Jorcus Posted November 2 Report Posted November 2 15 hours ago, Ducky said: Comrie is 3-0-0 with a sv% of .915 so far! I don't know how long it will last but I am happy for the guy. A lot of injuries while with the Sabres but he seemed like a really good person though the whole time he was here. The jets are on a roll. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 2 Report Posted November 2 18 hours ago, Ducky said: Comrie is 3-0-0 with a sv% of .915 so far! Proof that a mediocre goalie can look good if a team plays good defense in front of him. 3 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 2 Report Posted November 2 Washington has the best points percentage/record in the Easter Conference going into tonight. They are currently beating a pretty decent Columbus team 5-0 at the end of the first period. They are doing it with a lot of veterans. Their top ice time players are 6 forwards and all 6 d-men: -Washingtons top 6 forwards in terms of ice time have 3 guys over 30 years old and the top 6 average 30 years old overall. -3 of their 6 defensemen are over 30. Their average age of their top 6 D-men is 28. By comparison, the Sabres: -Top 6 forwards have ZERO over 30 year old and their average age is about 25. -No defensemen over 30, average age is about 25. Now, I'm not advocating for getting a bunch of 30+ year olds, but it just goes to show how young and inexperienced the Sabres STILL are. Quote
JohnC Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 On 11/2/2024 at 6:02 PM, mjd1001 said: Washington has the best points percentage/record in the Easter Conference going into tonight. They are currently beating a pretty decent Columbus team 5-0 at the end of the first period. They are doing it with a lot of veterans. Their top ice time players are 6 forwards and all 6 d-men: -Washingtons top 6 forwards in terms of ice time have 3 guys over 30 years old and the top 6 average 30 years old overall. -3 of their 6 defensemen are over 30. Their average age of their top 6 D-men is 28. By comparison, the Sabres: -Top 6 forwards have ZERO over 30 year old and their average age is about 25. -No defensemen over 30, average age is about 25. Now, I'm not advocating for getting a bunch of 30+ year olds, but it just goes to show how young and inexperienced the Sabres STILL are. The Sabres are at a point where the age issue should not be considered a mitigating factor when judging its record. Yes, we are young relative to most teams. But there were opportunities to add a couple to a few medium veterans to this roster to better balance this roster. As an example, a second line veteran and alto so a veteran blueliner could have been added to better round out this laden young roster. It should be noted that our lower lines were reconstructed with experienced players this offseason. It also has to be factored in that a number of our young players got early NHL ice time and although are far from being seasoned veterans do have plenty of NHL experience. I would say Dahlin, Joki, Cozens, Samuelsson, Quinn (plagued with injuries), and JJP etc. fall in that category. Our GM has built this team the way he wanted to. Our record is our record. You could have a young roster and be successful. And you can have an older roster and be successful. We are what our record indicates. No more excuses. (Note: I'm not saying that you are saying otherwise.) Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JohnC said: Our GM has built this team the way he wanted to. Our record is our record. You could have a young roster and be successful. And you can have an older roster and be successful. We are what our record indicates. No more excuses. (Note: I'm not saying that you are saying otherwise.) I actually agree with you that age should not be an issue anymore, just pointing out Washington is doing it being 'older' than normal. Only issue I have is there seems to be a growing narrative that this on all on Adams. Everytime I hear that I am going to push back, I think this is as much Pegula meddling as it is Adams, probably more. Edited November 3 by mjd1001 Quote
JohnC Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 4 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I actually agree with you that age should not be an issue anymore, just pointing out Washington is doing it being 'older' than normal. Only issue I have is there seems to be a growing narrative that this on all on Adams. Everytime I hear that I am going to push back, I think this is as much Pegula meddling as it is Adams, probably more. There's no question that the owner significantly meddled when he took over the team. And its likely he did it for years. But I'm not as sure as you are that he is doing it as much as many people think. It's probable that Terry Pegula requires hockey decisions be approved by him before they go into effect. Basically, he wants to be informed ahead of time. There's nothing wrong or unusual about that. He's paying the salaries. I'm harsher in my assessment of KA than