GDT: Sabres vs Canucks Black Friday 3:00 PM EST MSG-B, SN-Pac, WGR550, SN650

[Believer]

Just listened to Ruff’s postgame comments. 

Our PP was 0-5. It was more than a little bit off, Lindy. Whoever is coaching and designing our PP is failing and needs to be replaced as the PP Coach.

Ruff was asked about players getting to the paint and he implied it rotates and when it’s your turn you have to be there. You can’t miss your turn, he said. Ruff’s scheme stinks, imo. Guys can’t keep track of who’s turn it is apparently, so too often no one goes. 

No urgency in our game. No physicality in our game. Too much wondering about everything, and not enough Wonder and Awe about anything.

 

 

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, SwampD said:

So, Quinn touches the puck before the goal line and the linesmen calls icing. Un(totally)believable.

I'm not a fan of Tage. I think he's a paper tiger and a one trick pony and we'll never win anything with him as our #1 C.

If he doesn't learn from this game, we're screwed. It's the NHL, you can't do the same thing over an over and expect a different result,… you can't even expect the same result, ffs. Defenders learn. They know you are taking the slapper.

He sees the defender sliding to the ice and still fires the puck into him, ending up in a breakaway that ends up in our net. How about pulling up short, going around the floundering guy on the ice, draw a bunch of guys to you, then making a pass to someone wide open. 

0-2 since his return. I know it's been against tougher competition. I don't care.

Still glad we got a point.

I haven't seen the play, but hybrid icing must be a nightmare at times for the linesmen.

[SwampD]

7 minutes ago, Stoner said:

I haven't seen the play, but hybrid icing must be a nightmare at times for the linesmen.

Interesting.

Pretty sure Quinn beat him to the dots as well.

 

[OverPowerYou]

I keep telling myself I don’t care, but then I watch these games and then they play like this. Now that I’m gonna take a few games off, I expect them to go on a three-game win streak. They will suck me back in and then they will lose two in a row again 

[KC Scouts]

We don’t win enough at home, I can’t be serious about any Sabres team until they do. We are still very much pretenders.

[eman]

2 hours ago, #freejame said:

Until this team treats every game like it’s life or death they are going to continue to sputter. Every game needs to be game 7. It doesn’t matter if you’re burned out in the playoffs unless you make the playoffs first. It’s really not asking for much of anything. 

And unfortunately, as of US Thanksgiving, the Sabres (once again) are on the outside looking in to the final playoff slot. Unless they can seriously put something together  by, or after Christmas, the Sports Centre cutoff doesn't look good for these guys. Maybe they can be one of the teams to buck that trend but to be honest, nothing I've seen up until now leads me to believe this is going to happen. They beat teams they weren't supposed to and crap the bed against teams they should beat. NYI on deck and yes, the Sabres should beat them. We'll see soon enough.

[Crusader1969]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Quinn Hughes by far the best player in that OT.  He dominated.  
 

I can’t recall the Sabres getting so little puck possession time in an OT.  We had one chance but mostly they floated.  
 

We get 1 point. I’m disappointed in their play  today.  Not enough effort, no finish. 

Quinn Hughes is made for 3v3 hockey

great to see them make the comeback   Of course getting the 2 points would have been better but overall, not a bad result 

pretty entertaining game overall   I'm not disappointed at all  thought the effort was good    To get 3 vs the Canucks goalie is actually doing something    The guy was doing his best Hasek imitation vs Boston the other night and was excellent again today   
there is a reason his GAA is about 2.5 and Gustavsson is around 2GA/G  

 

 

 

 

[Big Guava]

3 hours ago, #freejame said:

Until this team treats every game like it’s life or death they are going to continue to sputter. Every game needs to be game 7. It doesn’t matter if you’re burned out in the playoffs unless you make the playoffs first. It’s really not asking for much of anything. 

How to say you never played competitive sports in your life without saying you never played competitive sports.

This is simply not possible over an 82 game season.

