Jordan Greenway

[PerreaultForever]

Another thing to keep in mind is Minnesota soured on him for that inconsistency which made him into a tweener and not really anything special. Showing up for EVERY game has to become a thing for him (and many other Sabres). 

[Two or less]

2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Another thing to keep in mind is Minnesota soured on him for that inconsistency which made him into a tweener and not really anything special. Showing up for EVERY game has to become a thing for him (and many other Sabres). 

 

Exactly. In my opinion, Greenway has been our best player so far this season but i don't think Lindy has uncovered anything. Greenway had moments such as hes had this season for Granato as well. He also had moments like this in Minnesota as well. The issue with Greenway has always been consistency.

This being his contract year, i wonder if it's Lindy getting that out of him or if it's his impending free agency?

[SABRES 0311]

Greenway seems to be unleashed this year. A true power forward with scoring capability, he uses his size to prevent defenders from pushing him from in front of the net. I’d say he has average hands and embraces the fact his best chance of scoring is within five feet of the net.

Defensively he is like a much bigger Benson. He sticks with the play and doesn’t let a puck carrier go without taking a hit. Aside from the once in a while goal, his physicality has the potential to motivate teammates and make opponents rush their puck movement.

[French Collection]

3 hours ago, Two or less said:

 

Exactly. In my opinion, Greenway has been our best player so far this season but i don't think Lindy has uncovered anything. Greenway had moments such as hes had this season for Granato as well. He also had moments like this in Minnesota as well. The issue with Greenway has always been consistency.

This being his contract year, i wonder if it's Lindy getting that out of him or if it's his impending free agency?

My guess would be his pending UFA status is the big motivation for him this season. How many players have had their best seasons in that scenario?

Whatever his motivation, a career year from him would definitely help the cause.

[Stoner]

Because he scored a goal? OK.

[mjd1001]

5 hours ago, Stoner said:

Because he scored a goal? OK.

-he's a positive player on a negative team.

-he's 2nd on the team in hits

-he leads the team in time on ice shorthanded, the team has only allowed 1 shorthanded goal with him on the ice and it wasn't a result of something he did

-his advanced skating metrics are all in the top 30-35% of entire league

-the eye test, he is noticable on the forcheck. He is engaging, not in fights, but showing up in scrums.  He is tying up D-man in front of the net and across the offensive zone.

-The coach singled him out in training camp AND again during the season for his play, how hard he is working, etc. (and Ruff has NOT done that with every player on the team, only a handful in press conferences but he has done it with Greenway).

 

Edited October 14 by mjd1001

[JustOneParade]

Frankly, if a guy is only motivated to play hard every night because its a contract year, I don't want him on my team. (NOT suggesting that's the case with Greenway).

[#freejame]

The people wanting Greenway extended right away—throw out a term. 

[nfreeman]

3 hours ago, Stoner said:

Because he scored a goal? OK.

Now you're just being contrary.

Did you watch the game vs Florida?  If so, you'd know that Greenie did much more than score a goal.

[msw2112]

54 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

Now you're just being contrary.

Did you watch the game vs Florida?  If so, you'd know that Greenie did much more than score a goal.

The FLA game was the only one I've seen so far and Greenway definitely looked good in that game, aside from the goal he scored.  If he's played that way all season, that's great.  He also had some great games under Granato where he was very effective on the PK and forecheck, but, as stated here, his performance was inconsistent - pretty much like the rest of the team the last couple of seasons.  Word beaters some nights, lethargic on others.  All teams in all sports have some level of inconsistency, but the Sabres under Granato took it to the extreme.  Let's hope that Ruff can coach that out of them.  Having only seen one game, I'm not in a good position to assess.

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, msw2112 said:

The FLA game was the only one I've seen so far and Greenway definitely looked good in that game, aside from the goal he scored.  If he's played that way all season, that's great.  He also had some great games under Granato where he was very effective on the PK and forecheck, but, as stated here, his performance was inconsistent - pretty much like the rest of the team the last couple of seasons.  Word beaters some nights, lethargic on others.  All teams in all sports have some level of inconsistency, but the Sabres under Granato took it to the extreme.  Let's hope that Ruff can coach that out of them.  Having only seen one game, I'm not in a good position to assess.

There is one thing I'll agree with. He had some very good games last year also...not any worse than he is playing this year.  Just last year he disappeared for weeks at a time.  The team hasn't played long enough for him to do that.

If he doesn't have those stretches where you don't notice him, if he plays consistently, THAT will be the sign that his game as taken a step forward.

With him, you get that you are getting, his game-to-game play is probably at its ceiling. The way he can improve is by not having as may 'off' games.

[Flashsabre]

Greenway is a guy who needs a Coach like Ruff kicking his a$$ to get the most out of him. Hopefully he has a big year

[In The Buff]

Jordan has been a bright spot for sure. But I'd slow the roll on any extension, at least for now. Jordan's not doing anything special, other than his job. He's simply playing how EVERYONE should be playing. Giving forth effort, getting to the front of the net & competing out there. I think he stands out currently because its that type of play that we've been sorely lacking for a long time. Just simple hard work & effort. To me its more of an indictment on the woes of this team & its makeup, for many to look at Jordan Greenway & start talking about extensions lol. He played a few games where he skated hard & went to the net. We dont ask for much do we? (We really dont). But if he keeps it up sure, extend him. In the more short term: hopefully his play inspires others to work hard & go to the net as well. Its been obvious for years that its what we need to do to be tougher to play against. And now finally we have someone who has done it for a few games! Keep it up!