you appear to be. When the Sabres were stumbling it was KA who had the ear of the owner. He ended up as the head of the hockey operation. He had a plan that he publicly stated: Draft and develop. The intention was to jettison the old core for a new core that needed time to develop. My criticism of the congenial GM is not that he had a bad plan of basically starting over. It is that he was too rigid in not tweaking it enough to bring in the right players to support the new youngish core. I said this before so I apologize for the redundancy: He's a checkers player playing a chess game. In my opinion, he's overmatched as far as I'm concerned. With a little more flexibility and creativity, he could have mostly maintained his strategy to rebuild and been more successful. You are what your record is. Quote
Jorcus Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 On 11/2/2024 at 6:02 PM, mjd1001 said: Washington has the best points percentage/record in the Easter Conference going into tonight. They are currently beating a pretty decent Columbus team 5-0 at the end of the first period. They are doing it with a lot of veterans. Their top ice time players are 6 forwards and all 6 d-men: -Washingtons top 6 forwards in terms of ice time have 3 guys over 30 years old and the top 6 average 30 years old overall. -3 of their 6 defensemen are over 30. Their average age of their top 6 D-men is 28. By comparison, the Sabres: -Top 6 forwards have ZERO over 30 year old and their average age is about 25. -No defensemen over 30, average age is about 25. Now, I'm not advocating for getting a bunch of 30+ year olds, but it just goes to show how young and inexperienced the Sabres STILL are. For being an older team they are still pretty fast right now. Watching them bum rush the Rangers the other night was pretty impressive. On the other side of the coin you have Nashville who went all in on good old guys. They are trying to sort it out but it did not start well. I thought they were one of the most interesting teams in the off season. Stamkos is still great on the power play but can he get up and down against the quick teams? Some of the other guys seem to be on the slower side now too. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 I know some of you guys hate it when I bring up Boston and their culture but I have to mention this. Pasternak benched for the third period after lazy efforts on late second period giveaways. This when the team was winning the game 2-0 and he has 6 goals and 5 assists in their 13 games. In Buffalo, Jack Quinn still in the line up. Compare and contrast. 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 Damn, why do players turn into real hockey players only after they leave??? Zemgus. https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/n270048 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Damn, why do players turn into real hockey players only after they leave??? Zemgus. https://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/n270048 Expectations. Zemgus still hasn't scored any points this season, so some things remain the same. Though, he will obviously be on PP1, standing in front of the net, in Tampa's first game in Buffalo this season. He'll tuck in a hat trick. Quote
shrader Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Expectations. Zemgus still hasn't scored any points this season, so some things remain the same. Though, he will obviously be on PP1, standing in front of the net, in Tampa's first game in Buffalo this season. He'll tuck in a hat trick. That and he’ll get 4 breakaways and not score on any of them. 1 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 6 hours ago, DarthEbriate said: Expectations. Zemgus still hasn't scored any points this season, so some things remain the same. Though, he will obviously be on PP1, standing in front of the net, in Tampa's first game in Buffalo this season. He'll tuck in a hat trick. It's the team first aspect that draws me to it. Zemgus isn't going to win that fight. Stanley is a monster, but his instant reaction to be a team first guy is something we don't see a lot of in Buffalo. Occasional now, but not often. We certainly didn't see that side of Zemgus here. As for his "points". Who cares? He's not there for his points. Tampa has wins. Quote
