Sabres announce Kevyn Adams will have media availability at 11:30 tomorrow

[Thorner]

lmao

[Stoner]

Can't use the cap money now to save the future.

[SHAAAUGHT!!!]

GMKA: "I wish you were their agent"

Ridiculous. Basically just admitted you struggle negotiating with agents.  This is not a man negotiating from a position of confidence or strength.  This sucks. 

[Stoner]

So many excuses...

Punch are you spinning in your grave?

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, ASlugAbove said:

Kudos to PHam for asking legit Q's too

Listening to Hamilton talk about this organization over the last few days, you can hear the disdain in his voice over Adams, Pegula, and the lot. He's as peeved about the excuses and inaction as most of the posters on these boards.

[Stoner]

Assistant coaches on tryouts?

That's a winning stance.

[Thorner]

The Sabres finished with 81 points the season before Adams was made GM. We have averaged 76 points a season since. They are pacing for 79 points this year. He’s taken 5 years to get the team from 81 points to 79.

what progress is this utter clown talking about

[Palm Trees And Taxes]

The only thing I will kind of stick up for Adams on with all these no move and no trades everywhere throughout the league it is hard to utilize that cap space the way you truly want to: Adams can want players  Y and Z but if those players won't come here, not much can be done.

And Adams helped create that as well.

But the issue starts at the top with Pegula. And a lack of a top flight executive at the top that can truly help Adams and the rest of the staff.

The Sabres aren't making $ either at the gate, and Terry won't spend what is needed.

The biggest issue here is trading guys like Reinhart when most players usually start to peak at 24, 25 and that is when we have shipped out some of this high end talent like Eichel and Reinhart.

Sadly the Sabres will have to just go with what we have, develop, and hope for the best.

[Stoner]

Oh Lance! Tell me how TP is supportive.

[Thorner]

5 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Can't use the cap money now to save the future.

It should be unanimously agreed that the priority isn’t winning right now 

[JP51]

So basically... We like our team, we need to be better, I am not changing anything we will continue to do what we have always done and shame on you morons for even suggesting that we should change... I know better than you... followed by some trivial nerd numbers that have nothing to do with the only number that matters wins or losses... and pretty much KMA... I didnt think it was possible I could believe that he was more clueless than I thought he was... but everytime I think the depth of his incompetence couldnt sink lower  he speaks he surprises me.  OMFG he needs to go... he is the Mike McDaniel of hockey minus the smarts.

Edited December 6 by JP51

[Weave]

8 minutes ago, Thorner said:

It’s not what the tank has wrought, it’s what the people who made the decision to tank have wrought. The damage of something we did a decade ago would be fixable, if not for the fact the idiocy that employed it is still here 

Fair.  But the “we aren’t a destination “ is coming from the team not fully committed to winning, which is a snowball started down the hill with the word “suffering “.

[Thorner]

3 minutes ago, Weave said:

Fair.  But the “we aren’t a destination “ is coming from the team not fully committed to winning, which is a snowball started down the hill with the word “suffering “.

A huge huge part of it is the fallout with Eichel, too. I don’t care if people don’t want to hear it. It’s time to grow up and admit the obvious 

which goes hand in hand with what you are saying: we TANKED to get this dude. We made the choice to prioritize one player above the team, then had the utter hubris to think we didn’t have to lie in the bed we made after doing wrong by that asset.

they looked like amateur hour idiots 

Edited December 6 by Thorner

[Stoner]

Terry talks to me everyday... he wants to be part of the solution with me.

Why don't I feel better after hearing that?

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, Stoner said:

Terry talks to me everyday... he wants to be part of the solution with me.

Why don't I feel better after hearing that?

Maybe he's actually talking to the ghost of Teri Garr. That would explain a lot...

[ASlugAbove]

3 minutes ago, Thorner said:

A huge huge part of it is the fallout with Eichel, too. I don’t care if people don’t want to hear it. It’s time to grow up and admit the obvious 

which goes hand in hand with what you are saying: we TANKED to get this dude. We made the choice to prioritize one player above the team, then had the utter hubris to think we didn’t have to lie in the bed we made after doing wrong by that asset.

they looked like amateur hour idiots 

I think that this is a HUGE (and maybe even main) reason why no serious FA's or trade pieces give us a serious consideration. You had a star player in the NHL want a surgery, we denied it, he gets traded and gets said surgery and wins a cup the next year. Yeah, stupid decision that sends a message to the players. Nobody respects that.

[Weave]

11 minutes ago, Thorner said:

A huge huge part of it is the fallout with Eichel, too. I don’t care if people don’t want to hear it. It’s time to grow up and admit the obvious 

which goes hand in hand with what you are saying: we TANKED to get this dude. We made the choice to prioritize one player above the team, then had the utter hubris to think we didn’t have to lie in the bed we made after doing wrong by that asset.

they looked like amateur hour idiots 

The “we aren’t a destination” thing predates the Eichel injury mess.  We’ve been overpaying or losing out for more than a decade.  Certainly the Eichel mess hasn’t helped heal that wound at all.