[mjd1001]

31 minutes ago, In The Buff said:

Jordan has been a bright spot for sure. But I'd slow the roll on any extension, at least for now. Jordan's not doing anything special, other than his job. He's simply playing how EVERYONE should be playing. Giving forth effort, getting to the front of the net & competing out there. I think he stands out currently because its that type of play that we've been sorely lacking for a long time. Just simple hard work & effort. To me its more of an indictment on the woes of this team & its makeup, for many to look at Jordan Greenway & start talking about extensions lol. He played a few games where he skated hard & went to the net. We dont ask for much do we? (We really dont). But if he keeps it up sure, extend him. In the more short term: hopefully his play inspires others to work hard & go to the net as well. Its been obvious for years that its what we need to do to be tougher to play against. And now finally we have someone who has done it for a few games! Keep it up!

Rob Ray was talking about his playing career and why he kept on signing one year contracts. I remember he said something like between every offseason the Sabres would say to him "we want you back, we'll give you 1 year, go out there and look around and see if you can get something better, but we want you back for one year at a time".

Now, Greenway is better overall than Ray was. You probably don't want to just offer him below what he is making, one year at a time. But, as you said, you don't need to overpay.  Tell him you like him. In the offseason give him a fair offer. But if he gets 'overpayed', its not like he is a player that cannot be replaced.

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

 

Now, Greenway is better overall than Ray was. You probably don't want to just offer him below what he is making, one year at a time. But, as you said, you don't need to overpay.  Tell him you like him. In the offseason give him a fair offer. But if he gets 'overpayed', its not like he is a player that cannot be replaced.

There are a variety of roles that a good team needs to be successful. From a hockey skills standpoint, there is nothing special about him. He's certainly not a very fast or quick skater. But he makes up for that deficiency by his sound positional play.  As a shooter, he certainly is not a sniper. But his value lies with his size and willingness to play big. He's not just a big fellow but a rugged player on a team that in recent history has been too finesse oriented. His brand of physical play is something that this roster has needed for a long time. 

As you smartly noted, he's not the type of player/talent that you should overpay; but he is the type of player you want on your roster to better round it out. Without question, so far, he has not only been one of our better players but also one of our most consistent players. He is definitely a Lindy player. 

[Pimlach]

On 10/14/2024 at 10:15 AM, Stoner said:

Because he scored a goal? OK.

He threw a big hit on Verhaghe and no one on Florida said boo.  Most Sabres last season would have been confronted for that.  

He is a defense first guy that has some ok hands and offensive skills.  Ruff can maximize his ability.  His only knock is he goes quiet for extended periods of time, that has to change.  That is the one concern on extending him in my opinion.  

[bob_sauve28]

 

[Believer]

On 10/14/2024 at 11:37 AM, #freejame said:

The people wanting Greenway extended right away—throw out a term. 

Greenway came over from MN with a contract worth $9M for 3 years.

If he expresses a desire to remain in Buffalo?

$15M for 3 years.

 

 

[LGR4GM]

27 minutes ago, Believer said:

Greenway came over from MN with a contract worth $9M for 3 years.

If he expresses a desire to remain in Buffalo?

$15M for 3 years.

 

 

God no. 

Maybe if he plays all season like last game, then sure

[JP51]

This is a trade Kevyn Adams would clearly look to do... I can hear in his head right now... Hmmmm.... lets find a guy with some size and skill that knows his role and performs it absoultely Must trade him... gotta do it... dont want people on this team good in the corners or who will back check... and get to the tough areas... he's gotta go... Lets trade him and get a player like VO back!!  I am sorry but I believe this in my soul. 

[LGR4GM]

20 minutes ago, JP51 said:

This is a trade Kevyn Adams would clearly look to do... I can hear in his head right now... Hmmmm.... lets find a guy with some size and skill that knows his role and performs it absoultely Must trade him... gotta do it... dont want people on this team good in the corners or who will back check... and get to the tough areas... he's gotta go... Lets trade him and get a player like VO back!!  I am sorry but I believe this in my soul. 

So your theory is the guy who traded for Greenway and didn't re- sign olofsson, would trade Greenway for a player like olofsson? 🤔 

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36 minutes ago, JP51 said:

This is a trade Kevyn Adams would clearly look to do... I can hear in his head right now... Hmmmm.... lets find a guy with some size and skill that knows his role and performs it absoultely Must trade him... gotta do it... dont want people on this team good in the corners or who will back check... and get to the tough areas... he's gotta go... Lets trade him and get a player like VO back!!  I am sorry but I believe this in my soul. 

[bob_sauve28]

7 hours ago, Believer said:

Greenway came over from MN with a contract worth $9M for 3 years.

If he expresses a desire to remain in Buffalo?

$15M for 3 years.

 

 

Ya, I'd say that's tad bit high as of now. I think he is excellent but let's see some more 

[bob_sauve28]

 

[Night Train]

and we're back with another Greenway goal...