Amerks 24/25 - Young Talented Roster

[ska-T Palmtown]

4 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

Point to me one great NHL coach that didn’t have good goaltending. 

That makes me wonder ... has there ever been the NHL goalie equivalent of Trent Dilfer? "We just need our goalie to manage the game and not lose it for us?" that actually won the cup?

[Porous Five Hole]

7 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

That makes me wonder ... has there ever been the NHL goalie equivalent of Trent Dilfer? "We just need our goalie to manage the game and not lose it for us?" that actually won the cup?

Adin Hill is my best guess.  His stats are pretty average…his career save percentage is .908. For reference, UPL is .902.  And LV has a far better overall team. 

[JoeSchmoe]

2 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Adin Hill is my best guess.  His stats are pretty average…his career save percentage is .908. For reference, UPL is .902.  And LV has a far better overall team. 

Chris Osgood would be my bet.

[Jorcus]

Stuart Skinner. Sometimes he can sometimes he can't.

[ska-T Palmtown]

13 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Adin Hill is my best guess.  His stats are pretty average…his career save percentage is .908. For reference, UPL is .902.  And LV has a far better overall team. 

 

10 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Chris Osgood would be my bet.

I think people need a refresher on the fact that Trent would not even be described as an "adequate" starting QB:

6 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

Stuart Skinner. Sometimes he can sometimes he can't.

He hasn't won a cup, so *BUZZ* you get the family feud red x ❌

Edited Tuesday at 12:49 AM by ska-T Palmtown

[shrader]

52 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

That makes me wonder ... has there ever been the NHL goalie equivalent of Trent Dilfer? "We just need our goalie to manage the game and not lose it for us?" that actually won the cup?

Why not look straight to the most cursed cup ever Around these parts:

Ward, Cam

[Jorcus]

28 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

 

I think people need a refresher on the fact that Trent would not even be described as an "adequate" starting QB:

He hasn't won a cup, so *BUZZ* you get the family feud red x ❌

Was that a requirement for this hypothetical? 

[ska-T Palmtown]

2 minutes ago, Jorcus said:

Was that a requirement for this hypothetical? 

My sentence structure on the original question was poor, but I did say "that actually won the cup"

[ska-T Palmtown]

4 minutes ago, shrader said:

Why not look straight to the most cursed cup ever Around these parts:

Ward, Cam

.908 and 2.74 ... but those numbers are a bit misleading, lower GAAs were more common in his main playing days. 

✅I accept your answer - even tho Cam was not at the same level of "oh lord, what?" as Dilfer.

[Flashsabre]

[PromoTheRobot]

Everyone says Brett Murray is too slow for the NHL but all he does is go to the net and scores goals for the Amerks. He's basically a human backboard. Are we sure we can't use that in Buffalo? 23 goals, 39 points in 51 games.

Edited Tuesday at 01:25 PM by PromoTheRobot

[ska-T Palmtown]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Everyone says Brett Murray is too slow for the NHL but all he does is go to the net and scores goals for the Amerks. He's basically a human backboard. Are we sure we can't use that in Buffalo? 23 goals, 39 points in 51 games.

Sounds like Dave Andreychuk

[Weave]

7 minutes ago, ska-T Palmtown said:

Sounds like Dave Andreychuk

Sounds like Dave Andreychick with alot less skill.

[Jorcus]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Everyone says Brett Murray is too slow for the NHL but all he does is go to the net and scores goals for the Amerks. He's basically a human backboard. Are we sure we can't use that in Buffalo? 23 goals, 39 points in 51 games.

The Sabres could certainly use a another big player who will stand in front of a goalie blocking vision.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Weave said:

Sounds like Dave Andreychick with alot less skill.

Putting pucks in the net is kind of a skill, no?

[Weave]

17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Putting pucks in the net is kind of a skill, no?

Murray has putting pucks in an AHL net skill.  Let’s not get carried away.

