Kevyn Adams Looking To “Do Something Big” per LeBrun

[elijah]

Just now, That Aud Smell said:

I ... I would be down for this if only for the comedic value. It would be pretty incredible. Especially if the player they got for Byram was objectively (or even arguably) not as good as Mittelstadt.

I should add to my take .. 

I’m a believer in analytics and Byram has struggled mightily not just as a Sabre, but for most of his career outside of the cup year. Trading Byram in a vacuum for any sort of decent return I would be very fond of. 

However unfortunately with the context of a 13 year playoff drought and the rest of Adams tenure, trading Byram for anything short of a Mittlestadt equivalent would be mind boggling

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, elijah said:

Lol, this would make me furious. Could’ve just kept Mitts at that point 

Our GM is a moron. 

[That Aud Smell]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Our GM is a moron. 

Pegula's toady.

Nothing more.

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Our GM is a moron. 

More than likely; at very least in regard to trades and pro scouting.

I will credit them with rather solid drafts though.

[pi2000]

If you ask any GM if they're open for business, they'll say yes.   

IMO this is just the media attempting to manufacture "breaking news".... nothing to see here, move along.

[PerreaultForever]

10 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

There is a narrative among some (many) posters that Adams is unqualified, should be fired immediately, and that any news that comes out supports that. Sabres want t to make a trade?  It proves Adams is bad because he should have done it earlier. Sabres don't make a trade? Its still Adams because obviously the team needs one.  

It's simpler than that. If a GM builds a team that steadily improves and wins he did a decent job. If his team fails to win and keeps missing the playoffs without progressing he did a bad job and his moves can all be critiqued. Adams has been here long enough to put him into that latter category unless they win and make the playoffs this year. 

Now if he trades Byram, then I can only think the cheapo owner doesn't care about winning. It's not that I like Byram, if anyone's read me they know I don't and I think that was a bad trade, but if you trade one guy away because you don't want to pay him and then trade the guy you got the next year because his contract is coming up then it starts to look like you just don't want to pay anybody. 

idk, it seems obvious to me. Our projected second line scorers aren't getting the job done and you have cap room and trade capital so you go get a winger to try to fix that hole. Not doing anything with that problem pisses away another season. Can't imagine any GM (experienced or inexperienced) can't see that so unless he is being prevented from doing it by the owner, he needs to fix it or be fired for not fixing it. Simple as that. 

[Indabuff]

Adams is in his annual state of brumation.  He'll crawl out of his den at the end of the season and spew some stuff about a tough market and that he has work to do in the off-season.  I cannot stand seeing his face with that stupid smirk anymore.  

[elijah]

 

Another report from Dreger. Not sure that I believe but 3 reports in 24 hours has to mean atleast something? Maybe? Probably not

[pi2000]

16 minutes ago, elijah said:

 

Another report from Dreger. Not sure that I believe but 3 reports in 24 hours has to mean atleast something? Maybe? Probably not

Media trying to drum something up, nothing concrete here.    

If anything, under Adams there have been fewer leaks on trades.... so to me this is just Dreger prognosticating.

[SDS]

43 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Media trying to drum something up, nothing concrete here.    

If anything, under Adams there have been fewer leaks on trades.... so to me this is just Dreger prognosticating.

Why do the Sabres have to be the team leaking?

[elijah]

1 hour ago, SDS said:

Why do the Sabres have to be the team leaking?

To this point, I don’t think the Sabres are the team leaking. All of the quotes posted in this thread seem to be from another teams perspective or just general feelings around the entire league 

Not that that makes it anymore likely that Adams does anything significant though

Edited November 15 by elijah

[GASabresIUFAN]

There are 3 major trading periods in the NHL calendar.

1) After the Stanley Cup through the end of June.  Last year there were over 40 moves in this period.  Beck Malenstyn was acquired during this period.

2) July 1 through the start of the season - this is sort of a continuation of the prior period but tends to be guys acquired if the GM misses in Free Agency or the selling team dumps a guy because they upgraded in free agency.  This is typcially about 25 or so deals.  The McLeod trades fits here.

3) The lead up to the trade deadline and the trade deadline itself. 50-60 deals can be made here.  Many rentals but sometimes you get a building block like Greenway.

That's it.  There are trades the rest of the calendar, but they are in much lower volume.  Trying to improve your team now is nearly impossible.  Mostly you get Robinson type deals or the recent Lars Eller deal.  There are blockbusters but rarely.  Vanek to the NYI trade for example.  Seth Jones for Johanson is another.  Adams expending huge energy in a futile attempt to fix problems we all knew existed in the off-season is just par for the course.

[Night Train]

Muel and Quinn for 1,2 non-china doll head cases. 

