GDT: Ottawa Senators @ Buffalo Sabres 7 PM ESPN+, MSG

[Doohicksie]

32 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

Sabres played playoff caliber hockey tonight. Now they just need to keep it going. 

Now let's see them do that against a playoff caliber team.  I didn't think Ottawa looked particularly impressive.

[shrader]

I’m not crazy about that BU on BU violence. Greenway better stop throwing clean hits. 

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29 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

Bryson.

[Doohicksie]

BU?

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, ... said:

Bryson.

don

You've heard me say it before:  Bryson is a good defenseman.  He's not a top Dman but he's continued to develop into a very smart defenseman.  I'm kind of okay with holding him in reserve; I think he might not hold up well playing night in, night out.  But occasionally injecting him into a stale lineup will give the team energy.  He's a perfect 20-30 game per year reservist.

[thewookie1]

1 minute ago, Doohicksie said:

You've heard me say it before:  Bryson is a good defenseman.  He's not a top Dman but he's continued to develop into a very smart defenseman.  I'm kind of okay with holding him in reserve; I think he might not hold up well playing night in, night out.  But occasionally injecting him into a stale lineup will give the team energy.  He's a perfect 20-30 game per year reservist.

I've said that for 2 years now 🙂

He's a great #7, he can't be a game in-game out guy but in spurts he's a solid and smart dman who can play either side and even on your 2nd pairing in a pinch.

[shrader]

30 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

BU?

Greenway-Tkachuk

[North Buffalo]

I'd bag skate them tomorrow to keep their heads outta the clouds... dont give them a break.

[Doohicksie]

6 minutes ago, shrader said:

Greenway-Tkachuk

But what does BU mean?

[PerreaultForever]

So there you go. They show us that they are capable of bringing the effort and playing decent hockey. Ruff just has to figure out how to get them to bring that every night on a consistent basis and not just every now and again. 

No complaints. That was entertaining hockey. 

I personally think Gilbert should stay in the line up. At least for a while. Quinn however, still needs to sit. Byram looked better 

[mjd1001]

1 minute ago, Doohicksie said:

But what does BU mean?

I believe Boston University

[Doohicksie]

Just now, mjd1001 said:

I believe Boston University

[jad1]

26 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

So there you go. They show us that they are capable of bringing the effort and playing decent hockey. Ruff just has to figure out how to get them to bring that every night on a consistent basis and not just every now and again. 

No complaints. That was entertaining hockey. 

I personally think Gilbert should stay in the line up. At least for a while. Quinn however, still needs to sit. Byram looked better 

They did play entertaining hockey, and played up to their talent.  But they did the same thing last year (they swept Vegas for example).  The problem with this group is that when they play at a high level, they believe they have it all figured out and quickly fall into bad habits.

They need grouchy, old-man  Ruff right now.  Forget that Thompson played a dominating game tonight, make the team watch his give-away that led to a 2-0 over and over.  Make him apologize in front of the team to UPL for hanging him out to dry. 

This team needs to be taught to hate making mistakes. As Ruff said, they need to be emotionally invested.  Tear down the old culture and build a new one.  Lindy coaching pissed is exactly what this team needs.

[Scottysabres]

40 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

I'd bag skate them tomorrow to keep their heads outta the clouds... dont give them a break.

Dam coach, your ruff........ 🤣 

[LTS]

Well that was nice.  Sitting outside with a drink in hand, by a fire, watching on TV was even better.

That said.. Dunleavy calling UPL "Ullmark" was killing me.

So.. they played a good game.  All I can say for the next game is:

[Kristian]

Wow, who’d have thought getting in the goalies face could produce goals??? Why hasn’t anyone told me this before????

[GASabresIUFAN]

Great game tonight.  Maybe the best 3rd period we played this season.  Now they have to build on it.  Best game Byram played as a Sabre.  

Zucker may end up being Adams best acquisition.  He has helped these kids grow up.  

Bryson and Gilbert out playing Joki and Samuelsson is still a bad look for Adams.

[JohnC]

Some quick thoughts on this game: UPL would get my first star. Tage and the first line looked really good. JJP has taken a step up and belongs on the first line. 

Collectively, the additions that KA brought in this offseason were positives. They give this team more tenacity and speed. 

Benson added a spark to the Cozens line. Cozens is putting himself in position to get chances. Simply not converting. Quinn is a major disappointment. He's invisible. He's like an athlete who has a major injury and isn't the same player the next year. There's no spark to his game. I was touting him to even be better than JJP and take the next step up. So far, I have been dead wrong. 

Our net presence on office was superb. Byram scored goals because of it. See what happens when you get your shots on net. 

As others have said, Bryson is a good utility defenseman. 

Greenway is a big player who plays big. He's a tough dude. Hist hits were clean and were knocking players off their feet. 

The players seemed to play with desperation throughout the game. There were few down periods and lapses. 

