Sabres announce Kevyn Adams will have media availability at 11:30 tomorrow

[SwampD]

4 hours ago, Scottysabres said:

If Pegula sold the Sabres and the team was relocated the Bills would suffer immensely. The fan bases overlap heavily, this is a small market. Pegula would become the most despised person in Buffalo history.

I really don't think one has anything to do with the other. To most people, the Bills are the Bills and the Sabres are the Sabres.

[ska-T Palmtown]

4 hours ago, JP51 said:

It isnt currently, but you look no farther that the Bills to know that location isnt the show stopper in FA and Trade no clause... its incompetence... Free Agents will clearly and have clearly given the Bills and Chiefs breaks to come here to win... they dont do that for the Jets build a winner and they wont have an issue. 

I know it was a few years ago, but still nearly a decade into the drought, they signed Hall. We can all roll our eye and laugh now - but at the time, Hall was one season removed from being MVP and was the free agent that year. So "not a destination" does not cut it with me.

2 hours ago, SabresVet said:

It took a few years before the Bills became a destination for UFAs, but that began with being bold.  Taking Josh Allen represented a huge risk for McBeane and Buffalo, but they knew you gotta have a franchise QB.  That said, player talent pipelines are different in the NHL.  

I'd challenge this, too. The Bills signed Mario Williams, at the time The premier defensive end in the NFL, during free agency. This was more than 10 years into the drought. Hyde and Poyer, although not all-pros yet, both signed before JA was JA.

Players will sign in Buffalo ... for the right money. Especially hockey players - most do NOT come from some big city, they are small town guys. Buffalo, the City, has a great reputation if your name in not Travis Henry or Evander Kane ...

The Sabres franchise is not a FA destination. Hell, most of the players grew up at a higher latitude than Buffalo. And heck - Buffalo is not even that cold! All BS lies by KA and it makes me MAD.

[Cityo'Rasmii]

Everything is great at the country club. We are committed to business as usual.

Would you like a pre-practice espresso?

[Stads]

I would have loved if Pegula, after listening to a good portion of this nonsense, grabs the mike, and said, "Well that sucked. I'd like to announce the firing of Kevyn Adams. This guy is the worst, right?"

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, ska-T Chitown said:

I know it was a few years ago, but still nearly a decade into the drought, they signed Hall. We can all roll our eye and laugh now - but at the time, Hall was one season removed from being MVP and was the free agent that year. So "not a destination" does not cut it with me.

I'd challenge this, too. The Bills signed Mario Williams, at the time The premier defensive end in the NFL, during free agency. This was more than 10 years into the drought. Hyde and Poyer, although not all-pros yet, both signed before JA was JA.

Players will sign in Buffalo ... for the right money. Especially hockey players - most do NOT come from some big city, they are small town guys. Buffalo, the City, has a great reputation if your name in not Travis Henry or Evander Kane ...

The Sabres franchise is not a FA destination. Hell, most of the players grew up at a higher latitude than Buffalo. And heck - Buffalo is not even that cold! All BS lies by KA and it makes me MAD.

The weather doesn't keep them away, it's the clueless loser franchise that keeps them away. That's real, and it just gets worse and worse. Players talk to each other. You think Eichel and Reinhart and Ullmark and ROR etc etc. are saying nice things about Buffalo to their friends? Hell E Rod probably slags them. 

[GoPuckYourself]

I can't believe Adams said "We don't want to make a trade just to make a trade and block the future". Dude what future? So far his best draft pick is JJ Peterka and was gifted Zach Benson. Drafted Jack Quinn 8th overall 2020, Owen Power 1st- Isaak Rosen 14th in 2021, Matthew Savoie 9th- Noah Östlund 16th- Jiri Kulich 28th. Savoie is no longer with us, Quinn has been a monumental bust this year, Power is still struggling mightily defensively, Will Rosen ever make this team? I really like the prospects of Kulich, Östlund, Helenius and Novikov, not all of them will pan out is my guess and my gripe that I consistantly have with this team is that we can clearly see Quinn, Jokiharju and Power weighing this team down in some way, shape or form. I get not benching our 8M a year defensemen but there is no excuse parading Quinn and Jokiharju out there night after night. Let's see what we have in Rosen, bring back Ryan Johnson or give Novikov a shot but just hoping one of their games magically come back to life is beyond stupidity and I'll be perfectly honest I thought Ruff would have addressed these issues but he had accountability issues in New Jersey which I was weary of when we signed him.

