Amerks 24/25 - Young Talented Roster

[GASabresIUFAN]

Fascinating discussion on Benson and McLeod, but this is an Amerks thread.

[LGR4GM]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Fascinating discussion on Benson and McLeod, but this is an Amerks thread.

Zach Benson would be the 3 youngest Amerk if he were put on their Roster. 

[mjd1001]

12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I decline to do your research for you. Go back and watch the videos and go back and read the stories. Sorry if that reply seems short or rude but Forton wanted Leinonen. Analytics wanted Benson. There's no way in hell anyone other than Analytics drove the bus on McLeod. 

If Jerry Forton is so ***** awesome how come this team has drafted so ***** mediocre so mofo often with him around?

If they are going to move on from Adams, I think they need to move on from most, if not all, of the current staff.

Let the new GM come in, interview all of them and if he wants them, he can keep them, but no understanding of keeping them around for continuity or any other garbage other than that.  

As far as drafting, free agents, trades...I beleive that most of these guys have input. The players we have are a result of all of them. If anything, it may not be true but I can make a case the scouting dept and analytics dept. does more of the 'leg work' on selecting players, and Adams just makes the 'final' decision or is the guy that pulls the trigger.  If Adams goes, I want most, if not all of them to go also.

Edited 7 hours ago by mjd1001

[GASabresIUFAN]

34 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Zach Benson would be the 3 youngest Amerk if he were put on their Roster. 

But he isn’t an Amerk and has never been an Amerk.  
 

Speaking of the Amerks, will Adams/Karmanos make any deadline deals to strengthen the Amerks for the playoffs?

 

[Brawndo]

 

[EM88]

On 3/5/2025 at 10:44 AM, matter2003 said:

They are a juggernaut as of right now...lead the AHL in points, tied for most wins, fewest losses, scored the most goals and have the highest goal differential at +43. Not sure what else you would need to see to term them a juggernaut, they are the best team in the AHL.

Juggernaut to me means elite team. Like best team in a decade in the league. As in the marvel character, a juggernaut is something that is almost unstoppable that crushes anything or anyone that gets in its way.   The Amerks are good. Juggernaut good? Not yet.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, EM88 said:

Juggernaut to me means elite team. Like best team in a decade in the league. As in the marvel character, a juggernaut is something that is almost unstoppable that crushes anything or anyone that gets in its way.   The Amerks are good. Juggernaut good? Not yet.

Most wins and fewest losses isn't "almost unstoppable?" What's being 2nd best? A lost year?

Edited 1 hour ago by PromoTheRobot

[GASabresIUFAN]

I was looking at Quanthockey to see where Helenius’ season is historically by an 18 year old in the A.  As of today his 26 points in 48 games stands 16th.  Not bad, with plenty of additional games to move up the list.  The player 2nd on the list is our friend Jiri Kulich with 46 pts in 62 games.  His 24 goals were also second.

The guy at the top of the list is Josef Cierny.  Name familiar?  The former Sabres draft pick accomplished his 27g  54 pt season for the Amerks.

https://www.quanthockey.com/ahl/en/player-age/18-year-old-ahl-players.html

[mjd1001]

44 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Most wins and fewest losses isn't "almost unstoppable?" What's being 2nd best? A lost year?

No, most wins and fewest losses does't mean 'almost unstoppable'.

First of all, they currently do not have the most wins. The Amerks  have 34. Laval has 35 and they have done that in one less game.

Next, they do not have the least number of losses. The Amerks have 20 losses. Laval has only 18.

Want to take into consider overtime and shootout losses? Well they do not have the best point percentage. They are behind Laval there also.

 When your overall season literally average out to win 2 games, lose 1 game, that is very good but not almost unstoppable.

When their average game has them outscoring the other team by 0.8 goals per game, that is very good but not almost unstoppable.

What would I classify as a Juggernaut, 'nearly ustoppable?' Its been done before and this Amerks team, as good as they are, are no where close to it. 

They aren't even the best team in the AHL this year (still behind Laval in terms of points/winning percentage)

So what is a Juggernaut in Hockey?  Just looking at the NHL, not even the AHL:

-The 2022-23 Boston Bruins.  65w-17L. Outscored their opponent by 1.56 goals per game.

-2018-2019 Tampa Lighting.  62w-20L. Outscored opponents by 1.25 goals per game.

-2012-2013 Blackhawks. 36W-12L in shortened season. Outscored opponents by 1.1 goals per game.

-1995-96 Red Wings. 62-20.  Outscored opponents by 1.76 goals per game.

The Amerks are good, very good, but to say they are nearly unstoppable is a big reach.

 

Edited 19 minutes ago by mjd1001