ska-T Palmtown Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 Four Super Bowls (I hope the NFL does not come after me for typing that) and "no goal" have left me emotionally hollow when it comes to sports. While the Sabres' inability to be truly competitive is not ideal, I'd say it hits just above the mild disappointment of finding the box of Oreos in the cabinet to only have 2 left, when you had a real hankerin' for 3. 🤷♂️ Quote
ska-T Palmtown Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 7 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Self fulfilling prophecy then if that's the case. You either want to win or you don't. Every year you really should be trying to make your team the best team possible and not really worrying too much about contracts down the line and too much future planning. If you don't start winning you don't create an environment players will want to come to. Now nobody says trade away all your picks and prospects, but leaving holes and thinking about next year and the next year just leads to more losing. Yeah, that is pretty much what I was thinking. X is better than Y at what I need TODAY, but Y might be better at that thing (or something else that maybe I don't need?) later ... so I will go without whatever I need because I don't want to see someone else have it better. I am not often outwardly critical of a coach or GM - I am sure their jobs are way harder than any of us give them credit for - but goooooooottttttt dammmmm, it does seem like GMKA just can't get it right. 😞 1 Quote
JohnC Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 16 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I'm not disagreeing with you, and I've been pretty consistent on spending to the cap and using some prospects/picks at this stage as assets to be traded for veteran on the roster players. I'm just suggesting Adams might be trying to do a lot more than we think but is failing not for trying but for no move clauses and similar related things. You need to stop rubbing. There are certainly obstacles that a GM from Buffalo faces that many other GMs face because of its earned second-rate reputation. Let's be blunt and not complicate the measuring stick for sports i.e. the record. KA seems like a good and a sincere fellow. He's been in the stewardship chair now for more than a few years. Systemic mediocrity is not a challenge to identify. What you see is what you get. It's sad. Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 Wash, rinse, repeat. Another year of Buffalo sports. Quote
Demoted Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 (edited) 16 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I'm not disagreeing with you, and I've been pretty consistent on spending to the cap and using some prospects/picks at this stage as assets to be traded for veteran on the roster players. I'm just suggesting Adams might be trying to do a lot more than we think but is failing not for trying but for no move clauses and similar related things. You need to stop rubbing. I am not about to deal with hypotheticals until their is proof of any these excuses, they do not matter. Edited October 11 by Demoted Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 Hopium gone. Optimism gone. I’m trying to stay positive, but the mental gymnastics aren’t coming together. You can try to blame it on a new system, or the oddity of the Prague series, or Dahlin/Peterka injuries, or getting goalie’d last night, or no puck luck…whatever. I don’t have the patience I once did. If they go 0-4, the tune-out of this team is going to be massive. So yea, not feeling good at all. This. Team. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 7 hours ago, ska-T Chitown said: Yeah, that is pretty much what I was thinking. X is better than Y at what I need TODAY, but Y might be better at that thing (or something else that maybe I don't need?) later ... so I will go without whatever I need because I don't want to see someone else have it better. I am not often outwardly critical of a coach or GM - I am sure their jobs are way harder than any of us give them credit for - but goooooooottttttt dammmmm, it does seem like GMKA just can't get it right. 😞 Coaching is hard but I think also fun. I'm not sure I'd agree that GM is all that hard of a job. I think there's people on this very forum that could do a better job than Adams. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 11 Report Posted October 11 7 hours ago, JohnC said: There are certainly obstacles that a GM from Buffalo faces that many other GMs face because of its earned second-rate reputation. Let's be blunt and not complicate the measuring stick for sports i.e. the record. KA seems like a good and a sincere fellow. He's been in the stewardship chair now for more than a few years. Systemic mediocrity is not a challenge to identify. What you see is what you get. It's sad. What makes you think Adams is a sincere person? I think we have seen many blatant lies (eg. interviewing multiple coaches). I see him as an indecisive yes man who has no clear plan. He's the Michael Scott of the NHL. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 9 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: What makes you think Adams is a sincere person? I think we have seen many blatant lies (eg. interviewing multiple coaches). I see him as an indecisive yes man who has no clear plan. He's the Michael Scott of the NHL. Michael Scott was sincere Quote
JohnC Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 17 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: What makes you think Adams is a sincere person? I think we have seen many blatant lies (eg. interviewing multiple coaches). I see him as an indecisive yes man who has no clear plan. He's the Michael Scott of the NHL. People in his position can't always candidly say what they think. That's the nature of the position more than the nature of the person. I just think that he is a person the befuddled owner plucked from the business operation to act on his behalf. Both the owner and GM are in over their heads. Their records loudly speak for itself. 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 12 Report Posted October 12 On 10/9/2024 at 3:55 PM, Stoner said: And I feel fine. Quote
