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If you could just change one of the following, just one, which would you pick.....while everything else stays the same.  

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  1. 1. Which would you change?

    • Replace all the players on the current roster with 'average' (replacement level) players.
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    • Replace Lindy Ruff and the entire coaching staff with an 'average' coach and staff.
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    • Replace Kevin Adams and the entire front office with a generic, 'average' level GM
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    • Replace Terry Pegula with an 'average' NHL owner.
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As the question states, if you could change just one of the options but everything else stays the same what would you choose, just one.

If you pick a new coach, everything else around them stays the same.

If you pick a new GM they start with everything else around them the same (they may make trades eventually, but at least initially the start with the same coaching staff and roster.)

And by 'average' or 'replacement level', I mean what you get in return is someone who would be ranked as the 15th or 16th best in the league. Not great, not awful.

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2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

What does an average NHL owner mean?

My vote though is to replace Adams with an average GM.

An average own would be one that doesn't meddle. spends close to the cap but won't spend an obscene amount of money to have the best of everything (training facility, player benefits, etc). An owner who wants to be informed and get notified of any big trades, but will not necessarily be part of that entire process.

Basically an owner who is 'average' among all the owners in terms of time spent with the team, money spent on the roster money spent on facilities, money spent on staff, input he wants to make on decisions regarding all aspects of the team...seems to have an 'average' judge of character/ability in terms of hiring those under him...etc.

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2 hours ago, Weave said:

Any answer other than replace the owner makes me scratch my head in wonder.

Yep. They’ve tried every other option but one.

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Well, I'm not throwing Lindy over and I still have enough optimism about the players that I'm not willing to trade them for an average roster.  So that leaves TP and KA.

I think the Sabres have unquestionably gotten below-average GM'ing from KA.

For TP, I think it comes down to whether you think the average owner is substantially more likely than TP is to move the team or sell it to someone who will.  If the question assumes that the average owner is the same as TP on this point or better (i.e. less likely than TP to move the team or sell it to a pirate) -- then the answer has to be trading TP for the average owner, since the team has utterly fallen off the table on his watch.

If the question makes no assumptions about the average owner on this point, then I'll keep TP and trade KA, because my biggest ownership issue by far is franchise security, and #2 is willingness to spend to keep good players, and I have no doubts about TP in these areas, whereas I think the average owner would be much more suspect than TP on these.

YMMV, of course.

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2 hours ago, nfreeman said:

Well, I'm not throwing Lindy over and I still have enough optimism about the players that I'm not willing to trade them for an average roster.  So that leaves TP and KA.

I think the Sabres have unquestionably gotten below-average GM'ing from KA.

For TP, I think it comes down to whether you think the average owner is substantially more likely than TP is to move the team or sell it to someone who will.  If the question assumes that the average owner is the same as TP on this point or better (i.e. less likely than TP to move the team or sell it to a pirate) -- then the answer has to be trading TP for the average owner, since the team has utterly fallen off the table on his watch.

If the question makes no assumptions about the average owner on this point, then I'll keep TP and trade KA, because my biggest ownership issue by far is franchise security, and #2 is willingness to spend to keep good players, and I have no doubts about TP in these areas, whereas I think the average owner would be much more suspect than TP on these.

YMMV, of course.

I have watched so little of this team over the last 13 yrs that continued performance like this is functionally equivalent to the team moving for me.  I will take my chances.

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46 minutes ago, Weave said:

I have watched so little of this team over the last 13 yrs that continued performance like this is functionally equivalent to the team moving for me.  I will take my chances.

Agree, I have it on but my interest isn’t really there. 

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14 hours ago, Weave said:

I have watched so little of this team over the last 13 yrs that continued performance like this is functionally equivalent to the team moving for me.  I will take my chances.

I’ve watched All of it. I’ll still take my chances. I’d rather open up 246 hours a year of my life for other stuff.

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Not that anything but replacing the owner is an acceptable answer here but the first option is mis-worded as replacement level players are not "average". An average forward is a true 'middle six' forward or second pairing defenseman. Replacement level players are 13th forward/AHL types. 

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7 hours ago, TheAud said:

Not that anything but replacing the owner is an acceptable answer here but the first option is mis-worded as replacement level players are not "average". An average forward is a true 'middle six' forward or second pairing defenseman. Replacement level players are 13th forward/AHL types. 

That is by your definition. To me, 'replacement level' might me someone who gives me no more, nor any less, than average/typical, etc.

I don't think its worded incorrectly at all.  And even if it was, the meaning can be understood out of context.

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On 11/2/2024 at 3:28 PM, Night Train said:

Pegula needs to find another Beane type for hockey.

Adams ain't it..

Find him and leave him alone to run the hockey operations. 

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2 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

That is by your definition. To me, 'replacement level' might me someone who gives me no more, nor any less, than average/typical, etc.

I don't think its worded incorrectly at all.  And even if it was, the meaning can be understood out of context.

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I vote for the last two... but I dont see Pegula leaving so one can only hope he will luck in to competence like he did with Beane

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