Peyton Krebs signs 2 year 1.45 million AAV contract

[LGR4GM]

If Krebs plays better all year, my opinion will change. 

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, ska-T Chitown said:

You could probably identify a player equal to or worse on nearly every team's roster. Had we gotten him for a 3rd instead of the "center piece" of the Eichel trade, I think he would get complained about far less often.

But he was never a centerpiece.  He was an add-in with some upside, an unproven prospect.  Tuch was always the centerpiece and he's lived up to his end of the bargain.  Anything out of Krebs and the draft picks are bonus imo.

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, ska-T Chitown said:

You could probably identify a player equal to or worse on nearly every team's roster. Had we gotten him for a 3rd instead of the "center piece" of the Eichel trade, I think he would get complained about far less often.

 

centerpiece of the Eichel trade?   

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

If Krebs plays better all year, my opinion will change. 

Last was probably the best overall game I’ve seen from Krebs as a Sabres. That said, I agree with you that the jury is still out on Krebs and I don’t see the long-term fit.

[mjd1001]

6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Last was probably the best overall game I’ve seen from Krebs as a Sabres. That said, I agree with you that the jury is still out on Krebs and I don’t see the long-term fit.

I think likely best case scenario is he competes as a bottom 6 center, and/or is the 13th forward who ends up playing 60+ games a year for he because he fills in for injuries or is the 'first guy in' when someone needs rest or to be benched.

I think there is a slight chance he could develop into something more (a #2/#3 center) but to be a quality player at that level, the chances are there but at this point very small.

[LGR4GM]

9 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Last was probably the best overall game I’ve seen from Krebs as a Sabres. That said, I agree with you that the jury is still out on Krebs and I don’t see the long-term fit.

There's always a long term fit (5ish years) for a player that can slide around your bottom 9 at wing or center. 

[EM88]

I did not like giving him 2 years even at a low aav. Early returns look like it might be a good move.

[ska-T Chitown]

1 hour ago, Doohicksie said:

But he was never a centerpiece.  He was an add-in with some upside, an unproven prospect.  Tuch was always the centerpiece and he's lived up to his end of the bargain.  Anything out of Krebs and the draft picks are bonus imo.

 

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

 

centerpiece of the Eichel trade?   

No, you are right - he was just the young prospect coming back ... so that actually enhances my point - we have seen it over and over; sabrespace (in general, not you two) craps on a player without giving them credit for playing the role that they do. Sometimes it feels like some folks think other teams are nothing but 12 Stamkos-like players and forget the Zemgus is now a serviceable player on TB's 4th line. I am actually generally happy with most of what I have seen out of Krebsie this year.

[Doohicksie]

Watched the Peyton Krebs postgame presser and he mentioned he's getting powerplay time, in part because of his faceoff ability; said he's been working on that a lot.  Krebs is second on the team with 65.1% faceoff wins.  Sitting 100% is JJP, but I suspect that's for only one or two faceoffs.  It's good to see Krebsie having a skill that differentiates him from other forwards and really helps the team.

[LGR4GM]

7 hours ago, Doohicksie said:

Watched the Peyton Krebs postgame presser and he mentioned he's getting powerplay time, in part because of his faceoff ability; said he's been working on that a lot.  Krebs is second on the team with 65.1% faceoff wins.  Sitting 100% is JJP, but I suspect that's for only one or two faceoffs.  It's good to see Krebsie having a skill that differentiates him from other forwards and really helps the team.

It is 1 faceoff for Peterka. Krebs is 28w to 15l

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

It is 1 faceoff for Peterka. Krebs is 28w to 15l

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Where can I find the FO stats at that level?

[LGR4GM]

20 minutes ago, Doohicksie said:

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Where can I find the FO stats at that level?

Hockey reference under standard stats

https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/krebspe01.html

 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

Krebs has mediocre skill but a good work ethic and drive. His wheels are always moving when he is on the ice. If that keeps up he should have a long career as a 3rd/4th liner. His play has picked up this year as it seems Lindy has given him a role that suits his talents. 

[mjd1001]

14 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

Krebs has mediocre skill but a good work ethic and drive. His wheels are always moving when he is on the ice. If that keeps up he should have a long career as a 3rd/4th liner. His play has picked up this year as it seems Lindy has given him a role that suits his talents. 

As far as Krebs skill, to me he has average speed (not bad, but not great), average overall skating (again, not bad but not exceptional), a below average slap shot/one timer, average shot accuracy, average size, and above average vision/hockey sense.  If he does take well to coaching and has a good work ethic/drive, that helps him become a more useful player.

He does seem to be skating really hard out there, being phyical, pushing himself. I wonder how much of that is because he is only getting about 10-12 minutes of ice time and he is fresh?  If for some reason he got 16-18 minutes of ice time, would he not be as effective, needing to 'pace' himself a bit more?  Its Kinda the same with Clifton on defense. He is hitting everything, He has as many hits Power, Jokiharju, and Byram combined....and twice as many as Dahlin. But he has the least ice time. If Clifton had more ice time, would have have to back off the physical play out of self preservation?

A few weeks ago we were talking a bit about Ruff, about having a new coach....and that there would likely be guys who simply play better under a new coach becasue they react well to his style...and other guys who seem to have no reason (other than a new coach) that don't react well and play worse.

So, who would the guys be that just really play better under Ruff and who would take a step back.

Its early, maybe too early to make a definitive judgement, but right now it looks like Krebs is reacting better than most thought, and Quinn is the one who is having a hard time with something.

Edited October 24 by mjd1001