Cozens is terrible on the PK and should not be out there.

[mjd1001]

21 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

This thread is pointless with its small sample size.

Here's the stats from last year from our PK'ers with at least 100min of 4 on 5.

Cozens is ok. Tuch is the best.

As I said before, it's like saying Bourque sucks in overtime. Sample size is important.

 

I don't consider the entire last season a small sample size.

Plus as I said, a lot of the goals allowed last year were a DIRECT result of Cozens chasing. Its not like you look at a goal allowed and say "2 guys could have done something different". Its been more like "Wow, what the heck is Cozens doing".  

Again, it wasn't one or two times last year. I posted PK threads (some with pictures) probably 5-10 times or more last season with Cozens doing things that obvious.

And the numbers you posted are different than mine. First, the eye test shows (with video to back it up) what I am saying. 2nd, actually goals allowed per 60, Cozens is not the 2nd best among forwards. Depending on how far back you go, he's the 2nd worst or the worst (if you want to talk about Sample size, his numbers for PP goals against allowed per 60 is almost 10.  More than Tuch, and 30-50% more than Greenway and Tage.

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[JoeSchmoe]

7 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I don't consider the entire last season a small sample size.

Plus as I said, a lot of the goals allowed last year were a DIRECT result of Cozens chasing. Its not like you look at a goal allowed and say "2 guys could have done something different". Its been more like "Wow, what the heck is Cozens doing".  

Again, it wasn't one or two times last year. I posted PK threads (some with pictures) probably 5-10 times or more last season with Cozens doing things that obvious.

[mjd1001]

12 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

You keep on only putting that chart out.  Again, shot, chances, even goals allowed allow for some element of 'chance'.  Look at how he actually plays, the video, the pictures don't lie he is a major problem.

Even if you want to go by the chart you keep on putting out there, what is that time frame? Is that last year? his career?  And D-men and Forwards play a different role on penalty killing, so compare him to other forwards.  According to your chart, he is '2nd worst' among forwards, but again, actually watching him play, you can see he is a LOT worse than Greenway.

Finally, when you look at another chart, actual goals allowed per 60, either over last year or his career, he is always near the bottom of forwards.

You don't need a chart of stats to see just how bad he is, it is so obvious at times its hard to believe he plays that way. Short handed goals per 60 allowed supports this. The only thing that doesn't put him at the bottom of the barrel for Penalty killing is the one single chart you keep throwing out there, but even then, it doesn't show he is 'good', its just one chart that shows there is someone worse than him in that metric (but when you watch the games, that person actually plays his position much better.)

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[JoeSchmoe]

3 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

You keep on only putting that chart out.  Again, shot, chances, even goals allowed allow for some element of 'chance'.  Look at how he actually plays, the video, the pictures don't lie he is a major problem.

Even if you want to go by the chart you keep on putting out there, what is that time frame? Is that last year? his career?  And D-men and Forwards play a different role on penalty killing, so compare him to other forwards.  According to your chart, he is '2nd worst' among forwards, but again, actually watching him play, you can see he is a LOT worse than Greenway.

Finally, when you look at another chart, actual goals allowed per 60, either over last year or his career, he is always near the bottom of forwards.

You don't need a chart of stats to see just how bad he is, it is so obvious at times its hard to believe he plays that way. Short handed goals per 60 allowed supports this. The only thing that doesn't put him at the bottom of the barrel for Penalty killing is the one single chart you keep throwing out there, but even then, it doesn't show he is 'good', its just one chart that shows there is someone worse than him in that metric (but when you watch the games, that person actually plays his position much better.)

They're two different charts.