Sabres on notice and everybody knows it

[triumph_communes]

The zegras trade is interesting rumor. Did the GM go make a framework of a trade just for shakeup purposes and the owner veto it because it didn’t have the right feel?  Is that really Adam’s just following his owners orders?  Or does KA actually have a spine and thinks the trade is needed and the owner is undermining him?  I could see it both ways, but I’m not seeing how a Zegras acquisition is some sort of must have. Or the send back becomes a player like Quinn who the owner is especially fond of. Interesting to say the least, Zegras has a pile of baggage with him and next year is the time to bring that in, not sure if this upcoming training camp is the time for that. 
 

Nothjng matters until we have a coaching staff who is respected by their team. Need to see that shift first

Edited September 11 by triumph_communes

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, triumph_communes said:

The zegras trade is interesting rumor. Did the GM go make a framework of a trade just for shakeup purposes and the owner veto it because it didn’t have the right feel?  Is that really Adam’s just following his owners orders?  Or does KA actually have a spine and thinks the trade is needed and the owner is undermining him?  I could see it both ways, but I’m not seeing how a Zegras acquisition is some sort of must have. Or the send back becomes a player like Quinn who the owner is especially fond of. Interesting to say the least, Zegras has a pile of baggage with him and next year is the time to bring that in, not sure if this upcoming training camp is the time for that. 
 

Nothjng matters until we have a coaching staff who is respected by their team. Need to see that shift first

I don't really want Zegras unless you are just sending 'slightly better than garbage' back, which I don't think they will do. (Krebs, 2nd round pick, mid level prospect).  To me there is no guarantee that Zegras will be that much better than Quinn, or Peterka, or even Benson. Maybe, maybe not.

But if I don't know for sure (The Sabres DO know alot about them, not so much about Zegras), then I'm not moving one of them (or 2 of them, or a package including them) for Zegras.  I mean he LOOKS talented and he may have as much or more raw talent as any of the Sabres youngsters....He has scored 21-22 goals per 82 games (pretty good for only going into his 5th year, but not great).  But on the other hand, there are some people who say he skates hard all the time, yet I have seen clips where he just floats around, seemingly randomly, in is own end waiting near the blue-line for a breakout pass.

I'm thinking again about it as I type this and am going back and forth. If the Sabres traded for him would I be excited? Sure. But if they gave up Quinn or Peterka, much less so.

Edited September 11 by mjd1001

[JoeSchmoe]

How did this thread get to 9 pages? 

I listened to the podcast last night while I was mowing the lawn and the whole show was Friedman giving a preview of all 32 teams as a welcome back to the pod (new season and after the Marek departure).

It was clear to me that he had nothing on the Sabres and this was the best narrative he could manufacture. 

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said:

How did this thread get to 9 pages? 

Offseason but quickly approaching training camp. NOTHING going on.  A wide ranging, vague topic which invites people to voice any kind of opinion on the team we want.

We need some on-ice action really soon.

Edited September 11 by mjd1001

[French Collection]

13 hours ago, JohnC said:

I appreciate these interesting factoids. You may not have intended it but I feel more stupid for not knowing these particular historical hockey facts. 😀

My wife calls the stuff I know stupid trivia.

[PerreaultForever]

10 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said:

How did this thread get to 9 pages? 

I listened to the podcast last night while I was mowing the lawn and the whole show was Friedman giving a preview of all 32 teams as a welcome back to the pod (new season and after the Marek departure).

It was clear to me that he had nothing on the Sabres and this was the best narrative he could manufacture. 

Better question, how did it get back to a Zegras (and his mullet) discussion???

[inkman]

On 9/7/2024 at 8:50 AM, That Aud Smell said:

Agree. The current Sabres situation is a Rorschach test. I blink and rub my eyes, but I just see a roster being cost controlled (and being kept young) and a franchise that spends like a traditional poverty franchise.

I know Friedman has crazy juice. But he’s got 32 teams to cover. It sounds to me like he and his league sources are talking out of their ***** regarding the Sabres.

