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[TRIP65]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

There is no question that a new GM needs Terry to move to the background.  Maybe Ruff has enough pull with Terry to ask him to take a step back.  Maybe Karmanis and Ruff can team up in the short-term to try to fix some things sooner than later and hopefully Terry sells the team this spring and thus allows a fresh look.

Golisano ring any bells, Reigers. Ownership isn't the issue!

[EM88]

1 minute ago, TRIP65 said:

Got to be a way to Package Cozens, Krebs, 1st round pick and say a Rosen for a Top Center. Throw in Quinn too. Got to be Teams low with picks that have 30 year old Center and could use talented young players that need 1-2 years more Development on Top AHL lines or Bottom 6 NHL lines. Quinn needs Development and recovery from 2 Injuries (he some day will be great)

The above would be nice, but it isn't getting much in return.  Cozens with what a team has to pay him has very little trade value.  Krebs is basically a journeyman or borderline NHL/AHL player so he has little value.  Rosen might be a good middle six winger in the future, but he isn't now and that isn't a guarantee so he has little value.  So to other teams, all 3 of those have little to no value (the $7m per year that comes with Cozens may be a negative to other teams.  So you are saying give a 1st rounder and a few things of little to no value for a top center?  No one is going to do that, especially when you consider how little cap space most of the NHL has and how they simply get Cozens to fit under the cap.

[LabattBlue]

5 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Ownership isn't the issue!

Did you type this without laughing uncontrollably??

[TRIP65]

1 hour ago, SwampD said:

His behavior in that press conference was absolutely ridiculous and enough to get himself fired, if you ask me. In fact, it explained a lot. His behavior was exactly like the player’s behavior during the no salute fiasco, childish and defensive, and blaming everyone else. This truly is his team and it shows.

Nothing changes until Terry sells.

We’re totally screwed.

Adams behavior is due to the Fact Ruff is calling out his Players as being part of the issue. Quinn is Benched. Calls out scoring, pass plays and consistent effort. Ruff doesn't have to directly say Top 6 isn't good enough as is. Always praising the Bottom 6 and the 1-2 year players effort. Loves Benson.

Adams is feeling the HEAT finally, has a very short LEASH with Ruff before he is in Pegula's office. I can see a,  "it is HIM OR ME" scenario!

 

Ruff really doesn't need this if this team is that far from the Playoffs. Stick around if they make it but this kind of Hockey SUCKS. Too up and down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

Not that I expect or want it now, but when was the last time Terry was interviewed and or had a press conference as Sabres owner?

Ruff's Hire

[TRIP65]

57 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Players that should be gone: Cozens, Quinn, Muel, Power

Players of concern: Dahlin, Clifton, Joker, Levi???

Consistent Performers: Entire third/fourth lines, Byram, Gilbert, UPL, Reimer

Literal and figurative hit or miss, Tuch, TT, Peterka, Bryson

Levi has done nothing wrong that Adams hasn't SCREWED UP. He is was great last 7 games two years ago. Last year he played hurt early, went too Rochester and played GREAT. The few call ups he had Levi we very Good, he is 22 years old with GREAT Pedigree and Performances for someone 21-22 playing in the NHL

[SwampD]

7 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Adams behavior is due to the Fact Ruff is calling out his Players as being part of the issue. Quinn is Benched. Calls out scoring, pass plays and consistent effort. Ruff doesn't have to directly say Top 6 isn't good enough as is. Always praising the Bottom 6 and the 1-2 year players effort. Loves Benson.

Adams is feeling the HEAT finally, has a very short LEASH with Ruff before he is in Pegula's office. I can see a,  "it is HIM OR ME" scenario!

 

Ruff really doesn't need this if this team is that far from the Playoffs. Stick around if they make it but this kind of Hockey SUCKS. Too up and down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I honestly have no idea how to respond to your posts. Are you saying Ruff is the problem?

Our top six is absolutely not good enough. I can’t think of a single player on the team except for maybe JJP who drives play. They all get the puck and float to see what will open up, instead of making something open up.

Ownership is absolutely the problem.

Edited December 7 by SwampD

[TRIP65]

1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Players that should be gone: Cozens, Quinn, Muel, Power

Players of concern: Dahlin, Clifton, Joker, Levi???

Consistent Performers: Entire third/fourth lines, Byram, Gilbert, UPL, Reimer

Literal and figurative hit or miss, Tuch, TT, Peterka, Bryson

Also Powers is 20 or 21, not his fault either and up in Top of League for offense defensemen

[Billznut]

2 hours ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

Let's find the meanest Dan Campbell look alike NHL coach to put behind the bench, someone that will scare the puberty out of half these guys. 

They could have hired Craig Berube instead of Ruff. 

[TRIP65]

52 minutes ago, COSabreFan said:

I’m not 100% sure Sabres survive in Buffalo.  Ownership, management, players and arena are all a complete mess.  The only way out is a sale and not sure that goes to someone who keeps team in Buffalo with everything that would entail.

Is the best thing going for Sabres the Hot Dog of the game?