ska-T Chitown Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 15 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I know some of you guys hate it when I bring up Boston and their culture but I have to mention this. Pasternak benched for the third period after lazy efforts on late second period giveaways. This when the team was winning the game 2-0 and he has 6 goals and 5 assists in their 13 games. In Buffalo, Jack Quinn still in the line up. Compare and contrast. I will make the bold choice of answering for everyone else 😉 I just hate Boston. Bruins, Sox, Pats, Celts ... bleh, bleh, bleh! I actually get a lot out of the posts because (cringe!) they are a really well run organization that has standards and players that embody that. I do empathize with Ruff, in that after any given period, he could bench half his team. I don't remember who mentioned it, but the idea stuck in my tiny brain that maybe this is the first time some of the younger guys have been asked to play in a real system with real responsibilities and their heads hurt. Ruff can't (we want him to, but I think we all know he really can't) just come out and say "JFC ... I don't think any of these guys have ever played in a real system ... I am gonna need a few more weeks." - but it might be the truth? As much as I hate the little rat - if a player plays with Marchand and he tells you what the expectations for effort and performance are - you do it. And so does he. I know we don't have anyone like that. Sigh. 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 5 hours ago, ska-T Chitown said: I will make the bold choice of answering for everyone else 😉 I just hate Boston. Bruins, Sox, Pats, Celts ... bleh, bleh, bleh! I actually get a lot out of the posts because (cringe!) they are a really well run organization that has standards and players that embody that. I do empathize with Ruff, in that after any given period, he could bench half his team. I don't remember who mentioned it, but the idea stuck in my tiny brain that maybe this is the first time some of the younger guys have been asked to play in a real system with real responsibilities and their heads hurt. Ruff can't (we want him to, but I think we all know he really can't) just come out and say "JFC ... I don't think any of these guys have ever played in a real system ... I am gonna need a few more weeks." - but it might be the truth? As much as I hate the little rat - if a player plays with Marchand and he tells you what the expectations for effort and performance are - you do it. And so does he. I know we don't have anyone like that. Sigh. I totally get the Boston hate and that's reasonable and fair. I don't post these Boston things to praise Boston, but to illustrate what is missing in Buffalo. There are other teams that have similar strong cultures, I'm just simply more familiar with the Bruins as they are my B team (who coincidentally have a B crest but what ya gonna do, seems right in a way). Florida obviously has a strong culture. It would appear that Tampa does as well. Vegas had a privileged pathway but they definitely built a culture there. Talented teams that crap out in the playoffs like Toronto would seem to be lacking in that area. 4 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 Barry Trotz saying "if they don't get it going soon we will trigger the rebuild plan" so maybe a decent veteran available there soon. Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 (edited) Ovechkin with 8 goals in 12 games this year. At the beginning of last year I had along talk with my cousin about him and said...he really has got to be close to hitting the wall, once he does he's not going to be able to score at all...and I was pretty sure he wasn't going to catch Gretzky. My thinking it would get to the point where he might be playing 80 games, hurting his team and maybe putting in 5-8 goals over that season. Well, I was wrong (at least so far). I think he is now only 32 or 33 behind Gretzky. It sill might be tough for him to do it this year (does he have a 40+ goal season in him at this age), but its looking more likely than not now. For reference, at age 39, Ovechkin has the same number of goals as Tage has, but Ovi has done it in one less game so far. Edited November 7 by mjd1001 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 8 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said: The Jets are 13-1 😱 So... they're flying? Quote
JustOneParade Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: So... they're flying? You're too young to be dishing out bad 'Dad jokes'. 😉 Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 13 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: You're too young to be dishing out bad 'Dad jokes'. 😉 Am I though? Quote
JustOneParade Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Am I though? 🤷♂️ Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 Here is another player I can't figure out, Elias Petterson. 2 years ago I watched him play a few games and I thought he was going to be the next superstar in the league. top 10, maybe even top 5 player. Then, he had a pretty bad contract extension negotiation with Vancouver. Last March 2, he signed his extension...8 years, $11.6m per season. -in the 1.5+ years before he signed the extension, he had 144 games played, 68 goals, 109 assists (39 goal, 62 assist, 101 points per 82 pace) -Since signing the extension, including playoffs last year, 45 games played, 8 goals, 17 assists (15 goal, 31 assists 46 points per 82 pace) That is a BIG drop in production. I searched a bit and didn't see much about him playing through an injury, and he's still getting ice time. Quote
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