[bunomatic]

Don’t want to block the kids Kevin? Not even if it means winning and making the playoffs. You are a moron. Your master plan of fielding a team of kids at the expense of winning is bizarro hockey 101. Get outta town clown.

Edited December 7 by bunomatic

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[kas23]

I’m not an NHL GM, nor do I play one on TV. Isn’t it known by now how to build a competitive team? Is it youth, a “generational” talent, defense, vets, what? In the NFL is easy to identify how to build a contender, yet harder to do. You need a great QB with weapons for him and an above average defense. A tried and true formula that works many more times than it doesn’t. So, why is it not clearly known how to build an NHL team? Isn’t there a clear history of how great teams are made? I feel KA is making this up as he goes. 

[Carmel Corn]

I wish somebody would have asked Howdy Doody to assign himself a grade for his performance as GM.  Any of us would give him a D or an F, but he would probably give himself a C or B.  Pegula might give him a B or even an A for being the teacher’s pet.  

[bunomatic]

11 minutes ago, kas23 said:

I’m not an NHL GM, nor do I play one on TV. Isn’t it known by now how to build a competitive team? Is it youth, a “generational” talent, defense, vets, what? In the NFL is easy to identify how to build a contender, yet harder to do. You need a great QB with weapons for him and an above average defense. A tried and true formula that works many more times than it doesn’t. So, why is it not clearly known how to build an NHL team? Isn’t there a clear history of how great teams are made? I feel KA is making this up as he goes. 

Kevins too smart to look to teams that have had success. The formula is right there for anyone to follow. Yet Kevin follows the plan in his head that hasn’t made the playoffs nevermind win the cup. He treads water year after year with not a modicum of success yet is so sure that he is onto something brilliant. All those other gm’s will catch up one day. Yeah you’re a real trailblazer Kevin. 

[Slack_in_MA]

Just watched the presser. Dead man walking. Ought to be anyway. The arrogant snark in his tone was troublesome. He says he knows what it takes to build a Cup champion. Maybe so, but he clearly doesn’t know how to translate it into action.

[Sidc3000]

He came into this presser with anger and was confrontational during the whole thing. I can’t believe some of his answers. Wow

 

His attitude makes me feel that he’s tired of  explaining it to the media or fans. Everyone just needs to accept it then sit down and shut up.

 

 I’m done with this team for now. I’m tired of waiting for the Sabres to get better. If, for some reason, they actually make the playoffs I’ll eat crow. 

Edited December 7 by Sidc3000

[Broken Ankles]

8 hours ago, Scottysabres said:

If Pegula sold the Sabres and the team was relocated the Bills would suffer immensely. The fan bases overlap heavily, this is a small market. Pegula would become the most despised person in Buffalo history.

The overlap is small.  The Sabres average share for viewership on MSG is around 4 or 4% of the local market.  Conversely the Bills/KC game (maybe an anomaly) had an 82 point rating.  The Bills viewership dwarfs the Sabres.  I have a feeling the average Bills fan that knows little of Terry’s meddling with the Sabres probably have a somewhat neutral view about the Pegulas as owners. Where as we have disdain they have ambivalence.  

[SwampD]

3 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

The overlap is small.  The Sabres average share for viewership on MSG is around 4 or 4% of the local market.  Conversely the Bills/KC game (maybe an anomaly) had an 82 point rating.  The Bills viewership dwarfs the Sabres.  I have a feeling the average Bills fan that knows little of Terry’s meddling with the Sabres probably have a somewhat neutral view about the Pegulas as owners. Where as we have disdain they have ambivalence.  

I bet they Love Terry!

