Sabres announce Kevyn Adams will have media availability at 11:30 tomorrow

[GASabresIUFAN]

8 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

This is a nice dream but do you really think Terry would give him a farewell presser? I don't see that happening, even for a loyalist.

It’s Xmas a time for miracles

[DarthEbriate]

32 minutes ago, sabremike said:

Do we drink when it happens? Because then I say no. Choose life.

[PerreaultForever]

4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Karmanos as gm...I have a question:  How would things be different?

We have heard over and over that decisions on roster and players are not made by one person, but are more of a 'group think' exercise.  Its like a bunch of guys sit around the table, and its more of a consensus with one or two dissenting opions.

Now, Adams has said that is how it works. Pegula I think has said it. We have video of the 'behind the scenes' over the last few years on draft day and preparing for the draft that SHOWS us that is how it works.

So, if Adams is fired, wouldn't Pegula probably have the room 'without Adams' as gm operate the same way?  Even if he didn't, was Karmanos part of the decision making group that was making the decisions that got us here?  And finally, if Adams is 'bumped up' to a different position but is still in that room....wouldn't the ONLY 2 things that change would be who picks up the phone to make the final phone calls and the title on the nameplate on the desk or door?

I suspect the group dynamic is more like the mob. TP is the godfather sitting there eating his prosciutto, Adams is the underboss handling the day to day affairs, Forton is head capo and Karmanos is consigliere. 

[DarthEbriate]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

It’s Xmas a time for miracles

Cue Beethoven's Symphony No.9

[Thorner]

23 minutes ago, Two or less said:

I agree- minus the word "promotion". Don't think they'll be saying that tomorrow.

It makes no sense for Adams to make a conference with media before a practice on a Friday to discuss that the team sucks. They hired Lindy to do that and he actually does a pretty solid job of detailing issues in their games and how they will improve.

Im guessing he'll say hes stepping down, Karmanos will take over in the meantime, he'll stay on as advisor for Pegula's and to help out and the "promotion" text will come in a few months that Adams no longer just helping out but taking up a promoted higher management role.

This seems right 

[EM88]

14 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Karmanos as gm...I have a question:  How would things be different?

We have heard over and over that decisions on roster and players are not made by one person, but are more of a 'group think' exercise.  Its like a bunch of guys sit around the table, and its more of a consensus with one or two dissenting opions.

Now, Adams has said that is how it works. Pegula I think has said it. We have video of the 'behind the scenes' over the last few years on draft day and preparing for the draft that SHOWS us that is how it works with this team. As much as Adams may or may not be the problem wouldn't you need to change the process, how this team makes roster decisions, before any GM change can really mean much?

So, if Adams is fired, wouldn't Pegula probably have the room 'without Adams' as gm operate the same way?  Even if he didn't, was Karmanos part of the decision making group that was making the decisions that got us here?  And finally, if Adams is 'bumped up' to a different position but is still in that room....wouldn't the ONLY 2 things that change would be who picks up the phone to make the final phone calls and the title on the nameplate on the desk or door?

 

I know people want Adams gone, but how are things any different unless Adams is TOTALLY out of the organization, AND most or all of that entire decision making group (including Karmaos) are gone, AND Pegula declares the new guy has autonomy and the old way of 'consensus making' is done in his building?

The villages have determined Adams is a witch and they wanted to see someone hung or burned at the stake.

We don't need no lawyer like diversions and question to slow down what the villagers want.

[Thorner]

Nm

[mjd1001]

There is a difference, USUALLY, between "media availability" and a "press conference".

I take media availability as someone will be there ready to take questions.

A "press conference" is where you are going to announce something.

Maybe the Sabres aren't that formal with their definition of things though?

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Nm

So the gutless Sabres didn't voluntarily want to address the media and fans after the terrible collapse, but instead were forced into it by the media.  Nice!  

[Thorner]

8 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

There is a difference, USUALLY, between "media availability" and a "press conference".

I take media availability as someone will be there ready to take questions.

A "press conference" is where you are going to announce something.

Maybe the Sabres aren't that formal with their definition of things though?

It’s over. It’s merely a gesture upon repeated request 

5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

So the gutless Sabres didn't voluntarily want to address the media and fans after the terrible collapse, but instead were forced into it by the media.  Nice!  

Adams will even be slightly defensive if we win today lol 

that’ll give him the ammo to scoff 

Edited December 5 by Thorner

[LTS]

Tomorrow is fantastic Friday... this media availability will NOT meet the criteria to be mentioned in that  thread.

Now, if they had had media availability today it would have perfectly fit on Complaint Thursday.

I guess we'll just need a separate thread to discuss everything that isn't said tomorrow.

[pi2000]

Let me save you some time...

"We've seen some growth and flashes of what type of team we're trying to be.   We're much closer than we were a year ago.   We've set forth the goal, now we just need to find that consistency in our game... blah blah blah young team blah blah blah Lindy this Lindy that... it takes time with a new coach but I truly believe they're starting to understand and we're not as far away as some may think based on our record.... still have tremendous trust in Lindy and his staff... blah blah"   

[sabresouth]

Ok, for all those saying that Adams is a "yes" man to Pagula. Is this the case on the bills side? Just asking, I don't follow the bills that much. I watch a few games a year, but can't even say who the bills gm is. It would seem logical that Pagula would want the same type gm for both teams. If he is wanting "yes" men, then why is it not a problem on the bills side. They are doing great. Personally I don't think this is the issue. I believe that ka is just a terrible gm. Thoughts...

