Hank Posted November 21 Author Report Posted November 21 30 minutes ago, JujuFish said: This certainly doesn't match reality at all. Not only did Republicans control both the House and Senate, but they nearly universally worked with Trump. One exception I can think of, thanks to Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and John McCain voting no, was not allowing Trump to dismantle the Affordable Care Act without something to replace it. Democrats regained the House during the midterms, but Republicans maintained control of the Senate throughout Trump's term. Thank you for correcting me on that. A quick Google search would have told me that the house and senate were red in 18, my bad.
SwampD Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 14 minutes ago, Hank said: Thank you for correcting me on that. A quick Google search would have told me that the house and senate were red in 18, my bad. As I think project 2025 is awful and would set the country backward, and that tariffs would destroy this country, and that I don’t hate gays and women and ethnicities, hope they do nothing.
Hank Posted November 21 Author Report Posted November 21 12 hours ago, SwampD said: As I think project 2025 is awful and would set the country backward, and that tariffs would destroy this country, and that I don’t hate gays and women and ethnicities, hope they do nothing. I don't know anything about tariffs. If you (or anyone else) wouldn't mind indulging me, why are they a bad thing? Thanks in advance...
SwampD Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 30 minutes ago, Hank said: I don't know anything about tariffs. If you (or anyone else) wouldn't mind indulging me, why are they a bad thing? Thanks in advance... If you (generic “you”) think the economy is bad now (it’s not) and inflation is out of control, just wait until companies would have to pass along their tariff costs to consumers. No amount of whatever relief we would get for lower federal taxes is going to make that up. And the rich can afford to pay more for stuff. Everyone else suffers. We’d be right back to the robber baron days which someone else already mentioned.
Weave Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Hank said: I don't know anything about tariffs. If you (or anyone else) wouldn't mind indulging me, why are they a bad thing? Thanks in advance... Tariff costs almost always get passed on to the customer. They tend to contribute to inflation.
K-9 Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 2 hours ago, Hank said: I don't know anything about tariffs. If you (or anyone else) wouldn't mind indulging me, why are they a bad thing? Thanks in advance... There’s no shortage of info about tariffs and the harm they do to economies. Trumps plan has been universally condemned by leading economists both here and around the world. Here’s a little article for your consumption: https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-tariffs-impact-economy/#:~:text=Tariffs are trade barriers that,percent tariff on Mexican imports.
Hank Posted November 21 Author Report Posted November 21 2 hours ago, SwampD said: If you (generic “you”) think the economy is bad now (it’s not) and inflation is out of control, just wait until companies would have to pass along their tariff costs to consumers. No amount of whatever relief we would get for lower federal taxes is going to make that up. And the rich can afford to pay more for stuff. Everyone else suffers. We’d be right back to the robber baron days which someone else already mentioned. 43 minutes ago, Weave said: Tariff costs almost always get passed on to the customer. They tend to contribute to inflation. 10 minutes ago, K-9 said: There’s no shortage of info about tariffs and the harm they do to economies. Trumps plan has been universally condemned by leading economists both here and around the world. Here’s a little article for your consumption: https://taxfoundation.org/blog/trump-tariffs-impact-economy/#:~:text=Tariffs are trade barriers that,percent tariff on Mexican imports. Thank you all. I'm not trying to argue FOR tariffs, or say they are a good thing. I'm ignorant about them and would like to be a little less ignorant.
Weave Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 13 minutes ago, Hank said: Thank you all. I'm not trying to argue FOR tariffs, or say they are a good thing. I'm ignorant about them and would like to be a little less ignorant. Maybe I am misinterpreting, but you seem to have gone into the ballot box with the idea the interest rates and inflation were the faults of Biden’s polices. I think if there is one thing you can say Biden did well on, it was listening to the experts and staying out of their way.
SwampD Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Weave said: Maybe I am misinterpreting, but you seem to have gone into the ballot box with the idea the interest rates and inflation were the faults of Biden’s polices. I think if there is one thing you can say Biden did well on, it was listening to the experts and staying out of their way. He said he didn't vote for Trump. So That's good.
Weave Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 17 minutes ago, SwampD said: He said he didn't vote for Trump. So That's good. I wasn’t trying to suggest anything other than it’s a little late for this election to be asking those kind of questions.
SwampD Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 29 minutes ago, Weave said: I wasn’t trying to suggest anything other than it’s a little late for this election to be asking those kind of questions. Better than never asking them.
Weave Posted November 21 Report Posted November 21 22 minutes ago, SwampD said: Better than never asking them. True, but if interest rates and inflation are your significant motivators for who you favor, asking in October would have been the play. 1
SABRES 0311 Posted November 22 Report Posted November 22 Welp, ICBMs going both ways in the last couple days.
Hank Posted December 13 Author Report Posted December 13 Interesting.... Nancy Pelosi trying to ‘tank’ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s House Oversight Committee bid: Report by Victor Nava Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has reportedly launched a behind-the-scenes effort to thwart Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s (D-NY) bid to serve as the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee. Pelosi, 84, would rather see Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) serve as ranking member on the high-profile panel and is “actively working to tank” the 35-year-old New York Democrat’s bid, according to Punchbowl News. The former House speaker has been “making calls” urging Democrats to support Connolly, 74, over Ocasio-Cortez, the outlet reported on Thursday. https://nypost.com/2024/12/13/us-news/nancy-pelosi-trying-to-tank-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-house-oversight-committee-bid-report/
LTS Posted Wednesday at 03:28 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:28 PM 56 minutes ago, Hank said: Bad day for Liz Cheney. Can you add context to that? A link to whatever you read or saw that sparked your comment on here would assist others in confirming what you are referring to. Thanks.
Weave Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:21 PM 1 hour ago, LTS said: Can you add context to that? A link to whatever you read or saw that sparked your comment on here would assist others in confirming what you are referring to. Thanks. Yeah I had to dig a bit at first, but it’s out there now as headline news. Accusations that Cheney did some witness tampering and our new President elect smells blood and is calling for an FBI investigation.
K-9 Posted Wednesday at 05:41 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 05:41 PM 15 minutes ago, Weave said: Yeah I had to dig a bit at first, but it’s out there now as headline news. Accusations that Cheney did some witness tampering and our new President elect smells blood and is calling for an FBI investigation. Witness tampering. Yeah right. Every witness was a republican and now, NOW, they claim tampering? Meanwhile the rest of the country goes to crap as Cheeto man and his fascist loyalists ignore the big picture as they seek retribution against those who actually have respect for our Constitution and the rule of law. Banana republic time again.
LTS Posted Wednesday at 08:39 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:39 PM 2 hours ago, K-9 said: Witness tampering. Yeah right. Every witness was a republican and now, NOW, they claim tampering? Meanwhile the rest of the country goes to crap as Cheeto man and his fascist loyalists ignore the big picture as they seek retribution against those who actually have respect for our Constitution and the rule of law. Banana republic time again. Well, that's one possibility. However, what if there was tampering? Evidence does come to light at different times, sometimes much later. It's not like politicians serving both Democrat and Republican needs don't lie straight to our faces and get involved in illegal activities in order to further their agendas. DISCLAIMER: I am not a fan of Donald Trump.
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