2024-25 Trade Rumors and Speculation

[Weave]

34 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

KEEP CALLING THEM UNTIL YOU HAVE A DEAL.

This team needs a MASSIVE shakeup.

Go get McDavid.  I don't care if we "overpay"  

I'd like to keep Peterka and Tage if possible.  Everyone else should be offered

 

Dahlin / Power  + Cozens + Quinn + prospects + 1sts 

Overpaying for McDavid is basically how we got to here.  We overpaid badly for Eichel and had nothing left to actually ice a team.

[tom webster]

46 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Nobody's trading for Power with the contract they gave him. Nobody. 

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

[Crusader1969]

Just now, tom webster said:

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

The same niche that wanted Dahlin, Mitts, Tage, UPL, Samson traded 
would be nice to see Power paired with an actual NHL level dman for a bit before we completely discard him 

[ska-T Palmtown]

35 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said:

The same niche that wanted Dahlin, Mitts, Tage, UPL, Samson traded 
would be nice to see Power paired with an actual NHL level dman for a bit before we completely discard him 

Am I the only one that thought Power looked "just fine" last night as a first pair? What I have really noticed over the last few games (throw out the Avs, Dahlin going down with the injury threw things off) - is that Byram is playing the stay at home or deep safety pretty well when Dahlin pinches are jumps up. I can't remember an opposing team player being behind him. Sure, they have beat him 1:1 or 2:1 ... or hell 4:1 ... but he has been where he should be - which is like 75% of playing transition D.

Certain players, and I will leave that to @mjd1001, end up getting scrambly in the D-Zone, the structure collapses and the two D guys often end up outnumbered 3:2 down low. When the forwards meet the basic criteria of doing their jobs, we usually fair pretty well.

[Billznut]

1 hour ago, Mr Peabody said:

Time to weaponize our cap space and make a deal or help broker one. 

Dont hold your breath on that one 

[Flashsabre]

1 hour ago, tom webster said:

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

There are people on this board that would have traded Power straight up for Trouba because atleast Trouba hits people regardless of whether rest of his game is at.😳

[LabattBlue]

1 hour ago, tom webster said:

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

With that contract?  Best guess as to a return?

[jad1]

3 hours ago, Weave said:

Overpaying for McDavid is basically how we got to here.  We overpaid badly for Eichel and had nothing left to actually ice a team.

That's not true.  Adams signed Hall to an $8M contract during Eichel's last season.  Adams also traded for Staal that year. Adams had money to spend, even with Eichel's, Skinner's and Okposo's contracts on the books.

[ska-T Palmtown]

6 minutes ago, jad1 said:

That's not true.  Adams signed Hall to an $8M contract during Eichel's last season.  Adams also traded for Staal that year. Adams had money to spend, even with Eichel's, Skinner's and Okposo's contracts on the books.

I took the original comment to mean that we sold off every useful player to tank for Sir Jack and we had nearly nothing when he arrived. But, I could be wrong.

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, tom webster said:

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

We don't have many players in the "no touch" category. He, Dahlin and maybe Tage fall in that small category. He's already a good player. In another year or two he will be a top tier defenseman in the league. I think for the most part the posters here recognize that. 

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, tom webster said:

Power could be traded in the next fifteen minutes if Buffalo wanted too. He is very highly regarded everywhere except for a small niche in this board

Traded for nothing sure but traded for value? idk about that. You'd need a lot of cap space and a lot of faith in his possible upside. Definitely rules out all the top contenders. 

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Traded for nothing sure but traded for value? idk about that. You'd need a lot of cap space and a lot of faith in his possible upside. Definitely rules out all the top contenders. 

According to the Athletic's recent piece on NHL trade value, these are some of the players with approximately the same value as Power: Oettinger, Hischier, Robertson, and Aho.

According the Nov. 27 piece — which attempts to balance age, contract, team control, and performance — he's part of a tier of players (including Sidney Crosby and Victor Hedman) thought to rank outside the top 30 and inside the top 60 most valuable NHL trade pieces.

"What’s more valuable between a young, cost-controlled defenseman with a bright future (but who is still taking some early lumps) and a proven top-line center who has already made a significant impact on the biggest stage, but who has just one year left on his deal? The answer may vary based on a given team’s current and future outlook — which is the very basis for most trades, even if the magnitude is usually lower."

The piece says Power has more trade value than Tage Thompson, Sam Reinhart, Matthew Barzal, JT Miller, Cole Caufield and Mark Stone, among others.

Personally, I think piece makes some strange choices - particularly the further down the list you go, but I don't think Power is one of those. You may beg to differ, but the Athletic generally has more credibility than some guy in his basement. It's reasonable food for thought.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5920905/2024/11/27/connor-mcdavid-bedard-nhl-trade-value-rankings/

[Weave]

2 hours ago, ska-T Chitown said:

I took the original comment to mean that we sold off every useful player to tank for Sir Jack and we had nearly nothing when he arrived. But, I could be wrong.

Nope.  You got it.

[steveoath]

6 hours ago, dudacek said:

The piece says Power has more trade value than Tage Thompson, Sam Reinhart, Matthew Barzal, JT Miller, Cole Caufield and Mark Stone, among others.

