Sabres Training Camp Thread

[That Aud Smell]

Welcome news about Dahlin. 

It sounds like he was, in fact, looking pissed today because it’s something minor and he wanted to be back out there.

[Doohicksie]

Or maybe it's because he's Swedish.  Swedish dudes always look pissed.

[LTS]

11 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said:

There are people on this site who get hurt reaching up into a cabinet for a salt shaker. 

There are people on this site who get hurt when someone disagrees with them. They didn't have to reach for the salt.

It's all chasms and mountains for some people. 

Anyway.. glad Ruff is preaching discipline and attention to detail. Imagine.

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2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

Looking at it another way.... If Dahlin is going to be injured, I'd rather see it early in camp.  It gives him more time to recover without the pressure to play, and it gives the team ample practice with the remaining players to adjust to different roles.

If anyone on this team can survive missing a few days of the on-ice portion of training camp it's Dahlin.

Had Dahlin played through it today and then two months from now he's out indefinitely "from an injury during camp", what would people here be saying?

For all we know he had a laparoscopic appendectomy a few weeks ago and one of the incisions opened up.

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57 minutes ago, Thorny said:

It’s Greener’s birthday. 

 

Whoops sorry it’s Greener’s world. Check that; world.

QUINNER’s birthday 

My mistake. still on an emotional high after seeing Dahlinerr is gonna be ok 

It's "Dahls". Geez, keep up.

[LGR4GM]

I found it interesting that Paul Hamilton was talking on the radio about the step up in practice intensity from Barf Kruger to Donny G to Ruff and each time it was a major improvement. He talked about how Ruff was calling plays dead that were offsides, calling penalties that would cut it in a game, and genuinely expecting the team to practice how it played. Specifically called out Granato for allowing plays to go offsides at practice and for lazy penalties to happen with no care at all. Just interesting to hear from someone who watches practices. Does it mean anything? Not unless they win. 

[Stoner]

50 minutes ago, LTS said:

There are people on this site who get hurt when someone disagrees with them. They didn't have to reach for the salt.

It's all chasms and mountains for some people. 

Anyway.. glad Ruff is preaching discipline and attention to detail. Imagine.

Practicing your mounting and dismounting from a high horse? It's OK. It's camp for us, too.

[Weave]

54 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Practicing your mounting and dismounting from a high horse? It's OK. It's camp for us, too.

I’m holding out.

[SwampD]

6 hours ago, nfreeman said:

JFC. 

Perfectly stated.

[IKnowPhysics]

Sometime back in April...

KA: "Lindy, I drafted this really talented group of kids..."

Lindy: "No."

KA: "...and I want you to just pound the absolute piss out of them in camp."

Lindy: "Is the door code still 1-9-7-0?"

[#freejame]

I haven’t played on a ton of hockey teams, nor have I played in the NHL, but I don’t know of any hockey player who looks at on-ice pushups as a punishment. It’s a corrective action only in that it looks like one. Skate ‘em hard, and none of this wall to wall stuff. 

[Doohicksie]

3 hours ago, Doohickie said:

Or maybe it's because he's Swedish.  Swedish dudes always look pissed.

Finnish guys too.  I guess it's a Scandinavian thing.

 

[PerreaultForever]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I found it interesting that Paul Hamilton was talking on the radio about the step up in practice intensity from Barf Kruger to Donny G to Ruff and each time it was a major improvement. He talked about how Ruff was calling plays dead that were offsides, calling penalties that would cut it in a game, and genuinely expecting the team to practice how it played. Specifically called out Granato for allowing plays to go offsides at practice and for lazy penalties to happen with no care at all. Just interesting to hear from someone who watches practices. Does it mean anything? Not unless they win. 

Part of why they got rid of Skinner. Discipline. 

[SabreFinn]

9 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Finnish guys too.  I guess it's a Scandinavian thing.

 

Only the finns, the swedes are those pretty boys 😅

[PerreaultForever]

22 minutes ago, #freejame said:

I haven’t played on a ton of hockey teams, nor have I played in the NHL, but I don’t know of any hockey player who looks at on-ice pushups as a punishment. It’s a corrective action only in that it looks like one. Skate ‘em hard, and none of this wall to wall stuff. 

 

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, #freejame said:

I haven’t played on a ton of hockey teams, nor have I played in the NHL, but I don’t know of any hockey player who looks at on-ice pushups as a punishment. It’s a corrective action only in that it looks like one. Skate ‘em hard, and none of this wall to wall stuff. 

I think it’s more the idea than the actual push-ups. The idea that you’re effectively being punished like a child has a strong connection their youth hockey days. It also scales with the length of the practice. 
 

4 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I found it interesting that Paul Hamilton was talking on the radio about the step up in practice intensity from Barf Kruger to Donny G to Ruff and each time it was a major improvement. He talked about how Ruff was calling plays dead that were offsides, calling penalties that would cut it in a game, and genuinely expecting the team to practice how it played. Specifically called out Granato for allowing plays to go offsides at practice and for lazy penalties to happen with no care at all. Just interesting to hear from someone who watches practices. Does it mean anything? Not unless they win. 

Begs to question what the team even did with Krueger at practice. Granato definitely had a more tempo and teaching style to his practices while Ruff is hammering them into a Sabre ready to wield in battle through a combo of physical activity, tempo and a nigh zero tolerance to dumb mistakes.

Were they just doing the hockey equivalent to NFL walkthroughs?

[Crusader1969]

2 hours ago, Doohickie said:

Finnish guys too.  I guess it's a Scandinavian thing.

 

Have you not watched Vikings??  It's a tough life near the artic circle 

[pi2000]

3 hours ago, #freejame said:

I haven’t played on a ton of hockey teams, nor have I played in the NHL, but I don’t know of any hockey player who looks at on-ice pushups as a punishment. It’s a corrective action only in that it looks like one. Skate ‘em hard, and none of this wall to wall stuff. 

On ice push-us are 10 times harder than on land.   

You have no leverage on your toes, it's more of a core exercise than anything else.

[Cityo'Rasmii]

3 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

On ice push-us are 10 times harder than on land.   

You have no leverage on your toes, it's more of a core exercise than anything else.

Yes, and thanks for that. I like what I'm hearing instead of the Cappuccino machine.

go Sabres

[triumph_communes]

It sets the standard. Nobody is getting away with anything. You slip up then you push up. Okie dokie be gone 

[Weave]

We are about 5 practices away from a good old fashioned head slash.

Keep your eyes open, Kulich!

[LGR4GM]

4 hours ago, IKnowPhysics said:

Sometime back in April...

KA: "Lindy, I drafted this really talented group of kids..."

Lindy: "No."

KA: "...and I want you to just pound the absolute piss out of them in camp."

Lindy: "Is the door code still 1-9-7-0?"

We have video of that conversation:

[LGR4GM]

4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

Part of why they got rid of Skinner. Discipline. 

Skinner was one of the best forwards in the NHL at drawing penalties throughout his career. 

[Archie Lee]

I’m not downplaying the significance that a coaching change can make. I was counting it up today though, and in my years of being a cognizant fan there have been close to 60 head coaching or manager (baseball) changes on the sports teams I cheer for. I don’t recall a single one where the incoming coach received anything but initial praise for some change they made to how the team practices or prepares (more tempo, more relaxed, more serious, more approachable).  Give me an NHL average power-play. The push-ups I can take or leave. 

[PerreaultForever]

27 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Skinner was one of the best forwards in the NHL at drawing penalties throughout his career. 

ffs, I'm talking about listening to the coach and playing with discipline.