James Reimer reclaimed by the Sabres

[Bangarang]

Levi to Rochester?

[DarthEbriate]

  On 11/13/2024 at 7:36 PM, Bangarang said:

Levi to Rochester?

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At least not until Luukkonen shakes off his day-to-day listing.

But then, yes, I would send Levi down to play a bunch. Sandstrom is also out, so you need a goalie for a good Amerks squad to hunt for their own playoffs. 

[LGR4GM]

  On 11/13/2024 at 7:36 PM, Bangarang said:

Levi to Rochester?

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No, Samuelsson was put on IR. They have a roster spot

[LGR4GM]

At least not right away for Levi. I'd guess he'll start Thursday. 

[pastajoe]

 

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/13/2024 at 7:47 PM, LGR4GM said:

No, Samuelsson was put on IR. They have a roster spot

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Yes, because they are too stupid to add a forward so that they can sit Quinn in the press box where he belongs. 

But yes, it'll be 3 goalies and then who knows. 

[Pimlach]

  On 11/13/2024 at 8:42 PM, PerreaultForever said:

Yes, because they are too stupid to add a forward so that they can sit Quinn in the press box where he belongs. 

But yes, it'll be 3 goalies and then who knows. 

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I recall Quinn getting some press box time under Granato in the past and coming back better for it.  

Abe-Kubel is ready to get some ice, maybe they sit Quinn next game against St Louis?  

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/13/2024 at 9:04 PM, Pimlach said:

I recall Quinn getting some press box time under Granato in the past and coming back better for it.  

Abe-Kubel is ready to get some ice, maybe they sit Quinn next game against St Louis?  

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I want a situation where he has to start to realize he needs to earn it and not just be handed it. Quinn just lacks all effort. He needs a wake up call. 

Problem is Abe-Kubel is a 4th liner fringe player so you end up putting Krebs higher and that doesn't fix a whole lot. We're a good forward short. 

The much heralded 4th line hasn't really impressed me either. 

[Pimlach]

  On 11/13/2024 at 9:13 PM, PerreaultForever said:

I want a situation where he has to start to realize he needs to earn it and not just be handed it. Quinn just lacks all effort. He needs a wake up call. 

Problem is Abe-Kubel is a 4th liner fringe player so you end up putting Krebs higher and that doesn't fix a whole lot. We're a good forward short. 

The much heralded 4th line hasn't really impressed me either. 

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Krebs is already elevated to 3C with the injury to Thompson.    Ruff ran McLoed on the first line to day at practice.   The center spline is weak without Thompson.  The spare forward is Abe-Kubel unless they bring Kulich back and make another roster move.  

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/13/2024 at 9:54 PM, Pimlach said:

Krebs is already elevated to 3C with the injury to Thompson.    Ruff ran McLoed on the first line to day at practice.   The center spline is weak without Thompson.  The spare forward is Abe-Kubel unless they bring Kulich back and make another roster move.  

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So if Thompson's out there actually is no spare forward. They can run with 7 D but otherwise it's Abe-Kubel onto the 4th line, Lafferty over to center, Krebs up to the 3rd and McLeod up to the first. Quinn gets to play no matter how much he sucks. Yay. 

[LGR4GM]

Derek Roy looks pretty good, sign him

[Pimlach]

  On 11/14/2024 at 1:01 AM, PerreaultForever said:

So if Thompson's out there actually is no spare forward. They can run with 7 D but otherwise it's Abe-Kubel onto the 4th line, Lafferty over to center, Krebs up to the 3rd and McLeod up to the first. Quinn gets to play no matter how much he sucks. Yay. 

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Hadn’t thought of 7D. Joker could come back or Abe-Kubel, Lindy has that option. 
 

It will be interesting to see who steps up, if anybody. 

[#freejame]

  On 11/14/2024 at 1:07 AM, LGR4GM said:

Derek Roy looks pretty good, sign him

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Did you go tonight? Eric Boulton looked rough. Great to see Connelly out there. 

