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What in the world happened to Jack Quinn?  

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  1. 1. What happened to Quinn?

    • Injuries have damaged his ability to play. Temporarily or Permanently
    • He's having his sophomore slump a year late due to his previous shortened season.
    • The Quinn we saw in both Year 1 and Year 2 was a mirage and he was never good to begin with.
    • Lindy Ruff's system has him perplexed and unable to function
    • Quinn can't handle Lindy versus Granato's style of critique/coaching/punishment
    • Other
  2. 2. Can Quinn find his way back?

    • Yes - he'll be a Top 6 Forward before you know it!
    • Yes - he'll be a Mid-6 Forward
    • Yes - but he'll never be a Top 6 player
    • No - He's damaged physically or mentally
    • No - The curtain has been moved to find the Wizard is just a man after all
    • No - Actual NHL coaching is too much for him to handle.
  3. 3. Can Quinn be salvaged?

    • Yes - Of course, he'll be back to a solid player by year's end regardless
    • Yes - He needs different linemates/a different coaching approach/other
    • Yes/No - He needs to be traded and as such the return will decide
    • No - He will never approach a Top 6 player again and we'll never trade him so he may as well be scrap metal
    • DOOM - He'll never play better here but anywhere else he'll be a Top 6 star


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29 minutes ago, sabremike said:

While Jack Quinn is one of the worst most negative value players in the entire league Marco Rossi is tearing it up in Minnesota.

HECKUVA JOB KEVYN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i mean - Quinn might also be nearly a point per game player if we were playing with Kirill The Thrill instead of Dylan Not Thrillin' (that worked out better than I could have hoped for)

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18 hours ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

i mean - Quinn might also be nearly a point per game player if we were playing with Kirill The Thrill instead of Dylan Not Thrillin' (that worked out better than I could have hoped for)

Quinn is the biggest mystery to me on this team.  I am baffled. I cannot even come up with a concept as to what has happened to him.

An offseason injury we didn't know about that he is playing through MIGHT explain things, but the team has stated a few times there is nothing to that at all.

One thing is for sure. He IS avoiding the front of the net unlike anyone else on this team, unlike anyone else in the league probabably, and unlike he has in his first couple of years.

I know I just posted this a few days ago in this very thread but...

-compared to other Sabres wingers on how much they are going to the front of the net and getting shots off from there this year:  Benson has 23 high danger shots(46.9% of his shots). Peterka has 18 (24.7%). Tuch has 22 (26.8%), Zucker has 30 (44.8%).  Quinn? Quinn has 1 (1.8%)

-There is probably not a more 'perimeter' top 6/top9 forward in the league now than Quinn. Even Olofsson has 15% of his shots from those areas in front of the net for Vegas this year, and 18% last year for the Sabres.

I just have zero clue, zero way to even explain the above. It has to be related to his lack of production, but why is he almost refusing to go to the front of the net anymore and all of a sudden?

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After scoring 4 goals in 5 games to appear to 'come out' of whatever slump he was in (and took 13 shots on goal in those 5 games), Quinn now hasn't even had a single shot on net in his last 3 games despite 15+ minutes of ice time in each of them and time on the first power play unit.

I really am struggling to figure him out.

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On 1/1/2025 at 6:08 PM, ska-T Palmtown said:

I don't know why The Myth Of Jack Quinn's Recovery persists. The numbers and the fabled 'eye test' from last year - the time most immediate to his two recoveries contradicts this sentiment in every way.

**Tears Achilles Tendon, owwie! comes back at the early end of the recovery window**

Dec 19 - Jan 27: 17 gams, 12 points, or ~58 points/82 pace (better than his rookie year of ~40 pts/82gms)

**Breaks leg, ouch! misses ~8 weeks**

Mar 27 - April 15: 10 games, 7 points, or ~ 57 point pace (again, better than his rookie year)

So TWICE last season he came back from injury and both times he was outplaying his rookie year numbers.

The 👏 injuries 👏 are 👏 not 👏 his 👏 problem 👏 this 👏 year 👏.

@PickaPecaPickles might be on to something about the style of play or trying to play responsibly.

Looks like Ruff has had enough of those three playing together as practice lines in Vegas are the same: Cozens up to first line; Tuch to second with Quinn and Kulich; and JJP with Krebs and Benson.

Posted
18 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

Quinn is the biggest mystery to me on this team.  I am baffled. I cannot even come up with a concept as to what has happened to him.

An offseason injury we didn't know about that he is playing through MIGHT explain things, but the team has stated a few times there is nothing to that at all.

One thing is for sure. He IS avoiding the front of the net unlike anyone else on this team, unlike anyone else in the league probabably, and unlike he has in his first couple of years.

I know I just posted this a few days ago in this very thread but...

-compared to other Sabres wingers on how much they are going to the front of the net and getting shots off from there this year:  Benson has 23 high danger shots(46.9% of his shots). Peterka has 18 (24.7%). Tuch has 22 (26.8%), Zucker has 30 (44.8%).  Quinn? Quinn has 1 (1.8%)

-There is probably not a more 'perimeter' top 6/top9 forward in the league now than Quinn. Even Olofsson has 15% of his shots from those areas in front of the net for Vegas this year, and 18% last year for the Sabres.

I just have zero clue, zero way to even explain the above. It has to be related to his lack of production, but why is he almost refusing to go to the front of the net anymore and all of a sudden?

Good question.

Fear, my guess.

Posted
15 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

After scoring 4 goals in 5 games to appear to 'come out' of whatever slump he was in (and took 13 shots on goal in those 5 games), Quinn now hasn't even had a single shot on net in his last 3 games despite 15+ minutes of ice time in each of them and time on the first power play unit.

I really am struggling to figure him out.

He had some super nice passes and was really good on the PP. How many assists has he had in those three games? 

Quinn on the wall on the PP might just be the thing that gets the PP moving in right direction. 

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Anyone notice Peterka getting less ice lately?  
 

Ruff did not use Peterka, Quinn, Benson, Krebs and Lafferty for much of the 3rd period versus Colorado.  Kind of hard to win in Colorado’s thin air when half your forwards are benched.  

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8 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Anyone notice Peterka getting less ice lately?  
 

Ruff did not use Peterka, Quinn, Benson, Krebs and Lafferty for much of the 3rd period versus Colorado.  Kind of hard to win in Colorado’s thin air when half your forwards are benched.  

Benson seems to have games where he gets 2nd line minutes (16+ minutes per game), and other games where he is 12 or under...or under 10 like he did in Colorado.

I wonder why.  Yeah, he is young, and Ruff has spoken highly about him, but I wonder if there are just times where he is making bad plays, not being in proper position to allow for him having frequent games with lower ice time.

Its a small sample size, but he is 3rd on the entire team in even strength goals per 60.  Tage is WAY out in front of everyone, but after him, Benson is right there with anyone else on the team in terms of scoring per minutes of ice time.

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