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GDT: Buffalo Sabres vs Columbus Blue Jackets 10/17/24 --ESPN + and MSG!


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Buck up people, we got another one tonight. Tough loss yesterday but that's life. Long season, get back in there and fight!

 

Buffalo Sabres (1-3-1, in the Atlantic Division) vs. Columbus Blue Jackets (1-2, in the Metropolitan Division)

Columbus, Ohio; Thursday, 7 p.m. EDT

SPORTSBOOK LINE: Sabres -127, Blue Jackets +107; over/under is 6.5

BOTTOM LINE: The Buffalo Sabres visit the Columbus Blue Jackets after John-Jason Peterka's two-goal game against the Pittsburgh Penguins in the Sabres' 6-5 overtime loss.

Columbus went 27-43-12 overall and 17-19-5 in home games a season ago. The Blue Jackets scored 234 goals while giving up 298 for a -64 goal differential last season.

Buffalo is 1-3-1 overall and 0-1-1 on the road. The Sabres have a -5 scoring differential, with 13 total goals scored and 18 allowed.

Thursday's game is the first time these teams square off this season.

TOP PERFORMERS: Zachary Werenski has scored two goals for the Blue Jackets. Adam Fantilli has over the past 10 games.

Jason Zucker has three assists for the Sabres. Zachary Benson has over the past 10 games.

LAST 10 GAMES: Blue Jackets: 1-2-0, averaging 1.1 goals, 1.9 assists, 1.1 penalties and 2.2 penalty minutes while giving up 1.1 goals per game.

Sabres: 1-3-1, averaging 1.3 goals, 1.8 assists, 2.4 penalties and seven penalty minutes while giving up 1.6 goals per game.

INJURIES: Blue Jackets: None listed.

Sabres: None listed.

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We've preached accountability all offseason from the coaches to the players, if this is true we should see Dylan Cozens benched and Kulich get the opportunity at 2nd or 3rd line C tonight correct? Otherwise I feel like we are on the exact same trajectory as last season coaching-wise.

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

If they lose tonight, Adams needs to replaced. Karmanos needs to immediately seek a trade for a real top 6 forward. 

There is no way this isn’t schtick.  

 

39 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said:

We've preached accountability all offseason from the coaches to the players, if this is true we should see Dylan Cozens benched and Kulich get the opportunity at 2nd or 3rd line C tonight correct? Otherwise I feel like we are on the exact same trajectory as last season coaching-wise.

Who’s we?  I don’t know if I’ve heard anyone from the team say anything about accountability.  This is just armchair coach speak. 

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42 minutes ago, inkman said:

There is no way this isn’t schtick.  

 

Who’s we?  I don’t know if I’ve heard anyone from the team say anything about accountability.  This is just armchair coach speak. 

Uh that was the entire end of season presser from just about every single player. Coach Lindy Ruff talked at nauseum about it in his introductory speech. What rock have you been under?

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4 minutes ago, inkman said:

We’re winning the math!! 

Don't kid yourself. These nerds who could never win in gym class are coming for your W's. They have every intention of being the deciders of who the best teams/champions are. 5-2 will be a thing of the past soon enough. .2789% will carry the day. Declaring a winner based on scoring of goals is arbitrary, capricious and hurtful.

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6 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Don't kid yourself. These nerds who could never win in gym class are coming for your W's. They have every intention of being the deciders of who the best teams/champions are. 5-2 will be a thing of the past soon enough. .2789% will carry the day. Declaring a winner based on scoring of goals is arbitrary, capricious and hurtful.

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8 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Don't kid yourself. These nerds who could never win in gym class are coming for your W's. They have every intention of being the deciders of who the best teams/champions are. 5-2 will be a thing of the past soon enough. .2789% will carry the day. Declaring a winner based on scoring of goals is arbitrary, capricious and hurtful.

Advanced analytics are useful in some evaluations, they can add 'color' to the picture.  The problem I have with them is when someone tries really really hard to come up with just a couple numbers, or a handful of numbers, to prove a point.

-The 'eye test' doesn't always work, but SOMETIMES it is enough.

-Simple stats don't always tell the whole story (Goals, assists, shots on goal, plus-minus) but they do tell part of a story and should not just be thrown away.  

-Advanced stats, well, In my opinion, they are no worse, but not any better than either of the above.

If I SEE something with my eyes, can I back it up with some kind of data, (analytics or simple stats), or if I see something else with my eyes, can I disprove it with some kind of data?  Even if you can do that, it shouldn't be the end of the story. It shouldn't do anymore than open up a larger discussion about the game, the style of play, the player, etc.

I think good teams do that. They use simple stats, analytics, AND coaching/eye tests together.  Sometimes it gets annoying when the 'math nerds' just throw out analytics and say "there, we are right, you are wrong, deal with it"

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

If they lose tonight, Adams needs to replaced. Karmanos needs to immediately seek a trade for a real top 6 forward. 

What are you moving for that top 6 player? If Quinn or Benson aren’t part of the package, what are you doing with one of them?  4th line?  Press box?  

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2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

If they lose tonight, Adams needs to replaced. Karmanos needs to immediately seek a trade for a real top 6 forward. 

That day may come sooner than you think. Terry was liking sarcastic FB comments on the Lindy postgame presser last night.

I’m not even kidding 🤣

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57 minutes ago, Stoner said:

Don't kid yourself. These nerds who could never win in gym class are coming for your W's. They have every intention of being the deciders of who the best teams/champions are. 5-2 will be a thing of the past soon enough. .2789% will carry the day. Declaring a winner based on scoring of goals is arbitrary, capricious and hurtful.

The basic message of the earlier post is that the 0% powerplay is hurting the team.  Do you really have an issue with that statement?

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