Edited November 30 by Big Guava

[Crusader1969]

3 hours ago, rickshaw said:

Lindy Ruff should have sat Cozen’s butt on the bench for the rest of the game. Terrible penalties to take.

Maybe  it's a good job he didn't listen to your advice? 

4 hours ago, HILLsabre said:

Realistically, the Sabres don't have a top line...loaded with 2nd and 3rd line played...but not top line material.( Tuch, paterka...really?)

I have a great idea, why not sell off all their pieces to get to last place and then draft a couple of top line players for a couple of years ???

[Flashsabre]

That was a Thanksgiving hangover effort. Tage was completely lost out there today.

They are lucky they got a point out of it.

Lankinen played great.

They desperately need a true playmaker with great offensive IQ for the PP.

Better find their effort tomorrow and come away with a win.

[Stoner]

41 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Interesting.

Pretty sure Quinn beat him to the dots as well.

 

You said Quinn touched the puck above the end line so maybe the linesman deemed that the puck was not going to cross the line.

[Crusader1969]

21 minutes ago, eman said:

And unfortunately, as of US Thanksgiving, the Sabres (once again) are on the outside looking in to the final playoff slot. Unless they can seriously put something together  by, or after Christmas, the Sports Centre cutoff doesn't look good for these guys. Maybe they can be one of the teams to buck that trend but to be honest, nothing I've seen up until now leads me to believe this is going to happen. They beat teams they weren't supposed to and crap the bed against teams they should beat. NYI on deck and yes, the Sabres should beat them. We'll see soon enough.

1 point out of the playoffs, with a game in hand vs the team above you and  it's almost time to give up ? 
 

[CallawaySabres]

Another brutal loss for Boston, too bad so sad 😚

[Archie Lee]

55 minutes ago, eman said:

And unfortunately, as of US Thanksgiving, the Sabres (once again) are on the outside looking in to the final playoff slot. Unless they can seriously put something together  by, or after Christmas, the Sports Centre cutoff doesn't look good for these guys. Maybe they can be one of the teams to buck that trend but to be honest, nothing I've seen up until now leads me to believe this is going to happen. They beat teams they weren't supposed to and crap the bed against teams they should beat. NYI on deck and yes, the Sabres should beat them. We'll see soon enough.

On a near yearly basis there are teams that buck this trend. I certainly wouldn’t predict that the Sabres will, as the only time they have bucked the trend in the last 13 years was 18-19 (wrong direction). But there is a far greater than zero chance that there will be movement in the 6-10 or 7-11 spots through the rest of the season.

[inkman]

[erickompositör72]

2 hours ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

 

My site preferences have also been fixed. Thanks!

Edited November 30 by erickompositör72

[zow2]

3 hours ago, #freejame said:

Until this team treats every game like it’s life or death they are going to continue to sputter. Every game needs to be game 7. It doesn’t matter if you’re burned out in the playoffs unless you make the playoffs first. It’s really not asking for much of anything. 

Yep. i’ve been telling my friends the same for a few seasons now.  This team should be the most desperate club in the NHL, every night, every shift.  It’s complete madness to miss the playoffs for this many years. They should be able to outwork everyone enough to get in.

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, Stoner said:

You said Quinn touched the puck above the end line so maybe the linesman deemed that the puck was not going to cross the line.

Then why call icing?

It was the wrong call. Period.

[PerreaultForever]

I think they didn't play as badly as some others here think. Vancouver plays a shutdown style, especially on the road, and they fought through that and came back to tie. Would have been nice to win in OT but OT is bs anyway. Remember last year we said they didn't get enough loser points, so hey, they got the loser point and that's improvement. 

Is there a way to get Cozens mad before every game? After he got the penalty and got pissed off he was a force, showing once again that he is capable of being a dominant player we just have to figure out how to give him that drive and desire to play hard every game, every shift. idk how to do that, I hope Lindy does. 