[gomper]

Most of us remember a time when a scheduled GM press conference/media availability held tremendous weight and anticipation. 

If it doesn't include talk of selling the team, which it won't, I couldn't care less.

Edited December 5 by gomper

[pi2000]

7 minutes ago, sabresouth said:

Ok, for all those saying that Adams is a "yes" man to Pagula. Is this the case on the bills side? Just asking, I don't follow the bills that much. I watch a few games a year, but can't even say who the bills gm is. It would seem logical that Pagula would want the same type gm for both teams. If he is wanting "yes" men, then why is it not a problem on the bills side. They are doing great. Personally I don't think this is the issue. I believe that ka is just a terrible gm. Thoughts...

The Bills are a great franchise in spite of Terry.

The Sabres are a lousy franchise directly because of Terry. 

[mjd1001]

17 minutes ago, sabresouth said:

Ok, for all those saying that Adams is a "yes" man to Pagula. Is this the case on the bills side? Just asking, I don't follow the bills that much. I watch a few games a year, but can't even say who the bills gm is. It would seem logical that Pagula would want the same type gm for both teams. If he is wanting "yes" men, then why is it not a problem on the bills side. They are doing great. Personally I don't think this is the issue. I believe that ka is just a terrible gm. Thoughts...

I, among others, have brought this up in great depth in other posts over the last few weeks. To give a very, very quick summary of what I have written:

-The Sabres roster and coaching staff (entire operation) is smaller than the Bills. There is less 'separation' between him and the team, therefore much more easy to get involved in a short bursts.

-Pegula has admitted he thinks he knows more about hockey than football. Upon taking over the Sabres, he wanted to be actively involved in selecting players, roster construction, etc. The Ville Leino, Erhoff contracts are one example.  Also it may have been partly a covid/business side of things, or a player input, but we also know, with quotes from the Pegula's themselves, they fired Botts because they weren't 'being heard' by him regarding their input.

An example of smoke if not direct 'fire'. Pegula speaks how he admires Cozens game, how he plays.  At the heritage classic, Cozens gets ejected in the third. and ends up watching the game from beside the rink, Pegula walks up to him and talks to him for most of the rest of the game.  Pegula doesn't talk much, but there was a report on Twitter from one of the Sabres beat guys that Pegula singled out in a conversation how much HE liked Dylan Cozens.  A few months later, Cozens gets a $7m contract extension.   Does it PROVE anything?  No, that is 'smoke' as I said and not 'fire' but it still leads some of us to think he has an outsized input into roster and contract discussion.

-With the Bills, he is around, but he seems to be more of a 'fan'. If you watch the videos of him, he is around the players as much as the coaches and management. He is watching practice often from a distance.  With the Sabres, he is frequently next to Adams during games and even practices. We know he frequently attends pre-draft and even draft day meetings and there are witness accounts and some video if him giving his input.  

I think the Bills management has learned how to massage Terry's ego just enough to keep him at a distance and out of every single decision. He seems, for whatever reason, to have more input into the Sabres.

Edited December 5 by mjd1001

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

You can get 8th row seats in the 100s for less than $23 right now.  Prices have been around $25 all day, some 300s seats will get you through the door at $12 a ticket.  
 

This is why there is a press conference tomorrow.  GMKA has to try to convince people to come to the game.

 

[mjd1001]

1 minute ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

You can get 8th row seats in the 100s for less than $23 right now.  Prices have been around $25 all day, some 300s seats will get you through the door at $12 a ticket.  
 

This is why there is a press conference tomorrow.  GMKA has to try to convince people to come to the game.

 

I know they have tried, but how about just getting into, and staying in, a playoff spot the entire season.  They don't need to be fighting for a presidents trophy. Just be in the top 12-14 in the league (yeah, you can even hover in that 10-14 spot) and never more than that...and that would be enough to get people to come to the games.

They can't do it, but it would seem to be SO much easier than the emails to season ticket holders, private events, press conferences...etc.

[Mr Peabody]

Since it’s a press requested interview I expect him to ultimately fall on the sword with a minor flesh wound.  Without naming names he’ll say some players need to elevate their games. 
 

The questions I’d ask are “Sabres came into this season with a heavy reliance on a young core that  is not producing and is overmatched during many games.  Will you do anything differently next year?  Does it altar your philosophy of building primarily via the draft?” 

[inkman]

And that’s all it takes to get this crowd behind you.  

[sabresouth]

As being several states away, I'm not in the loop on a lot of the going ons of the franchise. Thanks for the insights 

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

If this presser is to announce that Kevyn Adams is getting PROMOTED then the issues in this organization go way beyond talent on the ice, HC or any GM that we bring in. On what planet does Adams deserve a promotion at this point?

[Demoted]

Me watching the Sabres lose knowing Adams has to talk to the media tomorrow...

 

[PalmTreeMafia]

This presser is going to be far more entertaining than any Sabres game. Bring your popcorn, folks.

[Carmel Corn]

2 minutes ago, JohnRobertEichel said:

This presser is going to be far more entertaining than any Sabres game. Bring your popcorn, folks.

Sorry, but it’s not going to be anything other than the same old gibberish that we’ve been hearing game after game, season after season.  Expect softball questions and word salad answers.  Nothing to see here….move on!