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https://x.com/LLysowski/status/1850159688974754007

Lance Lysowski on X: "We started a hockey podcast at @TheBuffaloNews Coming soon to Apple and Spotify. @ByMHarrington and I discussed the state of the Sabres, how they can become a consistent team and more: https://t.co/yoyM2vxD8i https://t.co/TvSupjYoHS" / X

 

Interesting. These two know their stuff and have some interesting opinions.  I love the Sabres Live guys, and some other hockey podcasts, but these guys do a good job of critiquing the Sabres when needed. 

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I guess that must mean the Maintenance Day podcast with Lance & Joe Yerdon is dead.  I listened to it from time to time and it was decent.  

For me, Lance is hard to listen to.  He talks out of his nose and sounds whiny at the same time. Not a voice for radio/podcasting. Harrington is surprisingly good conversationally as a guest on podcasts, but he is a blowhard with antiquated takes and no sources. 

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51 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I guess that must mean the Maintenance Day podcast with Lance & Joe Yerdon is dead.  I listened to it from time to time and it was decent.  

Joe and Lance have both hinted that Joe may continue on, but no real details on that yet. I liked maintenance day, but I don't like Lance enough to listen to Harrington. Sad to hear this news. 

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Maintenance Day is left for Joe Yerdon, who is supposed to be looking for a new co-host for it. I hope they put out episodes more than once every three months.

Think they will coming out on a weekly basis.  If they keep playing well they should be interesting. These guys have good access to the coach, front-office, and players. Not sure about the owner, but if the Sabres keep playing well I will not be shocked if Terry Pegula jumped on their podcast.  

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40 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

Think they will coming out on a weekly basis.  If they keep playing well they should be interesting. These guys have good access to the coach, front-office, and players. Not sure about the owner, but if the Sabres keep playing well I will not be shocked if Terry Pegula jumped on their podcast.  

Not super interested in anything he has to say.

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12 hours ago, SDS said:

Not super interested in anything he has to say.

Not interested in the opinion of a guy who kept the two professional sports team in Buffalo, or the guy who has the Bills in the playoffs every year, or the guy who is building a new stadium and is upgrading the arena?  The Sabres and Bills have now combined for 7 straight winning seasons.  The Bills did not make the playoffs for 17 straight years and now they have won 4 AFC East titles in a row.  There is no reason to think the Sabres won't start being an Atlantic powerhouse that makes the playoffs every year.  They are young, have a ton of talent, and finally found a coach. Future is very bright.

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13 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

Think they will coming out on a weekly basis.  If they keep playing well they should be interesting. These guys have good access to the coach, front-office, and players. Not sure about the owner, but if the Sabres keep playing well I will not be shocked if Terry Pegula jumped on their podcast.  

Come on man.  These guys have the same “good” access as any other media member.  

Terry and the News have a history and I don’t think he would ever be anywhere near their outlet.  

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14 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

Not interested in the opinion of a guy who kept the two professional sports team in Buffalo, or the guy who has the Bills in the playoffs every year, or the guy who is building a new stadium and is upgrading the arena?  The Sabres and Bills have now combined for 7 straight winning seasons.  The Bills did not make the playoffs for 17 straight years and now they have won 4 AFC East titles in a row.  There is no reason to think the Sabres won't start being an Atlantic powerhouse that makes the playoffs every year.  They are young, have a ton of talent, and finally found a coach. Future is very bright.

This is all crazy talk.  The Sabres and Bills have combined for 0 straight winning seasons under Pegula.   ZERO.  

Taxpayers are building the new stadium.  

The Sabres finally found a coach?    He found the guy that he fired.  The future might be bright as long as Terry stays far away from Hockey Operations.  

If he shows up on a podcast, please ask him when the Sabres can spend to the cap. The teams lack of resources are certainly on him.  

 

 

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40 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

The Sabres and Bills have combined for 0 straight winning seasons under Pegula

The Sabres did have a winning season in 22-23, so Bills and Sabres combined for 3 straight winning seasons at that point.

Of course, last season they only won 39 of 82 games, so there goes that streak.

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39 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

This is all crazy talk.  The Sabres and Bills have combined for 0 straight winning seasons under Pegula.   ZERO.  

Taxpayers are building the new stadium.  

The Sabres finally found a coach?    He found the guy that he fired.  The future might be bright as long as Terry stays far away from Hockey Operations.  

