold true this year, and last year, and the year before (basically ever year the numbers are available on NHL edge)

I am going to trust you... I guess... I have seen very little of him very little opportunity to see him play I go to bed early lol... anyways when I have seen him play I did not get the impression he was a physical power guy that crashed the tough places... skilled with the puck good speed soft hands... but not a power guy... but again... I have very limited exposure to him from game to game... 

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24 minutes ago, JP51 said:

I am going to trust you... I guess... I have seen very little of him very little opportunity to see him play I go to bed early lol... anyways when I have seen him play I did not get the impression he was a physical power guy that crashed the tough places... skilled with the puck good speed soft hands... but not a power guy... but again... I have very limited exposure to him from game to game... 

He's not overly physical, I'll give that to you.  But in a way he is similar to Cozens in that he will go to the front of the net, he'll skate through the slot area, between the circles.  The way I think he's better than Cozens is when he lets go of a shot from there, hes a bit of a better shooter.  More importantly, once Cozens gets the puck in tight, its almost always a shot.  With Pettersson, he can be in tight but still sees/knows where his teamates are and is able to move the puck out of tight area in close if a line-mate has a better shot.  Thats at least what I noticed...

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9 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

Miller is weak defensively and a wanker to his teammates. Tampa benched him in the playoffs and could not get rid of him fast enough. He is a skilled player no doubt, but in my view he is an a-hole masquerading as a competitor. 

Sure. Right. Not the kind of guy we want here. We need more little Swedes. 

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16 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Sure. Right. Not the kind of guy we want here. We need more little Swedes. 

I don’t think I have advocated for trading for Pettersson (who isn’t that small actually). I just don’t think adding a personality like Miller would be good for the Sabres. He is an arsonist in my view. A veteran playoff team can absorb his personality for a year or two.  In the end he will try to burn it down though. Adding Miller to the Sabres would be throwing gas on a raging fire. 

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Miller has a no movement clause so if the nucks need to divorce these two it's Petterson who will go somewhere but they have to do it this year. No way Miller would waive to come here.

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23 hours ago, Sabres73 said:

"Ex-Vancouver Canucks teammate weighs in on Miller-Pettersson drama". Vancouver Daily Hive. https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/miller-pettersson-rift-explained-canucks-teammate 

I just have zero interest in having Pettersson on the Sabres.

 

Would not want Miller either though, Sounds like having O'Reilly 2.0 around our young core.

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On 12/21/2024 at 5:28 PM, Carmel Corn said:

Sure….if you think Sabre fandom can wait another 2 years for this $hitshow to turnaround.  IMHO - changes cannot wait that long and we need to acquire (not develop) top 6 talent that is higher quality than what we already have.  
Maybe under normal circumstances, we can wait….but this situation is so bad that there isn’t enough patience in all of Erie county (and beyond) to wait and hope our talent can develop.

But if an org makes choices based on fan sentiment, rather than smart roster management, then that org is cooked. (Or MORE cooked in this case)

Citation: see also Russ Brandon's drought-era Bills

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