Rasmus Dahlin named Sabres Captain

[#freejame]

On 10/27/2024 at 11:32 AM, LTS said:

I'm still puzzled by this.  I wasn't aware the fans had a thing against Dahlin.

I think he meant it more as indifferent than like/dislike. If Dahlin were Joe Smith and was still as good at hockey, Dahlin wouldn’t be missed. 

[Doohicksie]

On 10/27/2024 at 10:12 AM, inkman said:

I’m talking about the fans 

Rasmus does not project the persona of someone you'd want to have a beer with, like Tuch does.  Tuch as an upstater "one of us" and is more familiar in his mannerisms and such.

I think Dalihn simply isn't naturally charismatic and doesn't try.  That says nothing about how he relates with his fellow players in the room.

I'm kind of working through this for myself:  When I think of a captain I think of a charismatic guy, a guy who exudes positive vibes and an upbeat nature.  But those aren't qualities of a captain, they're qualities of a PR person.  Often the two line up but I don't think it's necessary that they do.  Maybe it's best that the captain is a reserved, nose-to-the-grindstone type of guy.  The happy happy feel good coach is gone; we have a more intense, more serious coach and it makes sense to have a more serious captain.

In short, being captain is not about the fans, it's about the team.

Edited Monday at 09:16 PM by Doohicksie

[Stoner]

It's not any more complicated than this: fans have watched him into now his seventh season, after being told he was generational and destined to win many Norri. To date there isn't one goddamned Rasmus Dahlin highlight with any real significance in the context of a truly meaningful win*.

*No lawyers were harmed in the production of this post.

[Pimlach]

26 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

Rasmus does not project the persona of someone you'd want to have a beer with, like Tuch does.  Tuch as an upstater "one of us" and is more familiar in his mannerisms and such.

I think Dalihn simply isn't naturally charismatic and doesn't try.  That says nothing about how he relates with his fellow players in the room.

I'm kind of working through this for myself:  When I think of a captain I think of a charismatic guy, a guy who exudes positive vibes and an upbeat nature.  But those aren't qualities of a captain, they're qualities of a PR person.  Often the two line up but I don't think it's necessary that they do.  Maybe it's best that the captain is a reserved, nose-to-the-grindstone type of guy.  The happy happy feel good coach is gone; we have a more intense, more serious coach and it makes sense to have a more serious captain.

In short, being captain is not about the fans, it's about the team.

Not sure about the bolded.   From what I see he has a good sense of humor. 

He is also inclusive with all in the room, not a clique guy, which is a nice and necessary trait for a captain.  

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

Not sure about the bolded.   From what I see he has a good sense of humor. 

He is also inclusive with all in the room, not a clique guy, which is a nice and necessary trait for a captain.  

I dunno, I've seen him cracking jokes and such, but he seems pretty taciturn most of the time.

[Weave]

15 minutes ago, Stoner said:

It's not any more complicated than this: fans have watched him into now his seventh season, after being told he was generational and destined to win many Norri. To date there isn't one goddamned Rasmus Dahlin highlight with any real significance in the context of a truly meaningful win*.

*No lawyers were harmed in the production of this post.

Norri deserves a like.

[Getpucksdeep]

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[Getpucksdeep]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

Intimidation? I mean, the guy had almost 200 hits and can deke out all the forwards. Idk what you want. 

 

From Dahlin at this point - just take care of the puck and make good decisions. (See goal against #2 tonight for the latest bonehead moment).

From my fantasy of being a GM - a # 1 D and Captain that is like Weber or Burns not like Dahlin, Power or Hughes.  

Edited Monday at 11:53 PM by Getpucksdeep
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[LGR4GM]

30 minutes ago, Getpucksdeep said:

 

From Dahlin at this point - just take care of the puck and make good decisions. (See goal against #2 tonight for the latest bonehead moment).

From my fantasy of being a GM - a # 1 D and Captain that is like Weber or Burns not like Dahlin, Power or Hughes.  

