JP51 Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 I was just admiring 3 Sabres in the top 15 in scoring in the NHL... not sure I have ever seen that.... unfortunately, none of them are on the Sabres... I know people call for trades all time.... No secret I want Adams fired... but in the end if he is going to be our GM do you trust him to make trades with our assets. I do not.. I don't want him to have any more input than needed to this roster as long as he is here... I am just wondering do people want or trust Adams with our assets to make trades... or are you in the please no more camp.... Quote
Stoner Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 He won't. He already has his new coaches spewing the losing culture. "We did some good things." Accountability? 1 Quote
Mango Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 No. I didn't want Adams to trade anybody last year. No more roster moves by Kevyn Adams please. Get somebody else in the role. 13 minutes ago, Stoner said: He won't. He already has his new coaches spewing the losing culture. "We did some good things." Accountability? That as super strange that they marched out Appert after practice and didn't make Lindy available, right? 2 Quote
Stoner Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 1 minute ago, Mango said: No. I didn't want Adams to trade anybody last year. No more roster moves by Kevyn Adams please. Get somebody else in the role. That as super strange that they marched out Appert after practice and didn't make Lindy available, right? I kinda missed that. Was there any explanation? 1 Quote
Taro T Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 13 minutes ago, Stoner said: He won't. He already has his new coaches spewing the losing culture. "We did some good things." Accountability? His new coach is also specifically calling out mistakes that they can't allow to happen and that he intends to fix. Spewing the losing culture? 6 Quote
Stoner Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 Just now, Taro T said: His new coach is also specifically calling out mistakes that they can't allow to happen and that he intends to fix. Spewing the losing culture? Yes. I'm the one who pointed out that Lindy had no time for Lance's whitewashing of the first period against the Panthers. But I also have no tolerance for the Granato esque pointing out of good things in a losing effort. Bag skate em! Again! Again! 1 Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 7 minutes ago, Mango said: No. I didn't want Adams to trade anybody last year. No more roster moves by Kevyn Adams please. Get somebody else in the role. That as super strange that they marched out Appert after practice and didn't make Lindy available, right? agreed 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: His new coach is also specifically calling out mistakes that they can't allow to happen and that he intends to fix. Spewing the losing culture? I am definately not anti Lindy, but he can only do so much with the culture that is pervasive... hopefully he can put his stamp on this travesty soon. Quote
Taro T Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 4 minutes ago, Stoner said: Yes. I'm the one who pointed out that Lindy had no time for Lance's whitewashing of the first period against the Panthers. But I also have no tolerance for the Granato esque pointing out of good things in a losing effort. Bag skate em! Again! Again! Considering Ruff DID call out the f'ups, not real upset with him also pointing out SOME positives in public. And, with the next game 4 days after the previous one, have no issue with a bag skate nor Ruff ripping into them after the game nor at the next meeting. Right now, the only real similarities between Granato and Ruff are that they both for some unbeknownst reason seem to think Seth Appert can run a PP. There's been no empirical evidence to date that he can at this level. 2 1 Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 1 minute ago, Taro T said: Considering Ruff DID call out the f'ups, not real upset with him also pointing out SOME positives in public. And, with the next game 4 days after the previous one, have no issue with a bag skate nor Ruff ripping into them after the game nor at the next meeting. Right now, the only real similarities between Granato and Ruff are that they both for some unbeknownst reason seem to think Seth Appert can run a PP. There's been no empirical evidence to date that he can at this level. I agree I think Ruff pretty much calls it straight... Granato was more in the I know we lost, but we had fun camp.... and thats all that really matters.. lets go for ice cream boys!! 3 Quote
LabattBlue Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 I vote for Adams to do absolutely nothing. He is a buffoon of an NHL GM, and doesn’t have a clue as to how to build an NHL team. The only move I vote for is to remove him from the position. 2 1 Quote
Idemo Buffalo Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 32 minutes ago, Stoner said: He won't. He already has his new coaches spewing the losing culture. "We did some good things." Accountability? That is funny. If you want to attack him on results, go ahead. A lack of accountability? Do you watch him speak after games? “We Have to Clean Up Those Mistakes” | Lindy Ruff After Loss to Florida https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuzJYWo4a3U 2 1 Quote