Would straight up trade power for barzal in a heartbeat

[PerreaultForever]

6 hours ago, dudacek said:

According to the Athletic's recent piece on NHL trade value, these are some of the players with approximately the same value as Power: Oettinger, Hischier, Robertson, and Aho.

According the Nov. 27 piece — which attempts to balance age, contract, team control, and performance — he's part of a tier of players (including Sidney Crosby and Victor Hedman) thought to rank outside the top 30 and inside the top 60 most valuable NHL trade pieces.

"What’s more valuable between a young, cost-controlled defenseman with a bright future (but who is still taking some early lumps) and a proven top-line center who has already made a significant impact on the biggest stage, but who has just one year left on his deal? The answer may vary based on a given team’s current and future outlook — which is the very basis for most trades, even if the magnitude is usually lower."

The piece says Power has more trade value than Tage Thompson, Sam Reinhart, Matthew Barzal, JT Miller, Cole Caufield and Mark Stone, among others.

Personally, I think piece makes some strange choices - particularly the further down the list you go, but I don't think Power is one of those. You may beg to differ, but the Athletic generally has more credibility than some guy in his basement. It's reasonable food for thought.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5920905/2024/11/27/connor-mcdavid-bedard-nhl-trade-value-rankings/

Ya I don't buy that at all. They are factoring in his number one pick status and the projected upside to that and not just looking at what he's done on the ice.  There might be GMs willing to gamble on that projected upside, that part is possible. Rebuilding teams.

The problem with Power is he has all the size and skill you could want, but he does not really seem to want to play defense. Bit of a problem for a defenseman. 

 

[mjd1001]

10 hours ago, dudacek said:

According to the Athletic's recent piece on NHL trade value, these are some of the players with approximately the same value as Power: Oettinger, Hischier, Robertson, and Aho.

According the Nov. 27 piece — which attempts to balance age, contract, team control, and performance — he's part of a tier of players (including Sidney Crosby and Victor Hedman) thought to rank outside the top 30 and inside the top 60 most valuable NHL trade pieces.

"What’s more valuable between a young, cost-controlled defenseman with a bright future (but who is still taking some early lumps) and a proven top-line center who has already made a significant impact on the biggest stage, but who has just one year left on his deal? The answer may vary based on a given team’s current and future outlook — which is the very basis for most trades, even if the magnitude is usually lower."

The piece says Power has more trade value than Tage Thompson, Sam Reinhart, Matthew Barzal, JT Miller, Cole Caufield and Mark Stone, among others.

Personally, I think piece makes some strange choices - particularly the further down the list you go, but I don't think Power is one of those. You may beg to differ, but the Athletic generally has more credibility than some guy in his basement. It's reasonable food for thought.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5920905/2024/11/27/connor-mcdavid-bedard-nhl-trade-value-rankings/

I defend power, and I think he is likely to grow into his contract, I don't want to trade him, but a couple of those names are way off.

Aho and Hischier? no way.

Aho is a star RIGHT NOW.  Guy is a threat for 30-40 goals and 90-100 points at the start of every season as he just enters his prime now. He is also signed long term at a reasonable rate just under $10m. 

Hischier is even worse. He's only 25, scored 30 already and is on pace for 40 this year. 80-90 point potential guy.  Oh, and he has gotten some Selke attention before.

I like Power and do not want him traded, but I would be shocked if he has as much value as Hischier, just entering his prime, a scorer, set up guy, and actual great 2 way player.

[bunomatic]

3 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

I defend power, and I think he is likely to grow into his contract, I don't want to trade him, but a couple of those names are way off.

Aho and Hischier? no way.

Aho is a star RIGHT NOW.  Guy is a threat for 30-40 goals and 90-100 points at the start of every season as he just enters his prime now. He is also signed long term at a reasonable rate just under $10m. 

Hischier is even worse. He's only 25, scored 30 already and is on pace for 40 this year. 80-90 point potential guy.  Oh, and he has gotten some Selke attention before.

I like Power and do not want him traded, but I would be shocked if he has as much value as Hischier, just entering his prime, a scorer, set up guy, and actual great 2 way player.

Make that trade. You have to give to get.

[LTS]

9 hours ago, steveoath said:

Would straight up trade power for barzal in a heartbeat

I like Barzal, but he seems to be injured quite often.

[Brawndo]

 

[#freejame]

Just now, Brawndo said:

 

Ouch. Larkin is a good player. Wish TM could have pulled off that trade. 

[Flashsabre]

Larkin to Vegas incoming😁

Yzerman has skated under the radar for too long for the awful job he has done in Detroit.

Edited December 8 by Flashsabre

[Scottysabres]

7 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Ouch. Larkin is a good player. Wish TM could have pulled off that trade. 

That's a first line center that's available? Kyven Adams..........(crickets).......

[Flashsabre]

10 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

That's a first line center that's available? Kyven Adams..........(crickets).......

Oh yes Larkin wants to force his way out of Detroit to walk into this tire 🔥 

[PerreaultForever]

22 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

So Detroit's basically in the same tired of losing boat as the Sabres. I suspect we will hear at some point that Brady Tkachuk really does want out of Ottawa too. We aren't the only futility team, we're just the best at it. 

[ASlugAbove]

28 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

 

This is not true - see tweet