2024-25 Trade Rumors and Speculation

[Brawndo]

David Jiricek RHD in the Columbus Organization maybe available per Friedman 

[inkman]

The Sabres could use both vets.  It will never happen but I’d trade Noah Östlund and Ryan Johnson level prospects for them.  Size, toughness, play the game the right way, yada yada.  
 

We’ve already seen what infusing grown professional men in Zucker and McLeod into the lineup can do.  
 

 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Buffalo definitely needs to find a vet scorer that is not afraid of the front of the net. 

[Jorcus]

Trouba is pretty much a no go. He want's to stay in the area, salary is high and just not as effective as he used to be. Kreider would be a bit of a risk because of the 3 years left on the contract vs his age. Still one of the best net front guys out there. Rangers have very little depth so they will need an NHL player coming back, probably 2. He also has a 15 team no trade list to contend with. If the price was right He would be a good addition to this team.  

[Weave]

53 minutes ago, inkman said:

The Sabres could use both vets.  It will never happen but I’d trade Noah Östlund and Ryan Johnson level prospects for them.  Size, toughness, play the game the right way, yada yada.  
 

We’ve already seen what infusing grown professional men in Zucker and McLeod into the lineup can do.  
 

 

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

[inkman]

8 minutes ago, Weave said:

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

Krebs and Jokiharju? 

[msw2112]

I may be in the minority, but I'm not that interested in the Sabres making a major deal.  We've "suffered" so long with a young team, but with Lindy at the helm, they're finally starting to come along and take shape.  I'd actually like to see how things play out.  I'm fine with trading a 2nd round draft pick, or that plus other lower picks, to pick up another veteran or two.  Maybe the "RHD" version of Zucker, or another veteran forward of Zucker's caliber.  Definitely players OVER the age of 25.  There's more than enough youth on the team. 

I just get the sense that if they trade one of their younger players - Krebs, Quinn, Kulich, Power, etc. that the player will develop into a star on someone else's roster and the guy we acquire won't be a longer-term asset.  Lindy has gotten the power play going.  The PK has been terrific.  The goaltending is rounding into form.  The in-zone defense is a work in progress, but I think Lindy will address that next.  

Note that I liked the Savoie trade.  He could develop into a star in Edmonton, but I'm not sure he will, and McLeod has been a great addition.  Both Benson and Savoie got early chances with the team and despite being similar in size and coming from the same Junior team, Benson was far more effective.  Savoie didn't seem to have the "it" factor that Benson had/has.  Savoie may turn into Tyler Ennis and have a nice NHL career, but Benson could be more of a Brad Marchand type.  McLeod is helping the team now with his speed and grit, along with some timely goal scoring.  He also was great for Edmonton in the playoffs last season and could be the type of guy that could really benefit the Sabres if and when they finally make the playoffs.

Edited November 25 by msw2112

[Thorner]

The gains we are seeing are mostly from backing off on some of that willful suffering and instead converting some future assets to win-now components. I take the exact opposite lesson tbh

[thewookie1]

49 minutes ago, Weave said:

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

That's the biggest issue to be honest. I have no interest in a hockey trade that isn't effectively Jokiharju for a more defensive Dman.

I don't have much interest in Trouba

Kreider's analytics this year as well as his contract would give me pause.

[msw2112]

3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

That's the biggest issue to be honest. I have no interest in a hockey trade that isn't effectively Jokiharju for a more defensive Dman.

I don't have much interest in Trouba

Kreider's analytics this year as well as his contract would give me pause.

That would be a reasonable trade.  The Sabres have three great young puck-moving defensemen (Dahlin, Power, Byrum).  Some teams don't, and need that type of player.  Maybe another team has a surplus of stay-at-home defensemen.  I'd be fine with swapping Joki for a player of similar value that was more of a stay-at-home type of defensive defenseman.  Joki is a former first-round pick with some good skating ability and a lot of NHL experience, so he has some value in the league, but he's not what the Sabres need right now.  That's the kind of trade that could help improve the current roster without a huge cost and without mortgaging any future assets.