[PromoTheRobot]

27 minutes ago, Weave said:

Murray has putting pucks in an AHL net skill.  Let’s not get carried away.

All I'm saying is he does what we all say we want Sabres players to do. Go to the net and score. And he does that. His skill is being huge, getting in the goalies way and being in the right spot for shots to bounce off him.

[mjd1001]

2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Everyone says Brett Murray is too slow for the NHL but all he does is go to the net and scores goals for the Amerks. He's basically a human backboard. Are we sure we can't use that in Buffalo? 23 goals, 39 points in 51 games.

I haven't thought much about him lately, but for along time I would like him to get another stint in Buffalo.

HE is the player that should be given a shot on the PP instead of Cozens.  Just have him stand in front of the net, provide a screen, and bang away anytime there is a loose puck. I'd be willing to bet he scores more than 1 PP goal every 40 games (which is about what Cozens give you for his CAREER).

[Weave]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

All I'm saying is he does what we all say we want Sabres players to do. Go to the net and score. And he does that. His skill is being huge, getting in the goalies way and being in the right spot for shots to bounce off him.

The team has seen his skill set and determined that it is an AHL level skill set.  The AHL is riddled with guys who show well at that level and can’t do it at the NHL level.

I can’t believe this is even a discussion point.

Edited Tuesday at 05:11 PM by Weave

[inkman]

12 minutes ago, Weave said:

The team has seen his skill set and determined that it is an AHL level skill set.  The AHL is riddled with guys who show well at that level and can’t do it at the NHL level.

I can’t believe this is even a discussion point.

Yeah and if someone though Big Murr had the goods to make the show, he would have gotten that opportunity.  He’s on at least his second if not third contract with the Sabres.  If he can’t make the last place Sabres, I’m not sure he deserves a chance elsewhere. 

[K-9]

It is beyond obvious that Murray is a career AHLer. For all his bigness and net front presence, he isn’t a dominant player even at the A level. Better for the Sabres to bring up a prospect that has actual NHL hopes because they’ve seen everything Murray is and then some. 

[Weave]

38 minutes ago, inkman said:

Yeah and if someone though Big Murr had the goods to make the show, he would have gotten that opportunity.  He’s on at least his second if not third contract with the Sabres.  If he can’t make the last place Sabres, I’m not sure he deserves a chance elsewhere. 

He did get 2 callups, and every preseason he has an opportunity to beat someone out for a job, so he’s had opportunities, and couldn’t stick.

Pounding the door for Murray is desperation.

[Jorcus]

It's the waiver rules that put a crimp on taking another look at guys like Murray and Rousek. Both have something the Sabres are lacking. In Murray's case it's a big net front presence. As for Rousek he is an excellent play maker for Rochester. I think some place somewhere these guys could be roll players in The NHL. For now the Sabres have taken the easy route calling up Kozak or Rosen who are waiver exempt. I wish I could see these guys back in the NHL for a real look but I doubt it is going to happen. 

[inkman]

42 minutes ago, Weave said:

He did get 2 callups, and every preseason he has an opportunity to beat someone out for a job, so he’s had opportunities, and couldn’t stick.

Pounding the door for Murray is desperation.

We shouldn’t forget, his big problem is foot speed.  We saw last season what a lack of foot speed can cause, see Kyle Okposo.  Brett just can’t keep up.  For a team that struggles mightily on the back check, having a player that just physically can’t get there is a problem.  
 

That being said, I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him one last chance but I think the org has already made up their minds. 

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

We shouldn’t forget, his big problem is foot speed.  We saw last season what a lack of foot speed can cause, see Kyle Okposo.  Brett just can’t keep up.  For a team that struggles mightily on the back check, having a player that just physically can’t get there is a problem.  
 

That being said, I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him one last chance but I think the org has already made up their minds. 

Isnt foot speed and quickness a major reason that Novikov is still in the AHL?