Maybe Pegula should have sold Bills year 16 of the Playoff drought???  Oh wait, Bills had Bills Mafia boosting the Bills Play. Sabres have a crying fanbase of semi losers compared to Bills Mafia!!!!!!

 

Seriously, YOU ARE NOT A FAN OF THE SABRES IF YOU CALLING FOR THE SALE OF YOUR TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[TRIP65]

6 minutes ago, SwampD said:

I honestly have no idea how to respond to your posts. Are you saying Ruff is the problem?

Our top six is absolutely not good enough. I can’t think of a single player on the team except for maybe JJP who drives play. They all get the puck and float to see what will open up, instead of making something open up.

Ownership is absolutely the problem.

Try READING

[Mr Peabody]

It’s pretty simple.  KA pushed his chips in betting on the second line.  

[TRIP65]

17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Did you type this without laughing uncontrollably??

What have you ever done in your life????

 

Pegula bought failing Franchises and one good one, The Bandits! Paid roughly 1.6 Billion in money. They are now worth over 3 Billion!!!!!!!!!!!! Got Bills a new $2 Billion Stadium being built here in Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Turned Bills into Perennial Playoff Contenders. Got us probably the most gifted QB ever to play the game!!!!!!!!!!!!  He paid him as such too.

Kept the Bandits Winners and Champions.

Made Amerks one of the Top 5 AHL teams every year and a Very good source of qualified AHLers. Noted as Top most talented AHL Team

His daughter, not super athletic, got the best training from her Dad that money can buy and is Top 5 in Woman's Tennis

 

How about you?

[SwampD]

9 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Try READING

Try making a point.

[bunomatic]

16 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Also Powers is 20 or 21, not his fault either and up in Top of League for offense defensemen

Who can’t play defence

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, TRIP65 said:

What have you ever done in your life????

 

Pegula bought failing Franchises and one good one, The Bandits! Paid roughly 1.6 Billion in money. They are now worth over 3 Billion!!!!!!!!!!!! Got Bills a new $2 Billion Stadium being built here in Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Turned Bills into Perennial Playoff Contenders. Got us probably the most gifted QB ever to play the game!!!!!!!!!!!!  He paid him as such too.

Kept the Bandits Winners and Champions.

Made Amerks one of the Top 5 AHL teams every year and a Very good source of qualified AHLers. Noted as Top most talented AHL Team

His daughter, not super athletic, got the best training from her Dad that money can buy and is Top 5 in Woman's Tennis

 

How about you?

What does any of this have to do with him being a really ***** owner of the Sabres?

[TRIP65]

32 minutes ago, EM88 said:

The above would be nice, but it isn't getting much in return.  Cozens with what a team has to pay him has very little trade value.  Krebs is basically a journeyman or borderline NHL/AHL player so he has little value.  Rosen might be a good middle six winger in the future, but he isn't now and that isn't a guarantee so he has little value.  So to other teams, all 3 of those have little to no value (the $7m per year that comes with Cozens may be a negative to other teams.  So you are saying give a 1st rounder and a few things of little to no value for a top center?  No one is going to do that, especially when you consider how little cap space most of the NHL has and how they simply get Cozens to fit under the cap.

Scoring WIngers with 30 Goals are now paid $10mil plus. Cozens has been there. 30 year old Centers don't usually bring in high 1st round picks yet alone talent based 1st rounders in 3 players. Rosen is one of Rochester's best scorers and of age now to prove he is a NHL. Those don't come cheap!!!!!!!

 

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Waive Krebs and watch how fast a Team like The bruins grabs a Cheap player with term and makes him eventually a Top 6 player.

The Sabres are the Problem developing AHLers too Early as a NHL player cause they are scared to trade some for Top Talent.

Gave up Savoy for McLeod, how is that trade value going?????

[Stoner]

5 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

What have you ever done in your life????

 

Pegula bought failing Franchises and one good one, The Bandits! Paid roughly 1.6 Billion in money. They are now worth over 3 Billion!!!!!!!!!!!! Got Bills a new $2 Billion Stadium being built here in Buffalo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Turned Bills into Perennial Playoff Contenders. Got us probably the most gifted QB ever to play the game!!!!!!!!!!!!  He paid him as such too.

Kept the Bandits Winners and Champions.

Made Amerks one of the Top 5 AHL teams every year and a Very good source of qualified AHLers. Noted as Top most talented AHL Team

His daughter, not super athletic, got the best training from her Dad that money can buy and is Top 5 in Woman's Tennis

 

How about you?

Got the stadium built is right. And the Sabres were not a failing franchise when he bought it. It sure is now.

I don't care about the rest.

[mjd1001]

2 minutes ago, SwampD said:

What does any of this have to do with him being a really ***** owner of the Sabres?

Agreed. When he bought the Sabres he didn't even know anything about the Bandits other than they existed, by his own words.  I don't think there has ever been a public sighting or account of him at a bandits game and sitting next to/talking to leadership of them. 

As for the bills, there are many more layers of management and complexity between him and the roster.