If he shows up on a podcast, please ask him when the Sabres can spend to the cap. The teams lack of resources are certainly on him.  

 

 

A. The Bills have had five straight winning seasons.  The Sabres have had 2 straight winning seasons.  So I will say that is 7 straight, but definitely not ZERO.

B. The Taxpayers are paying for $850M of the Stadium. As the governor said, they state gets back substantially more over the 30 year period, just in taxes on salaries. That doesn't include all the hotels, restaurants, construction, etc jobs. 

C. He found a guy who has taken team to the Stanley Cup finals and the playoffs, multiple times. 

D. The Sabres have only $8M available under the cap and are young. The roster/cap is very well constructed for a young team with players that are going to need to be paid at some point.

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2 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

The Sabres did have a winning season in 22-23, so Bills and Sabres combined for 3 straight winning seasons at that point.

Of course, last season they only won 39 of 82 games, so there goes that streak.

Last year they were 39-37-6. Year before they were 42-33-7. You can spin those as winning seasons if you are a positive person, and will spin those as losing seasons if you are a negative person. I like to think of both of them as winning seasons. 

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16 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

Last year they were 39-37-6. Year before they were 42-33-7. You can spin those as winning seasons if you are a positive person, and will spin those as losing seasons if you are a negative person. I like to think of both of them as winning seasons. 

A winning season is a season where you win more than you lose. There's no spinning to be done here. Winning 39 and losing 43 is, by definition, a losing season.

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3 hours ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

A. The Bills have had five straight winning seasons.  The Sabres have had 2 straight winning seasons.  So I will say that is 7 straight, but definitely not ZERO.

B. The Taxpayers are paying for $850M of the Stadium. As the governor said, they state gets back substantially more over the 30 year period, just in taxes on salaries. That doesn't include all the hotels, restaurants, construction, etc jobs. 

C. He found a guy who has taken team to the Stanley Cup finals and the playoffs, multiple times. 

D. The Sabres have only $8M available under the cap and are young. The roster/cap is very well constructed for a young team with players that are going to need to be paid at some point.

A.  The Bills are good thanks to McDermott and Beane and are not part of the discussion.  The Sabres have had one season over .500 and still failed to make the playoffs.   That is not a winning season in anybody's book but yours.   I stick with ZERO winning seasons since the drought that Pegula created.  

B.  The state of New York and Erie County will pay $850 million, with $600 million from New York and $250 million from Erie County. This is the largest taxpayer contribution ever for an NFL facility.    The state might eventually recover some of it, depending on inflation and other factors (time value of money).  Pegula certainly has the money to pay for the stadium, but he didn't "drill another well".   

C.  He fired the hockey coach who led them to ONE Stanley Cup final, under a prior owner and GM, and then he came groveling back to him because he is incapable of conducting an effective job search for the Sabres.  

D.  The Sabres are under the cap again.  In yet another pivotal "must win" season.   We shall see how it works out.  

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3 hours ago, Pimlach said:

This is all crazy talk.  The Sabres and Bills have combined for 0 straight winning seasons under Pegula.   ZERO.  

Taxpayers are building the new stadium.  

The Sabres finally found a coach?    He found the guy that he fired.  The future might be bright as long as Terry stays far away from Hockey Operations.  

If he shows up on a podcast, please ask him when the Sabres can spend to the cap. The teams lack of resources are certainly on him.  

 

 

Yeah Pegula hasn't ever spent to the cap.  The teams lack of resources is on you too.

 

You wouldn't care if the team left Buffalo.  You're disqualified from these comments.

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11 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

A.  The Bills are good thanks to McDermott and Beane and are not part of the discussion.  The Sabres have had one season over .500 and still failed to make the playoffs.   That is not a winning season in anybody's book but your yours.   I stick with ZERO winning seasons since the drought that Pegula created.  

B.  The state of New York and Erie County will pay $850 million, with $600 million from New York and $250 million from Erie County. This is the largest taxpayer contribution ever for an NFL facility.    The state might eventually recover some of it, depending on inflation and other factors (time value of money).  Pegula certainly has the money to pay for the stadium, but he didn't "drill another well".   

C.  He fired the hockey coach who led them to ONE Stanley Cup final, under a prior owner and GM, and then he came groveling back to him because he is incapable of conducting an effective job search for the Sabres.  