[Scottysabres]

As others have said, Kreider, if the price is reasonable. And by reasonable, I do not mean one of 1st rd prospects currently in our pipeline.

I am with Weave, roster player. 

[JustOneParade]

2 hours ago, Brawndo said:

David Jiricek RHD in the Columbus Organization maybe available per Friedman 

Anyone got any intel on what's going on with him? Should he be a trade target? (Recognizing he's not the veteran presence that would be ideal).

[#freejame]

There’s moves I’d like to make, but Trouba and Kreider aren’t on the list. 

[LGR4GM]

3 hours ago, Brawndo said:

David Jiricek RHD in the Columbus Organization maybe available per Friedman 

David Jiricek is someone that intrigues me. 

[DarthEbriate]

30 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

David Jiricek is someone that intrigues me. 

For sure.

My two concerns with Jiricek are:

1) This team doesn't need to get younger on D at the moment, even if the ceiling of the top 4 would go through the roof in the next few seasons, and

2) If I recall correctly, he or his camp had some playing time/power play time concerns last season, while Werenski was out. Bringing him here behind Dahlin, Power, and potentially Byram... he'd have a serious uphill climb to PP time, even with his heavy shot.

[Flashsabre]

Jiricek is not good enough to play in the NHL right now. He would be a project acquisition. If they make a move right now I want to see a vet acquisition that can help win games right now.

If they want to make vet moves as well as acquire a Jiricek for the future I have no problem with that but he can’t be the big move right now to help this team.

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, #freejame said:

There’s moves I’d like to make, but Trouba and Kreider aren’t on the list. 

I agree.

Right now, at this moment, I'm not in a hurry to force a trade (talk to me again after the next 2 game losing streak and I might tell you something different.)

That doesn't mean that this team should not be on the lookout for any moves, and they likely should be making some move between now and the deadline. But...you are 'adding' Tage and Greenway back to the lineup soon, and I'm ok with letting the current roster simmer, gel, (whatever word you want to use)....to see who steps up, continues to step up, or to see who you where relying on but fails to do so.

If there is a guy you targeted as a fit for this team and he becomes available and Lindy wants him, then go get him. But I'm not in a hurry to force something now if its not there.

[JohnC]

9 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Jiricek is not good enough to play in the NHL right now. He would be a project acquisition. If they make a move right now I want to see a vet acquisition that can help win games right now.

If they want to make vet moves as well as acquire a Jiricek for the future I have no problem with that but he can’t be the big move right now to help this team.

A second-line winger who can score and a stay-at-home defenseman would better round out this team. It would be such a bonus if Quinn can regain his form. My concern about him this season is that it is not unusual for a player who suffered a serious leg to take an added year after healing to get the zip back to his legs. 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, msw2112 said:

I may be in the minority, but I'm not that interested in the Sabres making a major deal.  We've "suffered" so long with a young team, but with Lindy at the helm, they're finally starting to come along and take shape.  I'd actually like to see how things play out.  I'm fine with trading a 2nd round draft pick, or that plus other lower picks, to pick up another veteran or two.  Maybe the "RHD" version of Zucker, or another veteran forward of Zucker's caliber.  Definitely players OVER the age of 25.  There's more than enough youth on the team. 

I just get the sense that if they trade one of their younger players - Krebs, Quinn, Kulich, Power, etc. that the player will develop into a star on someone else's roster and the guy we acquire won't be a longer-term asset.  Lindy has gotten the power play going.  The PK has been terrific.  The goaltending is rounding into form.  The in-zone defense is a work in progress, but I think Lindy will address that next.  