mjd1001 Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 (edited) On 10/11/2024 at 3:58 PM, PerreaultForever said: What makes you think Adams is a sincere person? I think we have seen many blatant lies (eg. interviewing multiple coaches). I see him as an indecisive yes man who has no clear plan. He's the Michael Scott of the NHL. I have 2 hills I can die on with the Sabres. Cozens is awful is the first. The second one is, Pegula is the problem, and maybe one of the last 6 coaches or 4 GM's could succeed here if he wouldn't be so involved. Most criticism Adams gets, well, I think he is a 'yes man' to Pegula and is there to take the arrows for Pegula when things go bad. Pegula probably wanted Lindy back and Adams had to make up something because Pegula didn't want him to say "Terry wants Lindy so that is why he is back". My suspicion is that Cozens got that $7m per season deal because Terry wanted it done after seeing him have one decent year. Again, no proof, but I am pretty honest even Adams would have this team in a better situation if it wasn't for Pegula and how he is as an owner. Edited October 18 by mjd1001 Quote
zow2 Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 21 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Again, no proof, but I am pretty honest even Adams would have this team in a better situation if it wasn't for Pegula and how he is as an owner. I can’t even quantify what exactly Pegula has done, other then he’s a curse on the Sabres. I know he wants to win, but the fact this organization is going to go 13 years or whatever as a non-playoff team is stunningly awful. This is a league designed to have all its members cycle through the playoffs every 2-3, maybe 4 years at most. (and every year for the lucky ones like Caps, Bruins, Lightning, Knights, Rangers, Leafs, Panthers, Etc). Never in a million years did Bettman or anyone else think a team would miss the playoffs for an entire generation of fans. For the 100th time…Sell the team Terry, please. 1 Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 https://media.tenor.com/v3bhS4qAPEsAAAAM/feeling-nothing-feeling-empty.gif 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I have 2 hills I can die on with the Sabres. Cozens is awful is the first. The second one is, Pegula is the problem, and maybe one of the last 6 coaches or 4 GM's could succeed here if he wouldn't be so involved. Most criticism Adams gets, well, I think he is a 'yes man' to Pegula and is there to take the arrows for Pegula when things go bad. Pegula probably wanted Lindy back and Adams had to make up something because Pegula didn't want him to say "Terry wants Lindy so that is why he is back". My suspicion is that Cozens got that $7m per season deal because Terry wanted it done after seeing him have one decent year. Again, no proof, but I am pretty honest even Adams would have this team in a better situation if it wasn't for Pegula and how he is as an owner. idk, maybe, maybe not. It's all speculative but I'd guess it was simpler. Adams and/or Pegula considered JBot's bridge deal with Reinhart and how that ended and they wrongly drew a comparison to Cozens and so this time they went another way. It was following a league wide trend to award contracts to young "stars" before they earned them. Power followed as you know. He hasn't been awful, but he's not living up to that value yet either. Honestly I think if Cozens was playing with Greenway and Zucker he'd look a lot better. If he had developed on another team that surrounded him with veterans he'd be better. They've always expected him to carry a line rather than supporting him as he develops. The "grow together" idea was just bullcrap. They've ruined him. No idea if it's permanent or not. Shouldn't be, but who knows for sure. So to that point, the real issue is trading Mitts. As for Lindy, I think that just timed out right with NJ firing him. Don't know which of them wanted him more, but it was a veteran coach with Sabres legacy. Hard to say no to that idea. Long overdue in terms of hiring a veteran coach that's for sure. 2 Quote
SABRES 0311 Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 Anyone still think the team just needs 20 games to figure it out? 😂 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 51 minutes ago, SABRES 0311 said: Anyone still think the team just needs 20 games to figure it out? 😂 You know if they listen to Lindy they might figure some of it out by 20 games, but at that point it's too late and it'll be a repeat of late surge comes up short. 1 Quote
SABRES 0311 Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 1 minute ago, PerreaultForever said: You know if they listen to Lindy they might figure some of it out by 20 games, but at that point it's too late and it'll be a repeat of late surge comes up short. Yep. 100% Not that they’re bad players, just not the right players. Quote
Pimlach Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 7 hours ago, SABRES 0311 said: Anyone still think the team just needs 20 games to figure it out? 😂 Yes. I still think that. They don’t know each other out there. They play alone, not for the team. Tuch and Ruff call it “losing battles”. They brought in 6 new players and there is no cohesion. They have 5 guys with letters yet they lack leadership. They don’t have an identity yet. The only thing they can do is keep working at it. Quote
CallawaySabres Posted October 18 Report Posted October 18 Take with grain of salt as a rumor… but, they are going to make Adams director of Hockey Ops and promote the asst. GM to GM if that happens, nothing will change, and it will fall right in line with just another lateral movement with no improvement 1 Quote
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