They don't even play hockey the same way. You act like Dahlin is some soft easy to play against offensive defender. 

[LGR4GM]

Dahlin just buried a guy behind the net. 

[Getpucksdeep]

9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Dahlin just buried a guy behind the net. 

Here for it!  Nice play and nice goal.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Getpucksdeep said:

Here for it!  Nice play and nice goal.

I agree Dahlin has flaws btw. I just think he's been than how you've characterized him. That first goal against, all on him

[Getpucksdeep]

50 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I agree Dahlin has flaws btw. I just think he's been than how you've characterized him. That first goal against, all on him

Can't make this up.  Sabres staffer comes to our row hands out 4 signed pucks guess what I got.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, Getpucksdeep said:

Can't make this up.  Sabres staffer comes to our row hands out 4 signed pucks guess what I got.

Haha, they know! 

[Getpucksdeep]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Haha, they know! 

Definitely a sign! I traded with my son for the record. He got a 77 and he's a 26 fan.

[Taro T]

Not happy with his play on the Cats 1st PP goal, but overall thought he was moving better than he had been in any of the earlier games this year.  Maybe that injury that's been limiting him IS actually healing up.

Their next 3 games are against teams, like Buffalo, that are looking to sneak into the playoffs.  They're all winnable and with him having 3 days with no games expecting he'll be skating like he did last night at a minimum and hopefully even a bit better than that.  That'll be a huge boost towards their winning all 3.

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Not happy with his play on the Cats 1st PP goal, but overall thought he was moving better than he had been in any of the earlier games this year.  Maybe that injury that's been limiting him IS actually healing up.

Their next 3 games are against teams, like Buffalo, that are looking to sneak into the playoffs.  They're all winnable and with him having 3 days with no games expecting he'll be skating like he did last night at a minimum and hopefully even a bit better than that.  That'll be a huge boost towards their winning all 3.

Yea but this take is rational and this board isn't. We're one loss away from the "trade our best" player banner being waived. 

[Archie Lee]

I’m not worried about Dahlin. As he recovers from his pre-season injury, I think he has looked more and more like his old-self. 

The occasional defensive miscue and undisciplined penalty is part of the package with Dahlin. If and when we become a better, more experienced and veteran team, those incidents will diminish as Dahlin better grasps he doesn’t have to do it all himself. And when they do occur they will hurt us less as we will be better able to recover and respond

[Idemo Buffalo]

1 hour ago, Archie Lee said:

I’m not worried about Dahlin. As he recovers from his pre-season injury, I think he has looked more and more like his old-self. 

The occasional defensive miscue and undisciplined penalty is part of the package with Dahlin. If and when we become a better, more experienced and veteran team, those incidents will diminish as Dahlin better grasps he doesn’t have to do it all himself. And when they do occur they will hurt us less as we will be better able to recover and respond

Great point.  Dahlin is like Josh Allen. Brilliant at times but they make stupid plays at times.  Like Josh, he will get more consistent.  They are both in year 7 but Allen is a 28 year old and Dahlin is just 24 and he has been playing on teams with a lot less talent than Josh had.  Dahlin finally has a coach too that will get on him.

[LTS]

22 hours ago, Getpucksdeep said:

Word. And 25 minutes toi per game  = we see him w/ the puck a lot and so it feels like more mistakes...but..yeah...just (as has been said many times before) I would much prefer we have a Shea Weber, Brett Burns or maybe even Trouba type as our #1 overall (2x) franchise D-man. Instead we get "i'm an offensive d-man!" Letang / Karlsson  So yeah probably unfair dislike of him given what all he's carrying for the franchise, but give me more of "it" (know what it takes to win) and I'll change my tune quickly.  

Shea Weber, perhaps.  Brett Burns played forward for some time if I recall correctly because he wasn't great at D.  I also look at what each of those defensemen had to work with as a team and think perhaps they were better because of who else was on the team.  Dahlin should be able to play 25 minutes per night and he was playing quite a bit last year if I recall.  It seems like they are still protecting him a bit and trying to lower minutes due to having Byram/Power.