Note that I liked the Savoie trade.  He could develop into a star in Edmonton, but I'm not sure he will, and McLeod has been a great addition.  Both Benson and Savoie got early chances with the team and despite being similar in size and coming from the same Junior team, Benson was far more effective.  Savoie didn't seem to have the "it" factor that Benson had/has.  Savoie may turn into Tyler Ennis and have a nice NHL career, but Benson could be more of a Brad Marchand type.  McLeod is helping the team now with his speed and grit, along with some timely goal scoring.  He also was great for Edmonton in the playoffs last season and could be the type of guy that could really benefit the Sabres if and when they finally make the playoffs.

Can't agree. Some of us don't want to wait any longer and don't want to miss the playoffs by a point or two. 

I've seen the Kreider and Trouba rumors and the Sabres adding both of those players is a game changing move that would definitely get us in the playoffs this year imo. Kreider in front on the PP is exactly what this team needs. The trade would of course have to be for prospects, picks or fringe players and not for key roster pieces. We have the trade capital to do this. few other teams do. 

You have to look at the impact a guy like Zucker is having and realize Kreider takes that up even higher. We've lacked good veterans for years and a move like this is a complete change and when it succeeds it changes everything as I think we'd also no longer be an avoided destination. We'd be legit again. We miss the playoffs by staying the course and waiting and who knows who loses their love next. 

Kreider is definitely being discussed as I've heard his name in Boston circles too. Don't know how they'd make that happen but lots of people think he's the power forward that they desperately need too. Adams needs to be proactive on this if it's possible. Overpay in prospects idc.

Jiricek? I like the potential and if you want to shed some small fast forward prospect(s) for this D prospect I'd be all for it, but he's not NHL ready and I do not want to be a farm club for the league any more. 

[msw2112]

1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

Can't agree. Some of us don't want to wait any longer and don't want to miss the playoffs by a point or two. 

I've seen the Kreider and Trouba rumors and the Sabres adding both of those players is a game changing move that would definitely get us in the playoffs this year imo. Kreider in front on the PP is exactly what this team needs. The trade would of course have to be for prospects, picks or fringe players and not for key roster pieces. We have the trade capital to do this. few other teams do. 

You have to look at the impact a guy like Zucker is having and realize Kreider takes that up even higher. We've lacked good veterans for years and a move like this is a complete change and when it succeeds it changes everything as I think we'd also no longer be an avoided destination. We'd be legit again. We miss the playoffs by staying the course and waiting and who knows who loses their love next. 

Kreider is definitely being discussed as I've heard his name in Boston circles too. Don't know how they'd make that happen but lots of people think he's the power forward that they desperately need too. Adams needs to be proactive on this if it's possible. Overpay in prospects idc.

Jiricek? I like the potential and if you want to shed some small fast forward prospect(s) for this D prospect I'd be all for it, but he's not NHL ready and I do not want to be a farm club for the league any more. 

I think we are agreeing more than you think.  My post praised Zucker and also the Savoie for McLeod trade.  What I said was that I didn't want to see the team make a "major deal" like trading off regular players like Cozens, Quinn, etc.  I also said that I'd be comfortable trading a 2nd round pick and/or additional lower picks to acquire some veteran players.

What I don't want to see is Adams blowing up the roster, now that we've FINALLY started to see some progress.  Other than Quinn (who may be coming along and still has a lot of upside), most of the younger players have improved this season and they seem to be getting used to Lindy's system.  Adding a couple of quality veterans for "prospects, picks or fringe players and not for key roster pieces" is fine, although I'd rather trade picks (and fringe players) than prospects.  The prospect pipeline is looking pretty good right now, so picks might be more valuable to a team that doesn't have a very deep prospect pool and could be flipped for veteran assets.

I think that the current team, with Lindy as coach, and with Thompson and Greenway coming back, is in a better position to MAKE the playoffs by a point or two rather the MISS by a point or two.  That said, success is fragile.  Despite a great game by Reimer the other night, if UPL goes down with a significant injury, a lot of this changes.  Levi will be sharper and better after playing regularly in Rochester, but I'm not sure that he and Reimer could get the job done.

