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12 minutes ago, shrader said:

I wish they’d give the scenario for each top speed. It’s probably the same situation for each one, chasing an icing or something like that.  

Yes there are some questions about how this data is generated. The main one is how far do you have to skate before a it is recorded as a speed burst? I assume it is close to half the ice. You have to skate unimpeded to generate a good time. One thing to note is they don't normalize for ice time so say your comparing Kozak to Quinn the number of speed bursts will be higher if you have more opportunities to record them. These recordings seem to favor larger long stride players who cover more ground going end to end. 

 

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2 hours ago, Jorcus said:

https://edge.nhl.com/en/team/20242025-regular-BUF

 

Over all team stats for the year vs. other teams

Top speed below 50th percentile 

22 mph plus bursts below 50th percentile 

20-22 mph bursts 70th percentile 

18-20 mph bursts 96th percentile

Top speed is kind of a one off event so it does not mean a whole lot. The league average for 22 mph bursts is 80 times for the whole season we had 61. Thats not that big a deal. As this points out what we do is skate fast often.  If you look through the individual stats the speed is in our forward group. 

53 minutes ago, shrader said:

I wish they’d give the scenario for each top speed. It’s probably the same situation for each one, chasing an icing or something like that.  

I guess they were so positionally sound all year that they never had to try and get to a puck first.

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Posted
7 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

This is only for the first quarter of 2024? What was it for the full season? Just curious. 

I haven't see that but maybe if you dig around it's on that site somewhere. 

https://edge.nhl.com/en/home

Interesting (and maybe obvious) if you look at the top 10 fastest teams they have listed there they are all playoff teams. 

So if being fast is our mantra, they are not succeeding in that regard. 

Posted
1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said:

I haven't see that but maybe if you dig around it's on that site somewhere. 

https://edge.nhl.com/en/home

Interesting (and maybe obvious) if you look at the top 10 fastest teams they have listed there they are all playoff teams. 

So if being fast is our mantra, they are not succeeding in that regard. 

At the bottom of the data set it shows that Brandan Wadlow used the NHL edge information to generate that report. It will not be in that format on NHL edge. NHL edge does not like to embarrass anyone so if you are below 50% compared to the rest of the NHL they just state that as a comparison. The numbers are there but the comparisons are not for the lower half of the league.  

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How the Sabres finished up on NHL edge. B50 means below 50 % a number is compared to the rest of the league. Other than top speed the comparison is how many times a player skated that fast in MPH. This is a percentile comparison so Byram is in the 91st percentile in terms of the number of times he skated faster than 22 MPH. 

 

                                             Top Speed        22+     20-22   18-20

Benson                                     b50              b50        b50        63

Docker                                      b50               b50       b50        b50

Bryson                                     b50                b50       59           52

Byram                                      78                   91          91           93

Clifton                                      65                   62          61          61

Dahlin                                       56                   B50       70          89

Greenway                                 B50                B50       B50        B50

Kozak                                        66                   64         B50        B50

Krebs                                         67                   64         80          92

Kulich                                         B50                71          83           82

Lafferty                                      78                   88          64          B50

Malenstyn                                  76                   76           77         58

McLeod                                      82                   87            96        99

Norris                                         98                    94          90         78

Peterka                                       56                   71            87          87

Power                                         B50                B50           80        92

Quinn                                          B50                B50          53          62

Sammy                                       81                    88            61           65

Thompson                                 76                     64           79          93

Tuch                                           65                     64           85          78

Zucker                                        56                     51            B50        B50

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1 hour ago, Jorcus said:

How the Sabres finished up on NHL edge. B50 means below 50 % a number is compared to the rest of the league. Other than top speed the comparison is how many times a player skated that fast in MPH. This is a percentile comparison so Byram is in the 91st percentile in terms of the number of times he skated faster than 22 MPH. 

 

                                             Top Speed        22+     20-22   18-20

Benson                                     b50              b50        b50        63

Docker                                      b50               b50       b50        b50

Bryson                                     b50                b50       59           52

Byram                                      78                   91          91           93

Clifton                                      65                   62          61          61

Dahlin                                       56                   B50       70          89

Greenway                                 B50                B50       B50        B50

Kozak                                        66                   64         B50        B50

Krebs                                         67                   64         80          92

Kulich                                         B50                71          83           82

Lafferty                                      78                   88          64          B50

Malenstyn                                  76                   76           77         58

McLeod                                      82                   87            96        99

Norris                                         98                    94          90         78

Peterka                                       56                   71            87          87

Power                                         B50                B50           80        92

Quinn                                          B50                B50          53          62

Sammy                                       81                    88            61           65

Thompson                                 76                     64           79          93

Tuch                                           65                     64           85          78

Zucker                                        56                     51            B50        B50

Interesting the McLeod and Norris #'s.  Norris' top top end is at the very top of the league and he gets to that top end more than most anybody but he isn't going pretty fast all that often compared to everybody else.

McLeod's top speed isn't as fast, but he goes pretty fast relatively all the time.

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