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The Sabres could use both vets.  It will never happen but I’d trade Noah Östlund and Ryan Johnson level prospects for them.  Size, toughness, play the game the right way, yada yada.  
 

We’ve already seen what infusing grown professional men in Zucker and McLeod into the lineup can do.  
 

 

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Trouba is pretty much a no go. He want's to stay in the area, salary is high and just not as effective as he used to be. Kreider would be a bit of a risk because of the 3 years left on the contract vs his age. Still one of the best net front guys out there. Rangers have very little depth so they will need an NHL player coming back, probably 2. He also has a 15 team no trade list to contend with. If the price was right He would be a good addition to this team.  

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53 minutes ago, inkman said:

The Sabres could use both vets.  It will never happen but I’d trade Noah Östlund and Ryan Johnson level prospects for them.  Size, toughness, play the game the right way, yada yada.  
 

We’ve already seen what infusing grown professional men in Zucker and McLeod into the lineup can do.  
 

 

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

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8 minutes ago, Weave said:

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

Krebs and Jokiharju? 

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I may be in the minority, but I'm not that interested in the Sabres making a major deal.  We've "suffered" so long with a young team, but with Lindy at the helm, they're finally starting to come along and take shape.  I'd actually like to see how things play out.  I'm fine with trading a 2nd round draft pick, or that plus other lower picks, to pick up another veteran or two.  Maybe the "RHD" version of Zucker, or another veteran forward of Zucker's caliber.  Definitely players OVER the age of 25.  There's more than enough youth on the team. 

I just get the sense that if they trade one of their younger players - Krebs, Quinn, Kulich, Power, etc. that the player will develop into a star on someone else's roster and the guy we acquire won't be a longer-term asset.  Lindy has gotten the power play going.  The PK has been terrific.  The goaltending is rounding into form.  The in-zone defense is a work in progress, but I think Lindy will address that next.  

Note that I liked the Savoie trade.  He could develop into a star in Edmonton, but I'm not sure he will, and McLeod has been a great addition.  Both Benson and Savoie got early chances with the team and despite being similar in size and coming from the same Junior team, Benson was far more effective.  Savoie didn't seem to have the "it" factor that Benson had/has.  Savoie may turn into Tyler Ennis and have a nice NHL career, but Benson could be more of a Brad Marchand type.  McLeod is helping the team now with his speed and grit, along with some timely goal scoring.  He also was great for Edmonton in the playoffs last season and could be the type of guy that could really benefit the Sabres if and when they finally make the playoffs.

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The gains we are seeing are mostly from backing off on some of that willful suffering and instead converting some future assets to win-now components. I take the exact opposite lesson tbh

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49 minutes ago, Weave said:

I seriously doubt NYR moves rostered players for prospects. They are in win now mode and will be looking for striaght up hockey trades.

That's the biggest issue to be honest. I have no interest in a hockey trade that isn't effectively Jokiharju for a more defensive Dman.

I don't have much interest in Trouba

Kreider's analytics this year as well as his contract would give me pause.

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3 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

That's the biggest issue to be honest. I have no interest in a hockey trade that isn't effectively Jokiharju for a more defensive Dman.

I don't have much interest in Trouba

Kreider's analytics this year as well as his contract would give me pause.

That would be a reasonable trade.  The Sabres have three great young puck-moving defensemen (Dahlin, Power, Byrum).  Some teams don't, and need that type of player.  Maybe another team has a surplus of stay-at-home defensemen.  I'd be fine with swapping Joki for a player of similar value that was more of a stay-at-home type of defensive defenseman.  Joki is a former first-round pick with some good skating ability and a lot of NHL experience, so he has some value in the league, but he's not what the Sabres need right now.  That's the kind of trade that could help improve the current roster without a huge cost and without mortgaging any future assets.

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