18 hours ago, Doohicksie said:

Rasmus does not project the persona of someone you'd want to have a beer with, like Tuch does.  Tuch as an upstater "one of us" and is more familiar in his mannerisms and such.

I think Dalihn simply isn't naturally charismatic and doesn't try.  That says nothing about how he relates with his fellow players in the room.

I'm kind of working through this for myself:  When I think of a captain I think of a charismatic guy, a guy who exudes positive vibes and an upbeat nature.  But those aren't qualities of a captain, they're qualities of a PR person.  Often the two line up but I don't think it's necessary that they do.  Maybe it's best that the captain is a reserved, nose-to-the-grindstone type of guy.  The happy happy feel good coach is gone; we have a more intense, more serious coach and it makes sense to have a more serious captain.

In short, being captain is not about the fans, it's about the team.

I'd have a beer with him and hang out with him any time.  I'll hold additional thoughts to the below comment.

17 hours ago, Doohicksie said:

I dunno, I've seen him cracking jokes and such, but he seems pretty taciturn most of the time.

This isn't a surprise. This is a Scandinavian trait. There are exceptions but most of the players from that part of the world tend to be more reserved and less about making a show in person. It's a culture thing and I can see why it would not align with some in the US, but for me, who relates to those personality tendencies, I love it.

[JohnC]

20 hours ago, Doohicksie said:

I comb my hair and I don't look as sharp as him.

If you were wearing a tailor-made tuxedo and had a Hollywood hairdresser coif your hair you would still look raggedy compared to him. Let's not get delusional. Do you know what the first thing the hairdresser would say to you? Get that dam chicken off of your head before entering my exclusive salon! 

[pi2000]

5 hours ago, Archie Lee said:

I’m not worried about Dahlin. As he recovers from his pre-season injury, I think he has looked more and more like his old-self. 

The occasional defensive miscue and undisciplined penalty is part of the package with Dahlin. If and when we become a better, more experienced and veteran team, those incidents will diminish as Dahlin better grasps he doesn’t have to do it all himself. And when they do occur they will hurt us less as we will be better able to recover and respond

He's been in the league for 6 full seasons.    

Undisciplined, lack of awareness. 

Do better. 

[Idemo Buffalo]

10 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

He's been in the league for 6 full seasons.    

Undisciplined, lack of awareness. 

Do better. 

Think Josh Allen. Doing much better this year, but still makes stupid mistakes like not sliding or an occasional bad throw. It happens. You take the bad with the brilliant. Dahlin also finally has a capable coach. That is a big deal and is why you will see smarter and smarter play each month under Ruff.

[pi2000]

Not to pick on Dahlin, but this play just cannot happen.... on the PK no less.  

Our Captain is in great position here... but he never does a shoulder check.... eyes glued to the puck. 

Complete lack of awareness.   

Where are you going!  Leaves a 57g scorer all alone in front for a tap-in, probably the easiest goal he'll score all season.  

This play really grinds my gears, it's undisciplined and shows an extreme lack of awareness.  

I've benched PeeWee level players for less.  

You cannot win hockey games against good teams when your Captain has his head up his ass.

 

[LabattBlue]

14 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Not to pick on Dahlin, but this play just cannot happen.... on the PK no less.  

Our Captain is in great position here... but he never does a shoulder check.... eyes glued to the puck. 

Complete lack of awareness.   

Where are you going!  Leaves a 57g scorer all alone in front for a tap-in, probably the easiest goal he'll score all season.  

This play really grinds my gears, it's undisciplined and shows an extreme lack of awareness.  

I've benched PeeWee level players for less.  

You cannot win hockey games against good teams when your Captain has his head up his ass.

 

People beat up on Risto for his dumb plays.  Well guess what…that was a play Risto would be proud of from our soon to be Norris Trophy winner…at least that is what some posters have stated.