gilbert11 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 It seems like just a few days ago that the Sabres were only 4 points back of the last wildcard spot. Now itโs 10 points so Adios! Sayonara! Aloha! Donโt let the door hit you in the butt on the way out! 1 Quote
Kristian Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 4:31 AM, Archie Lee said: It's incredible the negative impact that complacency has had on this team. I legitimately feel sorry for the players. I was bitter, at the time, when O'Reilly and Eichel wanted out. Today, I would not begrudge any of our players for publicly stating they don't want to be a part of this any longer. Expand Buffalo is where careers go to die. Hockey-hell. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 8:14 AM, Kristian said: Buffalo is where careers go to die. Hockey-hell. Expand Amen Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) I had 30 seconds of enjoyment in this game when Tage belted Matthews and then held his own well against Reilly. For 30 seconds Tage was a hockey player. That was fun. The rest had me nodding off. Edited December 21, 2024 by PerreaultForever 3 Quote
Billznut Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 3:54 AM, Crusader1969 said: Not sure if anyone else likes to gamble on sports BUT if you are FanDuel has Sabres at +1800 for last place for comparison sharks are only at +110 may as well profit from the Terrys dumpster Franchise Expand As of 5 am itโs at +1600 for last place. Still decent odds. Made my bet. 1 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 It's sad because that was the first game they showed even the slightest bit of "grit" maybe "poise" idk, maybe it was 26 back. But ultimately just more of the same. There was little of that play in the last 11 games before last night also..... We're on to next season before Christmas again 2 1 Quote
CallawaySabres Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 I really hope they get to 18 losses in a row. I want the national media to embarrass them more and more with every loss as well. I want this organization to feel pain so itโs not only the fans that have felt it. I want players, coaches and owners to all feel it. 2 1 3 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 12:18 AM, Slack_in_MA said: So if there's no whistle, who determines there was a penalty after the fact? If there was no goal, would there have been no penalty? Expand I watched the highlights and they did not even try explaining what happened there. 2024 can't end fast enough Quote
MISabresFan Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 How can someone who runs anything not see any of this poop, while watching. Wow! The players have to be embarrassed if they have any pride at all. Everyone else in this organization has to be wondering if they will have a job. Running scared. I would pull an Arizona/Utah and start selling everything. Need to remove the doom and gloom surrounding this franchise. Something outrageous needs to happen to add some kind of spark to light any glimmer of hope. Might need to lean on the people responsible for the Bills turnaround to help (after the nfl season - which is never over) with the clean up. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 12:57 PM, CallawaySabres said: I really hope they get to 18 losses in a row. I want the national media to embarrass them more and more with every loss as well. I want this organization to feel pain so itโs not only the fans that have felt it. I want players, coaches and owners to all feel it. Expand Yes, total and complete national humiliation is the only hope now. Letโs hope Chicago doesnโt disappoint us. Any team that has Buffalo on the schedule in the next month does NOT want to be the team that loses to the Sabresโฆ.as it would be a humiliation for them. 1 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) On 12/21/2024 at 5:25 AM, SwampD said: It was a high stick. With blood. Expand Missed by the officials and not called until a Sabres goal was scored. Have you ever seen a retroactive penalty call made by a linesman? Only in Buffalo, I guess Then there's the GI call. ๐ต I get were all rooting for failure here, but c'mon. You ask if the players are embarrassed, but how would you feel when this s**t keeps happening to take away any progress you make? Absolutely snakebite. Edited December 21, 2024 by PromoTheRobot Quote
LTS Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Missed by the officials and not called until a Sabres goal was scored. Have you ever seen a retroactive penalty call made by a linesman? Only in Buffalo, I guess Expand Yes, actually. Multiple times I have seen officials congregate after a whistle to determine a high-stick infraction occurred. It's not only in Buffalo. It was the right call. It sucks that it happened, but it was the right call. 2 Quote
SwampD Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Missed by the officials and not called until a Sabres goal was scored. Have you ever seen a retroactive penalty call made by a linesman? Only in Buffalo, I guess Then there's the GI call. ๐ต I get were all rooting for failure here, but c'mon. You ask if the players are embarrassed, but how would you feel when this s**t keeps happening to take away any progress you make? Absolutely snakebite. Expand I have never seen it. Didnโt even know it was a thing. But they changed the rules recently, where a coach can challenge a play for a penalty or something that would have stopped play (like a hand pass) and figured it was just part of that. I agree that they are snakebite. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 21, 2024 Author Report Posted December 21, 2024 They aren't snakebit, they simply lack talent. 1 1 Quote
SwampD Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 Is Bryson hurt or just in the press box? I know some will disagree with me, but I would have rather seen Bryson last night than Gilbert. Yes I know Gilbert hits, but, thatโs about it. Heโs pretty bad at everything else and Toronto isnโt exactly a heavy team. I think Brysonโs speed would have served us better than Gilbertโs hitting. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 2:41 PM, SwampD said: Is Bryson hurt or just in the press box? I know some will disagree with me, but I would have rather seen Bryson last night than Gilbert. Yes I know Gilbert hits, but, thatโs about it. Heโs pretty bad at everything else and Toronto isnโt exactly a heavy team. I think Brysonโs speed would have served us better than Gilbertโs hitting. Expand So who is the lesser of these 3 evils: Bryson, Gilbert or Joki (in your opinion)? Quote