At the end of the day, the team has to demonstrate that they are not only serious about winning, but are capably pulling it off.

And of course we can’t demonstrate the 2nd if we haven’t committed to the first.

[SabresVet]

Message I take from this laughable PC is that self-preservation seems the top priority.  For certain members of the media to retain team access to not ask hard-hitting questions.  And worse, for a GM  not in fear of losing his job despite failing spectacularly.

Weak men go defensive when results aren't produced.  Weak men do not therefore lead NHL organizations, neither at the ownership, GM, or HC levels.  Right now, only the latter is not a weak man.         

 

[Flashsabre]

Any team is a destination when they are winning.  When you haven’t made the playoffs going in 14 years no one wants to jump on that sinking ship.

players and more importantly agents aren’t stupid. They know what a joke Terry and Kevyn are. Kevyn’s only option are players with no trade protection.

They are not a serious franchise. That only changes when Terry decides to step back and bring serious NHL people in to control the team or he sells the team. Until nothing changes. Draft picks mean nothing because they get beaten down by this culture.

[DarthEbriate]

21 minutes ago, Weave said:

Fair.  But the “we aren’t a destination “ is coming from the team not fully committed to winning, which is a snowball started down the hill with the word “suffering “.

It started before that, before even 7/1/07. It began when the cash-strapped organization decided not to negotiate with, and sign, its two best players before the season began, as though their pricetag(s) would somehow be lower if either got to free agency. The removal of two first-line wingers (who play center, too) and your team's heart-and-soul means loss of playoff revenue, lack of guidance for a young core, and the path to needing to suffer in the first place. Trade Afinogenov at his height, get the core together -- and you can probably still match Vanek (or, having both Briere and Drury, go get those 4 #1s).

Later, the commitment to tanking was just another step in the anti-win direction.

20 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Terry talks to me everyday... he wants to be part of the solution with me.

Why don't I feel better after hearing that?

That's the thing about the Sith. Always two there are. No more, no less.

[Stoner]

Feeding at the trough of the vicious circle. That's how a rink manager keeps his job as NHL GM of a perennial loser.

[Johnny Cakes]

Wonder how many more years Kevin Adams will have the title of GM for the Sabres.  5 more years 🤔?

[Pimlach]

I just listened to Adams.  He was worse than I thought he would be. 

His smart aleck responses aside, the guy did not have any substantial comments to make me feel he can make the team better right now.  

He liked to say new coach, new system, only 26 games in, etc.  

Draft and develop is still the plan - he said he understands development is not linear - so why did he hand out NHL jobs and contracts to kids like they are jelly beans at Easter?    He said little about bringing in good vets - and next year Greenway, Zucker and McLeod can leave.   Then what?  - bring up Kozak, Rosen, and Helenious?  Sign a few $700K JAGs?  

Buffalo is not a destination because players know they have no chance of winning.  Kevin wants to point out palm trees and high taxes like the smart aleck that he is.  Then he has the nerve to cite the job the Bills did, yet he refuses to own the drought - that was step 1 for McDermott.

He cannot bring in the right mix of players in part because he wont spend to the cap.  He wont spend to the cap because he always has another group of prospects coming.  His understanding of the cap is mind boggling.  He still believes in the current Core that he locked in.  He said he will "go to battle" with them.  They don't battle Kevyn, and neither do you!  

The discussion on Power was interesting.  Power's poor defensive play was brought up.   Power was on the ice for the opponents GWG in last two games - Adams defended the minutes he plays and he brought up the "good stuff" he does.   If this is the standard, if accepting what ends up to be the GWG is ok because you had an assist in the first period, then we see where the bar is set and we see these kids are coddled.    The excuse of being young can go on for years on end.   

Oh, yes, and he said Pegula provides all the needed resources, of course.   

My take away is simple.  Even if we somehow get the the 8th seed this year, which I don't see happening, the things Adams said make me question the long term viability, which is what he is focused on. 

I just hope he is playing poker and doesn't believe everything he tells the media.    

[DarthEbriate]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

I don’t think he’s toxic. And I don’t think he’s controlling like a Jerry Jones. His just a really bad organizational leader who doesn’t understand that what made him successful before (natural gas) was staying in his lane (geologist).

One note about Jerry Jones: he is not a meddling owner. He is the owner, president, and GM of the Cowboys and has been since right after he purchased the team.

Aside: The only times his teams have ever been "great" are when he had excellent coaches (Jimmy Johnson, Bill Parcells) telling him what they needed AND when he had the benefit of a desperate Vikings GM and that absolutely wild Herschel Walker trade, plus Aikman #1 overall to build upon. The rest of the time, his teams have been buoyed up to "good" by average-to-above-average QB play from the injured-corpse of Aikman, Romo, Prescott. Otherwise, he's just a below-average-to-average level GM who has benefitted from extended periods of ineptitude by NYG and Washington within his own division.

[Thorner]

48 minutes ago, Thorner said:

lmao

I can’t get past this 

we supposedly neglected to spend this year cause we had to save money for the likes of quinn

So they looked at the available new info this year and decided it supported doubling down on the strategy?
 

What?