Tell me more about this “crazy juice” 

[Thorner]

This is how we win

[Sidc3000]

18 hours ago, Thorny said:

This is how we win

Just watched it. Total ***** fluff piece.   They definitely know fans are questioning Terry’s loyalty to the team. They made it a point to say that these upgrades are coming from the owners pocket and the family is as committed to this market as anyone is committed to a market. Oh and “Terry loves hockey”.
Elaine said it best…blah blah blah

[DarthEbriate]

19 hours ago, Thorny said:

This is how we win

This is how we track whether we're winning or not in colored lights.

[LGR4GM]

20 hours ago, Thorny said:

This is how we win

I watched it and it was proof the Sabres are at least aware of what social media thinks but man... that 4 min promo felt like pandering spin bs. I'm not trying to be an ass but it reminded me of a sales video. 

[Sidc3000]

18 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

I watched it and it was proof the Sabres are at least aware of what social media thinks but man... that 4 min promo felt like pandering spin bs. I'm not trying to be an ass but it reminded me of a sales video. 

Exactly. Lipstick on a pig

[Stoner]

The fastener discussion was fascinating. Wasn't even going for a pun but will take it.

We are unburdened by what has been.

Save us, Pete!

[Brawndo]

On 9/10/2024 at 7:38 PM, dudacek said:

In a perfect world we hire the next Bill Zito, who quickly flips Adams mistakes for better players, convinces Pegula to spend wisely and turns things around quickly, the way @Thorny wishes Adams would have.

In the real world, Pegula probably either botches the hire, or gets in his way and we get to repeat these conversations for another 4 years as the new guy muddles his way through, and more and more fantastic fans like @Weave and @Wyldnwoody44 just get too tired or angry to invest themselves any more.

 

Submitted without comment 

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1292093

[dudacek]

21 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Submitted without comment 

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1292093

I remember that.

In the aftermath of the Botterill firing, it became pretty clear that Jason was hired on the strong recommendation of the NHL and Pegula regretted listening.

Always wondered who he thought he should have hired.

[Thorner]

 

Oh boy. 

I mean I almost certainly think he’s just carrying water for the owners, that’s sort of his MO..but yikes, it does bring home the fact there are no good answers 

Edited September 18 by Thorny

[Weave]

43 minutes ago, Thorny said:

 

Oh boy. 

I mean I almost certainly think he’s just carrying water for the owners, that’s sort of his MO..but yikes, it does bring home the fact there are no good answers 

KA falling on the sword for his boss.  That will get him loyalty points……

 

right up until the next fanbase revolt

[Demoted]

1 hour ago, Thorny said:

 

Oh boy. 

I mean I almost certainly think he’s just carrying water for the owners, that’s sort of his MO..but yikes, it does bring home the fact there are no good answers 

Just strikes me as odd, not like Terry doesn't have the money to make them good. Everyone knows a good team will pack houses. 

 

Makes me want to hate the way Adams has handled this team even more if it's not just PR to protect Terry.

[DarthEbriate]

After missing the playoffs by 1 point... with a coach who had no faith in VO and missing Quinn for half the season -- there was no move for a Quinn replacement (a Zucker, a Tarasenko, etc.). There was no move to improve the 4th line. There was no move to improve on Comrie. All things that occurred this past offseason, a year late. No deals that could've made them better then? No deals that could've strengthened the team and its depth?

GM Sheevyn rose to power and is going to protect the secrets of the EEE.

[Cascade Youth]

Possibly the nicest, and most incompetent GM in all of professional sports.

[#freejame]

Every time I see the thread title my mind jumps to “I noticed you noticing me. And I just wanted to put you on notice that I noticed you too.”

[That Aud Smell]

29 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Every time I see the thread title my mind jumps to “I noticed you noticing me. And I just wanted to put you on notice that I noticed you too.”

 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

I am so tired of the dysfunctional Sabres. Just freaking win and get in the damn playoffs. This is embarrassing that it is still a story.

[PromoTheRobot]

37 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said:

I am so tired of the dysfunctional Sabres. Just freaking win and get in the damn playoffs. This is embarrassing that it is still a story.

The season has to start first.

[Stoner]

21 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

The season has to start first.

True dat. But what is tiring is hearing the same talk. Why do KA and LR have to stand before pro players and preach work ethic dedication striving commitment passion yada yada yada?

P.S. Lindy did his talking with a reportedly very tough opening practice. So much that it broke Ras.

Press your luck for Alex Tuch.

Edited September 19 by PASabreFan