[JP51]

39 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:

Just watched the presser. Dead man walking. Ought to be anyway. The arrogant snark in his tone was troublesome. He says he knows what it takes to build a Cup champion. Maybe so, but he clearly doesn’t know how to translate it into action.

Yes he knows how to build a cup champion... as in jock strap 

[Broken Ankles]

At one point during the press conference, Adams alluded to the fact that there was a possible trade this summer that was not consummated.  The interesting part of that was his follow up comment that either the media or the fans would have construed the trade as Adam’s getting “roasted”.   Why would he bring this up?  In one sense it only confirms that his evaluation of his own players are significantly higher than that of his peers, right? Because even though he was getting f$@ked, the other GM didn’t make the trade. 
 

  What was that trade?  

[Carmel Corn]

44 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:

Just watched the presser. Dead man walking. Ought to be anyway. The arrogant snark in his tone was troublesome. He says he knows what it takes to build a Cup champion. Maybe so, but he clearly doesn’t know how to translate it into action.

I found his comment about knowing what it takes to be one of the most hilarious things he said.  Playoff hockey success requires a number of things, but one of them is having a team that plays with intensity, strong defense and being physical.  GMKA’s Sabres have none of this.  He is either stupid or delusional….or both!

[sabremike]

How hard do you think execs, coaches and players were laughing watching that shitshow? If you were a player would you want to come to an organization run by a ridiculous clown like Adams? Would you see the Sabres as a serious organization?

[Second Line Center]

Thought the most outlandish thing he said was “I’d go to war with all these guys in the room” literally 1 minute after saying he almost had a deal in place with a team….it didn’t happen….you guys would have been screaming I would have overpaid.  
 

So someone he was willing to go to war with was on his way out in a deal. 
 

Just taking that further.  Was it Quinn in the deal?  Is that why he looks lost - like the GM who claims he’d go to war with all these guys was ready to trade one or more of them and he heard it may have been him in a deal?  Is he dejected?  Mad?  Idk.  Anyway…

 

It’s just revealing.  Like do you even believe the nonsense about all these young guys we need to have “sustained success” after more and more “conversations.”  
 

He likes having conversations.  There are a lot of them.  
 

This organization needs a hockey alpha badly.  We’re soft.  It starts with the GM. 

Edited December 7 by Second Line Center

[thewookie1]

55 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

At one point during the press conference, Adams alluded to the fact that there was a possible trade this summer that was not consummated.  The interesting part of that was his follow up comment that either the media or the fans would have construed the trade as Adam’s getting “roasted”.   Why would he bring this up?  In one sense it only confirms that his evaluation of his own players are significantly higher than that of his peers, right? Because even though he was getting f$@ked, the other GM didn’t make the trade. 
 

  What was that trade?  

It's thought to either have been for Necas or Ehlers however one of them refused to sign/extend here

[GoPuckYourself]

34 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

It's thought to either have been for Necas or Ehlers however one of them refused to sign/extend here

Necas I believe used us for leverage to sign in Carolina but I read somewhere Ehlers was onboard but wanted a long term deal. I guess Adams didn't want to block the future here and would rather keep losing.

[Broken Ankles]

6 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

Necas I believe used us for leverage to sign in Carolina but I read somewhere Ehlers was onboard but wanted a long term deal. I guess Adams didn't want to block the future here and would rather keep losing.

Necas is having a year. I wonder what KA’s overpayment proposal was.  If that was the one. 

[K012010]

1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:

I found his comment about knowing what it takes to be one of the most hilarious things he said.  Playoff hockey success requires a number of things, but one of them is having a team that plays with intensity, strong defense and being physical.  GMKA’s Sabres have none of this.  He is either stupid or delusional….or both!

He’s referring to his time on the Hurricanes as a player I’m guessing. Odd how the makeup of the Sabres teams he’s created don’t really reflect that cup champion roster that Canes team had. 

[GoPuckYourself]

49 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said:

Necas is having a year. I wonder what KA’s overpayment proposal was.  If that was the one. 

It had to have been and I bet it would have had to been a massive overpay for him to come here, he only got a 2 year 13M contract from Carolina so either Adams is lying again or just didn't want him bad enough.