[ska-T Chitown]

21 hours ago, Thorner said:

 

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It’s not like Adams is incapable of making good moves. Zucker seems good. Me and you are simply saying he’s amendable to the results, over a LONG period of time, which is what we were granting. Honestly, the fact you said before he needed more time, and are now, after some time, shifting your stance, proves the inherent logic of your stance and your approach to the analysis 

That even, “the general manager who built the team is amendable to the results” seems to be a bridge too far sometimes, a contentious issue, makes debating or analyzing *anything* we see seem rather pointless

Can we all agree that this word was misused in the original post and it has now propagated to an alarming level ... unless everyone is trying to say he can change the results. Honestly, not even the 'correct' spelling - amenable - is also wrong? 'Amenable' meaning agreeable, not 'accountable' or 'responsible'.

If I am picking the wrong nits and @JohnC wants to say he did mean to say GMKA can correct the results, I will formally withdraw my complaint.

[Thorner]

12 minutes ago, ska-T Chitown said:

Can we all agree that this word was misused in the original post and it has now propagated to an alarming level ... unless everyone is trying to say he can change the results. Honestly, not even the 'correct' spelling - amenable - is also wrong? 'Amenable' meaning agreeable, not 'accountable' or 'responsible'.

If I am picking the wrong nits and @JohnC wants to say he did mean to say GMKA can correct the results, I will formally withdraw my complaint.

No I use “amendable to the results” all the time and it’s indeed wrong - thanks for letting me know I had something in my teeth. The word I was looking for is “Amenable”, as you point out. I don’t agree “amenable” would be wrong, though, the meaning I was going for was:

 

formal : able to be controlled, organized, or affected by something  —usually used with to

“Affected by something” the noteworthy portion: ie what I’m always trying to communicate is that Adams himself, specifically our *evaluation of* his performance - is affected by the results. Ie the results are the determining factor.

It’s a competing viewpoint to the “what could Kevyn Adams have even done?” line of thought you see creep up, that would find Adams evaluation NOT amendable (affected by) the results we see 

Edited November 15 by Thorner

[Thorner]

4 minutes ago, Thorner said:

It’s a competing viewpoint to the “what could Kevyn Adams have even done?” line of thought you see creep up, that would find Adams evaluation NOT amendable (affected by) the results we see 

Oh ffs 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

I heard Adams is upgrading from his usual McDonalds Happy meal to the new $5.00 value meal!!! 

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

I heard Adams is upgrading from his usual McDonalds Happy meal to the new $5.00 value meal!!! 

A flat junior chicken with unsalted small fries and a coke with melted ice 

[ska-T Chitown]

6 minutes ago, Thorner said:

formal : able to be controlled, organized, or affected by something  —usually used with to

“Affected by something” the noteworthy portion: ie what I’m always trying to communicate is that Adams himself, specifically our *evaluation of* his performance - is affected by the results. Ie the results are the determining factor.

how DARE you look past the first definition result that the crappy google AI gives you!! 🤣

My client (who is also me) agrees to the terms as such: All use of "amendable" where "amenable" belongs will stop and "amenable" shall henceforth be beyond reproach for the meaning proposed by @Thorner.

Pleasure, as always.

[SDS]

24 minutes ago, Thorner said:

Oh ffs 

Do I need to make a word filter?

[French Collection]

At the very least he could be the third party taking on salary for real GMs to make a deal. Yeah right, he’s had the cap space for years and hasn’t gone there. I guess TP doesn’t value draft picks for paying out $$.

If this team is in the mix at the deadline he could be a big game hunter with that cap space. Just do something to show everyone you actually care.

[RETURNTOGLORY]

Now that Lindy has come onboard, he's evaluated the talent and has no doubt, "suggested" to KA what's needed to put the team over the top.

I still think Goaltending is #1. 

[elijah]

2 hours ago, RETURNTOGLORY said:

Now that Lindy has come onboard, he's evaluated the talent and has no doubt, "suggested" to KA what's needed to put the team over the top.

I still think Goaltending is #1. 

Seems like the needs are the exact same as the offseason, a viable backup goalie in case Levi doesn’t work out, a Power pairing, and a middle 6 scorer. Shocking to say the least, I’m not sure anyone saw that coming. 

[LGR4GM]

2 hours ago, RETURNTOGLORY said:

Now that Lindy has come onboard, he's evaluated the talent and has no doubt, "suggested" to KA what's needed to put the team over the top.

I still think Goaltending is #1. 

Lindy has very publicly endorsed upl as the top netminder. I don't think there's much of any chance Buffalo is going after a goalie. Especially after UPLs contract. 

[Stoner]

On 11/14/2024 at 4:50 PM, That Aud Smell said:

Pegula's toady.

Nothing more.

First kick at the can... 2011 to 2020. Second kick 2020 to ??? Now who would start their second kick at the can by hiring unqualified, loyalist toadies?