One more thing to add is that the trade deadline is a long ways away.  We'll have a much better picture of what the team looks like by then.  Will they be buyers or sellers?  I don't know, but I'd like to see the current roster marinate with the new Ruff system for a little bit longer before shaking things up.  Bring in a veteran for a 2nd round pick?  Sure.  Blow it up by dealing major roster pieces - not what I want to see.

Edited November 25 by msw2112

[Scottysabres]

52 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Can't agree. Some of us don't want to wait any longer and don't want to miss the playoffs by a point or two. 

I've seen the Kreider and Trouba rumors and the Sabres adding both of those players is a game changing move that would definitely get us in the playoffs this year imo. Kreider in front on the PP is exactly what this team needs. The trade would of course have to be for prospects, picks or fringe players and not for key roster pieces. We have the trade capital to do this. few other teams do. 

You have to look at the impact a guy like Zucker is having and realize Kreider takes that up even higher. We've lacked good veterans for years and a move like this is a complete change and when it succeeds it changes everything as I think we'd also no longer be an avoided destination. We'd be legit again. We miss the playoffs by staying the course and waiting and who knows who loses their love next. 

Kreider is definitely being discussed as I've heard his name in Boston circles too. Don't know how they'd make that happen but lots of people think he's the power forward that they desperately need too. Adams needs to be proactive on this if it's possible. Overpay in prospects idc.

Jiricek? I like the potential and if you want to shed some small fast forward prospect(s) for this D prospect I'd be all for it, but he's not NHL ready and I do not want to be a farm club for the league any more. 

I've watched a good deal of Ranger games this past year and a half, Trouba is 100% not what this team needs in my most humbled opinion. He's not the Trouba of his past. 

Kreider? Ya, he's definitely the solid line 2 player, even at his age and with his contract, we should be somewhat aggressively targeting. You are correct in that his net front presence is exactly what we need. I'd give a roster player for him, Cozens, Quinn, along those lines. Yes I realize we're sacrificing long term for 2.5 seasons, but, let's be candid, not so much yourself but to others that read this. The Sabres cup of near or 2.5 seasons out roster ready youth floweth over. Kreider would be not just a "for wins now" move, he's an example setter by his mere play to be sure.

So, it is with that in mind, I'm all aboard that type of move train.

[thewookie1]

4 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

I've watched a good deal of Ranger games this past year and a half, Trouba is 100% not what this team needs in my most humbled opinion. He's not the Trouba of his past. 

Kreider? Ya, he's definitely the solid line 2 player, even at his age and with his contract, we should be somewhat aggressively targeting. You are correct in that his net front presence is exactly what we need. I'd give a roster player for him, Cozens, Quinn, along those lines. Yes I realize we're sacrificing long term for 2.5 seasons, but, let's be candid, not so much yourself but to others that read this. The Sabres cup of near or 2.5 seasons out roster ready youth floweth over. Kreider would be not just a "for wins now" move, he's an example setter by his mere play to be sure.

So, it is with that in mind, I'm all aboard that type of move train.

 

Sorry but that's far beyond a bridge too far

[Scottysabres]

17 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

 

Sorry but that's far beyond a bridge too far

I have no issues with opposing point of views when it comes to my opinions. I make the comment, and stand by it.

[Flashsabre]

Sounds like the Rags have to clear cap to extend goalie Igor. 
 

I agree with others that Kreider would be a great pickup. Leadership, power forward and net front presence.

No idea what the Rags want though in return. They are 12-6

[thewookie1]

21 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Sounds like the Rags have to clear cap to extend goalie Igor. 
 

I agree with others that Kreider would be a great pickup. Leadership, power forward and net front presence.

No idea what the Rags want though in return. They are 12-6

They’d want Quinn or Peterka and neither are available for a 33 year old with 9 goals but 0 assists with 2.5 more years at 6.5mil per.