Thompson is either playing hurt or is skittish trying to avoid getting hurt again and that's always a recipe for disaster. Let's hope it's just a time issue. 

PP could use a lot of improvement though that's for sure. 

[ska-T Palmtown]

2 hours ago, eman said:

And unfortunately, as of US Thanksgiving, the Sabres (once again) are on the outside looking in to the final playoff slot. Unless they can seriously put something together  by, or after Christmas, the Sports Centre cutoff doesn't look good for these guys. Maybe they can be one of the teams to buck that trend but to be honest, nothing I've seen up until now leads me to believe this is going to happen. They beat teams they weren't supposed to and crap the bed against teams they should beat. NYI on deck and yes, the Sabres should beat them. We'll see soon enough.

Well, US Thanksgiving was yesterday - and by point %, they were in a spot ... so there is that.

And this is from the article ESPN published last year about historical "US Thanksgiving" Standings.

so between 3-5 teams in a spot drop out each year.

Last year in the East, only Detroy-it dropped out and the Aisles hopped in. There's one.

In the West, St. Louis and Seattle were replaced by Eulers and Preds. So, three total - the trend holds. 18% of the Turkey Day teams fell off.

I don't see the data for previous years and I am way too lazy to look, but what is interesting is that all 12 of the top 3 teams in each conference stayed that way, but 3 out of 4 (75%) of Turkey Day WC teams fell out. So ... maybe it is best if we pretend they were not in a WC spot on Turkey Day? lol.

**After actually reading the article, not just looking at the chart - in the time frame covered it was VERY common for division leaders to fall out. 14-15 and 16-17 both saw the top FOUR teams in a top 3 spot in their division all miss! A third of the non-WC teams in a playoff spot on US T-giving missed the playoffs! Wild. (Yes, Buffalo was on of those teams 😞 )

Edited November 30 by ska-T Chitown

[Stoner]

1 hour ago, SwampD said:

Then why call icing?

It was the wrong call. Period.

Finally saw it. I had it all mixed up. It was a bad call but not an easy one to make. The linesman has to make the call when the first player reaches the dot. It was essentially a tie in the race to the dot with Cozens maybe by a nose. Tie to the defender? But Cozens clearly was gaining ground as proven by his reaching the puck first. The other part of the call once the first player reaches the dot is whether the puck will cross the line. I think the linesman was fooled by the direction of the puck.

Bad call yes but not because the linesman failed to see Cozens touching the puck. The call had already been made.

Edited November 30 by Stoner

[SwampD]

15 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Finally saw it. I had it all mixed up. It was a bad call but not an easy one to make. The linesman has to make the call when the first player reaches the dot. It was essentially a tie in the race to the dot with Cozens maybe by a nose. Tie to the defender? But Cozens clearly was gaining ground as proven by his reaching the puck first. The other part of the call once the first player reaches the dot is whether the puck will cross the line. I think the linesman was fooled by the direction of the puck.

Bad call yes but not because the linesman failed to see Cozens touching the puck. The call had already been made.

What the hell are you talking about?! It’s not icing until it crosses the goal line. How could he already make that call if it wasn’t even icing yet?!

[#freejame]

3 hours ago, Big Guava said:

How to say you never played competitive sports in your life without saying you never played competitive sports.

This is simply not possible over an 82 game season.

I played hockey through college and coached ten seasons of baseball, I think I understand competitive sports. I block shots at 10PM beer league on a Tuesday night because I’m a hockey player. What’s the excuse for the Sabres? 

Edited November 30 by #freejame

[Stoner]

22 minutes ago, SwampD said:

What the hell are you talking about?! It’s not icing until it crosses the goal line. How could he already make that call if it wasn’t even icing yet?!

Hybrid icing. Google is your friend.

[SwampD]

31 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Hybrid icing. Google is your friend.

I know what the rule is. Do you? The puck still has to go past the goal line for it to be icing. Until then, it’s just two guys chasing the puck.

The linesman ***** up. There is no defending it.

Edited November 30 by SwampD