I'm not going to over-interpret this win. So far this season, Ottawa has been a horrible road team and a good home team. 

A win is a win. If the Sabres would have played with the same consistent effort in their other games, we would have at least two to three more wins. 

 

 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, jad1 said:

They did play entertaining hockey, and played up to their talent.  But they did the same thing last year (they swept Vegas for example).  The problem with this group is that when they play at a high level, they believe they have it all figured out and quickly fall into bad habits.

They need grouchy, old-man  Ruff right now.  Forget that Thompson played a dominating game tonight, make the team watch his give-away that led to a 2-0 over and over.  Make him apologize in front of the team to UPL for hanging him out to dry. 

This team needs to be taught to hate making mistakes. As Ruff said, they need to be emotionally invested.  Tear down the old culture and build a new one.  Lindy coaching pissed is exactly what this team needs.

Ya exactly. That's what I was getting at saying now Ruff has to get them to do this consistently. It's the long standing issue of not having a strong culture and a veteran locker room. These guys have never figured it out and they need to now, quickly. 

[LGR4GM]

8 hours ago, ... said:

This game. Finished cheques, not taking any guff, they're starting to get guys to the net. We need this every game.

And therein lies the problem.

Look, I'm happy they won. The pp actually looked real for a bit too. But until they play 4 out of every 5 like that, it's just a mirage. 

Quinn needs to sit. Not for 1 game either, more like for at least a week or more. Idk what is wearing his jersey but it's a completely different hockey player. 

If Bryson was Jokiharju size, he'd play every game. He's a smart, efficient defender. 

Zach Benson is going to start producing lots, soon. It's all there. 

Tage Thompson. He's back. 

 

[LGR4GM]

The McLeod line of veteran players is near perfect. Great example of why you don't just keep holding prospects because they might grow into a magic beanstalk eventually. Savoie trade was actually good. 

[SwampD]

17 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

And therein lies the problem.

Look, I'm happy they won. The pp actually looked real for a bit too. But until they play 4 out of every 5 like that, it's just a mirage. 

Quinn needs to sit. Not for 1 game either, more like for at least a week or more. Idk what is wearing his jersey but it's a completely different hockey player. 

If Bryson was Jokiharju size, he'd play every game. He's a smart, efficient defender. 

Zach Benson is going to start producing lots, soon. It's all there. 

Tage Thompson. He's back. 

 

We're also not going to get 2 quick leaky goals like that from good teams to change the tenor of the game.

Not much to take away from this game, for me, other than I'm glad they won.

[mjd1001]

47 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

And therein lies the problem.

Look, I'm happy they won. The pp actually looked real for a bit too. But until they play 4 out of every 5 like that, it's just a mirage. 

Quinn needs to sit. Not for 1 game either, more like for at least a week or more. Idk what is wearing his jersey but it's a completely different hockey player. 

If Bryson was Jokiharju size, he'd play every game. He's a smart, efficient defender. 

Zach Benson is going to start producing lots, soon. It's all there. 

Tage Thompson. He's back. 

 

Quinn and Cozens...I'm not going 100% here yet because it still is a bit early...but I'm starting to have some Cody Hodgson/Matt Moulson vibes with them.

2 guys with promise what, all of a sudden, just lost it. Maybe injury related, maybe something mentally.  Again, I'm not there yet but yesterday for the first time the thought of those 2 other guys popped in my head when watching Quinn and Cozens.

As for the rest of the game, the offense gave you a very good game, they have done that a couple times this year. The difference was you had your goalie who FINALLY played an excellent game behind them.

Edited November 6 by mjd1001

[mjd1001]

4 hours ago, JohnC said:

Benson added a spark to the Cozens line. Cozens is putting himself in position to get chances. Simply not converting. Quinn is a major disappointment. He's invisible. He's like an athlete who has a major injury and isn't the same player the next year. There's no spark to his game. I was touting him to even be better than JJP and take the next step up. So far, I have been dead wrong. 

 

 

 

As per my above post, it is early. Quinn is lost I don't know what to think about him, but I THINK Cozen is going to 'kinda' snap out of his shooting slump soon (I'm almost convinced he will not be a regular 30 goal scorer, but I still DO think you are going to get some years of 25 goals out of him, and some years of 15 out of him)

But as far as Benson.  If you think Benson is going to be a legit top 6 player on this team going forward and has the potential to put up decent goal numbers, at some point do you want to get him away from Cozens and Quinn?

There is the school of thought they have worked well together or their games may mesh, but a young guy, is there anything to him losing confidence in his offense production if he is dragged down by being part of a line like that?  Might he be better suited on a line with McLeod?

I'd Consider Benson with McLeod and Greenway.  Move Zucker with Quinn and Cozens. 

[Demoted]

Real question, if Levi was in goal would we have lost 6-5?

Edited November 6 by Demoted