D.  The Sabres are under the cap again.  In yet another pivotal "must win" season.   We shall see how it works out.  

Do you ever get tired repeated the same exact comments?  It's so boring.  It's like the only thing you like, is this post.

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3 hours ago, JujuFish said:

A winning season is a season where you win more than you lose. There's no spinning to be done here. Winning 39 and losing 43 is, by definition, a losing season.

I think he just learned that the third number is a loss.

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1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

 

B.  The state of New York and Erie County will pay $850 million, with $600 million from New York and $250 million from Erie County. This is the largest taxpayer contribution ever for an NFL facility.    The state might eventually recover some of it, depending on inflation and other factors (time value of money).  Pegula certainly has the money to pay for the stadium, but he didn't "drill another well".   

 

I don't care if you like Hochul or not, be she explains it here.  She is 100% correct. The Bills were gone if the money was not kicked in and the state gets their money back just in taxes on player salaries in 17 years or earlier with how quickly salaries are increasing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZjNchbiOVQ

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4 hours ago, JujuFish said:

The Sabres did have a winning season in 22-23, so Bills and Sabres combined for 3 straight winning seasons at that point.

Of course, last season they only won 39 of 82 games, so there goes that streak.

I was answering the term "combined winning seasons" - as in both teams have a winning season.   I was thinking playoffs too.

Yes, technically, the Sabres were over .500 in 22-23 and I stand corrected - but playoffs is what I consider the minimum for a successful season.  

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30 minutes ago, Idemo Buffalo said:

I don't care if you like Hochul or not, be she explains it here.  She is 100% correct. The Bills were gone if the money was not kicked in and the state gets their money back just in taxes on player salaries in 17 years or earlier with how quickly salaries are increasing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZjNchbiOVQ

I don't blame the state and county for funding the stadium.  I think it was in the best interest of WNY, although non-football fans might not agree.   

I don't think you should say "Terry built the stadium" when the tax payers carried a very big load.  Biggest in NFL history so far.  

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1 hour ago, 7+6=13 said:

Do you ever get tired repeated the same exact comments?  It's so boring.  It's like the only thing you like, is this post.

I was answering another posters 4 points.  Some of it may be repeat information but most of it is a new topic.  

You can put me on ignore.  That would be your  best solution.  

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1 hour ago, 7+6=13 said:

Yeah Pegula hasn't ever spent to the cap.  The teams lack of resources is on you too.

 

You wouldn't care if the team left Buffalo.  You're disqualified from these comments.

We have not spent to the cap in how long?

This is one of your worst posts, and that takes some doing.  You clearly have reading comprehension issues if you think I want this team to leave Buffalo.  

I care deeply for the team and would hate seeing them leave.   I am on record on that.   

I am not an apologist for the poor leadership that has plagued this franchise since Terry took over. If you are happy with the past 13 years so be it. 

 

 

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A few things. Tom Golisano has repeatedly said the Sabres were not for sale when Pegula approached him about purchasing them. It is also well documented that there is a non relocation clause contained in the sale contract.  Tim Graham was the reporter who had the best sources during the Bills Sale Process, reported that any potential buyer who was interested in moving the franchise out of WNY was politely told that was not going to happen. Tom Golisano was asked about his interest  purchasing the Bills and his response was I will step in if was no other option to keep the team in Buffalo, the very reason he purchased the Sabres in the first place. 
 

There have been multiple articles on how there is little to no benefit to public funding of sports stadiums to taxpayers.  This is a necessary evil for small markets if they want pro sports franchises.  That being said let’s not micturate on taxpayers leg and tell them it’s raining. Although I do fully expect the building of a smaller version of Patriots Place on the site of the current ECC South Campus, let’s be real. The current stadium opened 50 years ago and there has been almost zero development in the surrounding area. 

 

In terms of the team being young as a reason for not spending more towards the cap, they were even younger after the 2022-23 season when the missed the playoffs by one point. Since then there two full off-seasons when they have not spend anywhere near the cap. Expected Buffalo,  Matthew Fairburn from the Athletic and Joe Marino have all put together realistic contracts for the Sabres pending RFAs this summer, which would leave them ample cap space moving forward. This doesn’t even include the possibility of the cap rising even more than 4 million next season. Besides the most competitive teams in the league are very creative and have little trouble managing the salary cap. 

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