Stoner Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 I do. That's how I heard him talk about Good Things. I let one go early in the season. "We are snakebit." Really? Two games in? It's a losers lament. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 Can we fire Adams and get a real GM before redoing the roster? 1 2 3 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I vote for Adams to do absolutely nothing. He is a buffoon of an NHL GM, and doesn’t have a clue as to how to build an NHL team. The only move I vote for is to remove him from the position. Agreed.... but it seems we are stuck with him... I just pray he makes no more moves and doesnt set us back even farther. Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 18 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said: That is funny. If you want to attack him on results, go ahead. A lack of accountability? Do you watch him speak after games? “We Have to Clean Up Those Mistakes” | Lindy Ruff After Loss to Florida https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuzJYWo4a3U I do think he pretty much says it as he sees it... 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 44 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Can we fire Adams and get a real GM before redoing the roster? Firing Adams has to come with Pegula saying he is going to 'keep distance' from the franchise and let the new GM do his job...that he will just be a fan going forward. Until/unless that happens, you are going to likely get the same result with just a different name on the door. 2 2 Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Firing Adams has to come with Pegula saying he is going to 'keep distance' from the franchise and let the new GM do his job...that he will just be a fan going forward. Until/unless that happens, you are going to likely get the same result with just a different name on the door. Or having a new owner... but I agree... TP needs to find his person and stay away. Quote
Mr Peabody Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 Last week on XM Dave Pagnotta passed along a rumor that KA would take an operational position with Sabres and replaced as GM if the wheels fell off early this season. Only way that makes sense is if he wanted to play it back with our core and Karmanos voted for trades. I think KA makes it through the year regardless. 1 1 Quote
JP51 Posted October 30 Author Report Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, Mr Peabody said: Last week on XM Dave Pagnotta passed along a rumor that KA would take an operational position with Sabres and replaced as GM if the wheels fell off early this season. Only way that makes sense is if he wanted to play it back with our core and Karmanos voted for trades. I think KA makes it through the year regardless. That also scares me... get rid of adams and get Karmanos... another adams buddy and Pegula shill... we clearly need a completely new head office.. Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 Not me.... i am personally hoping to break 15 years with no playoff appearances..... 😋 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 I definitely think it's the right moment for a trade. Not a roster subtraction trade, but a prospects for a veteran winger trade for sure. There is a moment to be seized here but we have to find a way to be a little better than we are. In this division, only Florida is a dominant team. Everybody else has issues or is not that much better than us. Tampa and Toronto are arguably better but can be beat. Boston is horrible, Montreal is still in transition, Detroit and Ottawa are different to us but not better right now. A second line fix and this team can make the playoffs. We need a rugged winger to open up space for Cozens and Quinn. Quote
inkman Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Stoner said: He won't. He already has his new coaches spewing the losing culture. "We did some good things." Accountability? Quite frankly, it’s a tough task when your best players are the problem. Are they going to bench Dahlin, Quinn and Cozens? Maybe Quinn but they aren’t benching their “star players” to send a message. Kevyn probably hitched his cart to the wrong horses. Now more suffering… (hey Darcy!) Quote
Skibum Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 Id' like to see a trade, but I don't want Adams to be the guy who does it. Quote
matter2003 Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 3 hours ago, JP51 said: I was just admiring 3 Sabres in the top 15 in scoring in the NHL... not sure I have ever seen that.... unfortunately, none of them are on the Sabres... I know people call for trades all time.... No secret I want Adams fired... but in the end if he is going to be our GM do you trust him to make trades with our assets. I do not.. I don't want him to have any more input than needed to this roster as long as he is here... I am just wondering do people want or trust Adams with our assets to make trades... or are you in the please no more camp.... Probably weren't around in the early 90's with LaFontaine, Mogilny and Hawerchuk I take it? 1 Quote
SabreFinn Posted October 30 Report Posted October 30 There are a need to make trades, both on D and top 6, but I simply do not want Adams to be the guy who makes those trades. The Adams-special, trade away a C and not replacing with another decent caliber C, are trades that might never make him a GM again the day he leaves Sabres. 3 Quote
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