What in the world happened to Jack Quinn?

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

The season is over now anyway as Adams and Pegula won’t or can’t make the necessary changes.  Who cares who they play?  
 

As to Quinn, the track record of young players who produced as his record setting pace at his age in the AHL is a very successful list.  He Will bounce back successfully in the NHL.  

 

Serious question, and I'm not being sarcastic because I truly don't know if this is the case....

What records did Quinn set for his age in the AHL?

[GASabresIUFAN]

His AHL season at age 20 was the best pts/GP by a 20 year old in nearly 20 years.  Only guys like Satan and Briere, 2 generations before had comparable seasons.

[Ctaeth]

IMO, the only reasonable conclusion is that he is physically hampered.  He's been amazing at every level prior to the NHL & has demonstrated MUCH better play than this already at the NHL level (including in his rookie year).   Play doesn't just drop off this precipitously.  Cozens has regressed, but what Quinn is outputting goes beyond just simple regression.

[EM88]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

His AHL season at age 20 was the best pts/GP by a 20 year old in nearly 20 years.  Only guys like Satan and Briere, 2 generations before had comparable seasons.

For the entire league or just the Sabres organization?

[GASabresIUFAN]

7 minutes ago, EM88 said:

For the entire league or just the Sabres organization?

AHL history. FYI, Satan and Briere were not Sabres prospects while in the AHL.  

Edited December 10 by GASabresIUFAN

[ska-T Palmtown]

34 minutes ago, Ctaeth said:

IMO, the only reasonable conclusion is that he is physically hampered.  He's been amazing at every level prior to the NHL & has demonstrated MUCH better play than this already at the NHL level (including in his rookie year).   Play doesn't just drop off this precipitously.  Cozens has regressed, but what Quinn is outputting goes beyond just simple regression.

He looked fine - and produced at a rate above his rookie year stats - both times he came back last season. Unless, you are implying he has another, undisclosed, ailment that is vexing him this year?

[Ctaeth]

59 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

He looked fine - and produced at a rate above his rookie year stats - both times he came back last season. Unless, you are implying he has another, undisclosed, ailment that is vexing him this year?

I am indeed implying that.  People have noted that he is significantly slower this year than the preceding years.  IMO, it's the only thing that explains why his play has dropped off a cliff.  

[Cranky old man]

I do not believe he is fully healed even from his earlier injury. This has caused him to be tentative, leading to poor outcomes and a view from the box. There may be something to the argument that he is adjusting to Ruff’s coaching rigors. To me, any athlete who suffers two serious injuries in two consecutive years, cannot possibly be the same physically in three. 

[mjd1001]

3 hours ago, Ctaeth said:

I am indeed implying that.  People have noted that he is significantly slower this year than the preceding years.  IMO, it's the only thing that explains why his play has dropped off a cliff.  

If you look at his metrics, the biggest reason for his drop-off in offensive production is that he is not going to, nor getting shots off close to the net. He is playing the most perimeter game of any forward on the team, and that was not the case last year or the year before.

He simply is not going to the 'tougher' areas on the ice in the offensive zone, and when he does, he is more or less 'skating through' and not staying there.  I posted his shots on goal taken this year vs last year and the year before in another thread, the numbers are startling to say the least.

[ska-T Palmtown]

4 hours ago, Cranky old man said:

I do not believe he is fully healed even from his earlier injury. This has caused him to be tentative, leading to poor outcomes and a view from the box. There may be something to the argument that he is adjusting to Ruff’s coaching rigors. To me, any athlete who suffers two serious injuries in two consecutive years, cannot possibly be the same physically in three. 

Again, his time last year immediately following the injuries do bear truth to this hunch. He. was. playing. better.