If anything, brining up the Bills and Bandits with regard to the Sabres further illustrates that his involvement into the roster and his communication with managment....well, the amount of input he has that way is directly related to the lack of success of a franchise he owns.

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, mjd1001 said:

Agreed. When he bought the Sabres he didn't even know anything about the Bandits other than they existed, by his own words.  I don't think there has ever been a public sighting or account of him at a bandits game and sitting next to/talking to leadership of them. 

As for the bills, there are many more layers of management and complexity between him and the roster.

If anything, brining up the Bills and Bandits with regard to the Sabres further illustrates that his involvement into the roster and his communication with managment....well, the amount of input he has that way is directly related to the lack of success of a franchise he owns.

Yep. It’s hilarious that he used that as his example. TPegs didn’t even know he bought them as part of the sale until afterwards. 

[TRIP65]

53 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I had already written off Krebs last year and mentally I am OK with him this year because he is playing slightly better than my super low expections. 

Cozens is this regime/Adams/Pegula's biggest mistake.

What is he and what is he worth? He should be a 3rd line winger. He should be getting paid in the $3.5m dollar range. He should not be on the Power play at all.  He should not have an "A".  He should be regarded as a player that when he makes dumb mistakes, and he makes a LOT Of them, that he isn't so important that he can't be benched.  With little to no power play time and with the 3rd line winger minutes he would likely be a 12-15 goal per year guy.

If when you signed him that to that deal, if he didn't want it, then you should have traded him or let someone else offer sheet him.  I know, hindsight....etc.  You game him the $7m per year. The problem now is you are compounding that mistake by giving him the minutes, the PP time, the center position and the "A", none of which he earns with his play...but rather 'earns' it by the mistake of a contract you offered him and he signed.

Cozens is a 1st round pick with 30 goal season and almost made playoffs that season. Since Sabres are tumbling backwards. Can't afford to Develop players in the NHL right now. We need Consistency. There are a lot of teams that would LOVE to give Cozens a chance to win games in OT, which he use to do, get 30 goals again for $7mil a yr locked up where 30 goal scorers are $10mil plus and climbing. Unfortunately for the Sabres they can't wait with 13 years and climbing with no Playoffs! By the way he is also a young physical freak!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't grow on trees. Sabres have 2-3 of them.

[TRIP65]

13 minutes ago, bunomatic said:

Who can’t play defence

Bet he can spell it!

 

Offer him up for a Trade, 2- 1st round picks and see how quick he is GONE

[bunomatic]

Just now, TRIP65 said:

Bet he can spell it!

 

Offer him up for a Trade, 2- 1st round picks and see how quick he is GONE

Ok mr spellcheck, I’ll get right on that.lol

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, SABRES 0311 said:

Players that should be gone: Cozens, Quinn, Muel, Power

Players of concern: Dahlin, Clifton, Joker, Levi???

Consistent Performers: Entire third/fourth lines, Byram, Gilbert, UPL, Reimer

Literal and figurative hit or miss, Tuch, TT, Peterka, Bryson

So rebuild. Maybe we can tank? <ducks>

[mjd1001]

3 minutes ago, TRIP65 said:

Cozens is a 1st round pick with 30 goal season and almost made playoffs that season. Since Sabres are tumbling backwards. Can't afford to Develop players in the NHL right now. We need Consistency. There are a lot of teams that would LOVE to give Cozens a chance to win games in OT, which he use to do, get 30 goals again for $7mil a yr locked up where 30 goal scorers are $10mil plus and climbing. Unfortunately for the Sabres they can't wait with 13 years and climbing with no Playoffs! By the way he is also a young physical freak!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They don't grow on trees. Sabres have 2-3 of them.

If you could get something of value for Cozens I would be all for it.

I just don't think someone that is on his 2nd season away from that 30 goal season, and makes as many mistakes as he does (he is the worst positional player at forward I have ever seen) and that 30 goal year was obviously an outlier in that he shot almost 15% to do it (his other seasons shooting were 6.5%, 8.1%, 9.2% 9.0%, 8.3%).

Maybe you are right and I'm not, but I just don't think other teams will look at him and say "Lets give you a top center and have the centerpiece of the return you give s being a guy who most of his career is 'high teens' goal scorer who is awful defensively and usually shoots in the single digits for his career, but we are hope he will turn into what he was for one single season and has shown zero signs of doing it for almost a full year and a half after. Oh, and we are going to allocate $7m of cap space to him.

[TRIP65]

14 minutes ago, SwampD said:

What does any of this have to do with him being a really ***** owner of the Sabres?

HE BOUGHT IT FOR $150 Mil and he doesn't have to sell it. His Ownership of Multiple Teams with success proves he can hire the RIGHT people. As far as the Sabres go, a lot of people that leave the Sabres have been good somewhere else so the Sabres do somethings right.

You need LUCK when your losing. Bills hired a few Dudes like Ryan, Malarchuck, Few very strange GM's. With the Talent in the Amerks and the Right GM with Ruff, NOT far from becoming the Bills loaded with Talent for 10 years

Don't LIKE THEM, STOP WATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!