Pimlach Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 8:36 AM, PerreaultForever said: I had 30 seconds of enjoyment in this game when Tage belted Matthews and then held his own well against Reilly. For 30 seconds Tage was a hockey player. That was fun. The rest had me nodding off. Expand Powerโs second goal was nice. Unfortunately the league is completely stupid on goalie interference. On 12/21/2024 at 2:45 PM, Carmel Corn said: So who is the lesser of these 3 evils: Bryson, Gilbert or Joki (in your opinion)? Expand They are equal. Depends on the day and the opponent. Joker should grade out the highest but lacks consistency. 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 12:57 PM, CallawaySabres said: I really hope they get to 18 losses in a row. I want the national media to embarrass them more and more with every loss as well. I want this organization to feel pain so itโs not only the fans that have felt it. I want players, coaches and owners to all feel it. Expand Fans feel it, players feel it, coaches feel it, .... not sure about the owners. No commitment to winning from the top, just words and slogans and irrational behavior. I feel for the people in the organization that actually care. Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 1:39 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Missed by the officials and not called until a Sabres goal was scored. Have you ever seen a retroactive penalty call made by a linesman? Only in Buffalo, I guess Then there's the GI call. ๐ต I get were all rooting for failure here, but c'mon. You ask if the players are embarrassed, but how would you feel when this s**t keeps happening to take away any progress you make? Absolutely snakebite. Expand I've seen it before once or twice but it was far more direct situations. One of them was a two on one in a game where #2 guy high sticked the defenseman as he got to the net and cut the guy as the goal was scored. Refs didn't see it, but a linesman saw the stick get high. In this case the high stick really wasn't an egregious slashing of the face, honestly I'm confused as to how it drew blood to begin with, and wasn't integral to the goal being scored. Couple that with at least two non-calls on that 4 minute PK with one involving Toronto tripping Malenstyn thus directly leading to the 2-0 goal is outright lunacy. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) On 12/21/2024 at 4:09 PM, thewookie1 said: I've seen it before once or twice but it was far more direct situations. One of them was a two on one in a game where #2 guy high sticked the defenseman as he got to the net and cut the guy as the goal was scored. Refs didn't see it, but a linesman saw the stick get high. In this case the high stick really wasn't an egregious slashing of the face, honestly I'm confused as to how it drew blood to begin with, and wasn't integral to the goal being scored. Couple that with at least two non-calls on that 4 minute PK with one involving Toronto tripping Malenstyn thus directly leading to the 2-0 goal is outright lunacy. Expand The GI contact had no impact on Murray stopping the goal either, but there you go. That decision is 180-degees opposite of the call when UPL had his glove contacted during a goal. No consistent application of the rules. Edited December 21, 2024 by PromoTheRobot Quote
Crusader1969 Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 2:41 PM, SwampD said: Is Bryson hurt or just in the press box? I know some will disagree with me, but I would have rather seen Bryson last night than Gilbert. Yes I know Gilbert hits, but, thatโs about it. Heโs pretty bad at everything else and Toronto isnโt exactly a heavy team. I think Brysonโs speed would have served us better than Gilbertโs hitting. Expand How about Neither? And have them take Jokiharju and Clifton with them not sure any belong in the league at this point Quote
SwampD Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 5:26 PM, Crusader1969 said: How about Neither? And have them take Jokiharju and Clifton with them not sure any belong in the league at this point Expand Thatโs a different discussion. Iโm just talking about the coaching decision for last night. Iโm not as down on Joki as others and he is still youngish for a D man. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 2:55 PM, Pimlach said: Powerโs second goal was nice. Unfortunately the league is completely stupid on goalie interference. They are equal. Depends on the day and the opponent. Joker should grade out the highest but lacks consistency. Expand That's fair, it was a nice play against a weak Leafs D. I've seen goals called off for less with that rule though. Agree it's stupid. I'm sure you remember Jim Lorentz. Imagine how he'd struggle under today's rules. He was no Dornhoeffer, but boy did he like to sit in tight on goalies. I imagine big Dave would lose a lot of his goal totals as well. I'm old, I liked old hockey better. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 8:11 PM, PerreaultForever said: That's fair, it was a nice play against a weak Leafs D. I've seen goals called off for less with that rule though. Agree it's stupid. I'm sure you remember Jim Lorentz. Imagine how he'd struggle under today's rules. He was no Dornhoeffer, but boy did he like to sit in tight on goalies. I imagine big Dave would lose a lot of his goal totals as well. I'm old, I liked old hockey better. Expand Yes, Lorentz was willing to take a beating to get his goals. Another great pickup back in the day when our GM made move to improve the team. Lorentz cost us a 2nd rounder (to Rangers) and that player saw the NHL. Why our GM canโt find a few better players with all the capital stockpiled is crazy. A good GM could fix this. We need about 4 players to be competitive. Quote
Marty Posted December 21, 2024 Report Posted December 21, 2024 On 12/21/2024 at 10:34 PM, Pimlach said: Yes, Lorentz was willing to take a beating to get his goals. Another great pickup back in the day when our GM made move to improve the team. Lorentz cost us a 2nd rounder (to Rangers) and that player saw the NHL. Why our GM canโt find a few better players with all the capital stockpiled is crazy. A good GM could fix this. We need about 4 players to be competitive. Expand Yeahโฆ Wayne Gretzky, Bobby Orr, Dom Hasek andโฆ oh hell, with just those 3 we might win a game or two. Quote
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