[LGR4GM]

  On 11/14/2024 at 2:31 AM, #freejame said:

Did you go tonight? Eric Boulton looked rough. Great to see Connelly out there. 

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I was. Glad to see Cody Hodgson out there too. I feel bad for him and wish him nothing but the best. 

[Carmel Corn]

  On 11/14/2024 at 1:01 AM, PerreaultForever said:

So if Thompson's out there actually is no spare forward. They can run with 7 D but otherwise it's Abe-Kubel onto the 4th line, Lafferty over to center, Krebs up to the 3rd and McLeod up to the first. Quinn gets to play no matter how much he sucks. Yay. 

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  On 11/14/2024 at 2:15 AM, Pimlach said:

Hadn’t thought of 7D. Joker could come back or Abe-Kubel, Lindy has that option. 
 

It will be interesting to see who steps up, if anybody. 

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Personally I detest the 7D lineup, but maybe somebody can help me understand why it is something worth considering?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Shouldn’t the thread title be updated to reflect the Sabres claiming Reimer?

[In The Buff]

  On 11/13/2024 at 9:54 PM, Pimlach said:

Krebs is already elevated to 3C with the injury to Thompson.    Ruff ran McLoed on the first line to day at practice.   The center spline is weak without Thompson.  The spare forward is Abe-Kubel unless they bring Kulich back and make another roster move.  

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its too bad we traded Mitts. And ive heard rumors about trading Cozens for help on D. I cant imagine how weak we'd look if that happened. But If Thompson is out for awhile i'd assume Kulich comes back but who knows.

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/14/2024 at 3:38 AM, Carmel Corn said:

 

Personally I detest the 7D lineup, but maybe somebody can help me understand why it is something worth considering?

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It's not ideal but if you don't have any decent forwards to sub in...........

Personally I think it only works if you have a bruising D man who you can throw onto the 4th line wing for some shifts. There was probably a more recent example of a Sabres D man playing wing but the last time I remember that clearly was when that D man was named.................wait for it.................Lindy Ruff. 

[Pimlach]

  On 11/14/2024 at 3:38 AM, Carmel Corn said:

 

Personally I detest the 7D lineup, but maybe somebody can help me understand why it is something worth considering?

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Well if your best lineup is 7D then it’s worth considering.  
 

You look at your bottom D and your bottom F and decide which player brings more.  Then you have to be willing to shuffle lines to accommodate the imbalance.  It not ideal.  I’m not advocating for it.  

[msw2112]

  On 11/14/2024 at 7:09 AM, PerreaultForever said:

It's not ideal but if you don't have any decent forwards to sub in...........

Personally I think it only works if you have a bruising D man who you can throw onto the 4th line wing for some shifts. There was probably a more recent example of a Sabres D man playing wing but the last time I remember that clearly was when that D man was named.................wait for it.................Lindy Ruff. 

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I remember Lindy playing wing, but does anyone remember Marc-André Gragnani, a borderline NHL defenseman who got called up from Rochester a few times in the early 2000s playing some wing?  I do, and was able to confirm it on Wikipedia:

"He played minor hockey for the Dauphins de Deux-Rives followed by four years in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL). He was selected 87th overall by the Buffalo Sabres in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and signed a professional contract with the Sabres in June 2007. After completing his junior career with the PEI Rocket, Gragnani began his professional career within the Sabres organization in the 2007–08 season, making his debut on February 23, 2008. Although originally drafted as a defenceman, Gragnani shifted to the left wing position during his first season.[1] " ( "Sabres call up Gragnani". wgr550.com. February 23, 2008. Retrieved January 2, 2010.[permanent dead link])

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[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/14/2024 at 3:59 PM, msw2112 said:

I remember Lindy playing wing, but does anyone remember Marc-André Gragnani, a borderline NHL defenseman who got called up from Rochester a few times in the early 2000s playing some wing?  I do, and was able to confirm it on Wikipedia:

"He played minor hockey for the Dauphins de Deux-Rives followed by four years in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL). He was selected 87th overall by the Buffalo Sabres in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft and signed a professional contract with the Sabres in June 2007. After completing his junior career with the PEI Rocket, Gragnani began his professional career within the Sabres organization in the 2007–08 season, making his debut on February 23, 2008. Although originally drafted as a defenceman, Gragnani shifted to the left wing position during his first season.[1] " ( "Sabres call up Gragnani". wgr550.com. February 23, 2008. Retrieved January 2, 2010.[permanent dead link])

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I don't remember him but did he ever play D for them? If not he doesn't qualify 🙂

I'm thinking Val James might have been a D man who played wing as well but I'm not sure. I think Lee Fogolin had some wing time as well, much like Lindy was used. 

Lindy was actually a pretty bad D man when he started, which is why he was put on the wing to hit people as he had a lot of raw skill and size. 

[Richard Noggin]

  On 11/14/2024 at 7:09 AM, PerreaultForever said:

It's not ideal but if you don't have any decent forwards to sub in...........

Personally I think it only works if you have a bruising D man who you can throw onto the 4th line wing for some shifts. There was probably a more recent example of a Sabres D man playing wing but the last time I remember that clearly was when that D man was named.................wait for it.................Lindy Ruff. 

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Did Nic Deslauriers complete his conversion from D to LW before entering the Buffalo org? Wasn't he a D-man originally? I know it's not the same thing, exactly, but he immediately popped into my head. 

**Wikipedia page confirms that the LA organization first experimented with the LW transition in preseason, but it wasn't until Buffalo brought him in via trade later that season and then spent an entire offseason program preparing (and losing a bunch of weight apparently) that he made the full-time switch to forward. 

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/15/2024 at 3:45 AM, Richard Noggin said:

Did Nic Deslauriers complete his conversion from D to LW before entering the Buffalo org? Wasn't he a D-man originally? I know it's not the same thing, exactly, but he immediately popped into my head. 

**Wikipedia page confirms that the LA organization first experimented with the LW transition in preseason, but it wasn't until Buffalo brought him in via trade later that season and then spent an entire offseason program preparing (and losing a bunch of weight apparently) that he made the full-time switch to forward. 

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Good one. I think you are right about DesLauriers. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

  On 11/14/2024 at 3:38 AM, Carmel Corn said:

 

Personally I detest the 7D lineup, but maybe somebody can help me understand why it is something worth considering?

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When you are short of centers, you can double shift one of the 3 other centers and maybe help a depth line add some scoring?

The 7th D also allows a coach to spread out the minutes early in the game so his top horses are fresher late.

[msw2112]

  On 11/14/2024 at 11:09 PM, PerreaultForever said:

I don't remember him but did he ever play D for them? If not he doesn't qualify 🙂

I'm thinking Val James might have been a D man who played wing as well but I'm not sure. I think Lee Fogolin had some wing time as well, much like Lindy was used. 

Lindy was actually a pretty bad D man when he started, which is why he was put on the wing to hit people as he had a lot of raw skill and size. 

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Yes, Marc-André Gragnani played both D and wing for the Sabres.  I'm pretty sure he started as a defenseman, they experimented with him on the wing, but I think that he ultimately went back to defense.  I remember him being a tall, lean guy, along the lines of a Dylan Cozens, and had some decent offensive ability for a defenseman and maybe they thought he could be a "power forward" type of guy.  In the end, he was one of those fringe AHL/NHL guys that got a fair number of callups and opportunities, but was never able to carve out a full-time role in the NHL.  I think he was one of the parade of defensemen that got called up and injured in that semi-final series against Carolina in 2006, which was the last time the Sabres had very realistic shot at winning the Cup.