PickaPecaPickles Posted January 5 Report Posted January 5 7 hours ago, JohnC said: He's the guy on the roof. Great, they can bring him up to play while the team burns. Quote
JohnC Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, PickaPecaPickles said: Great, they can bring him up to play while the team burns. The franchise has already been burned to a crisp. The ashes are what is left of this smoking carcass. ☠️ Edited January 6 by JohnC Quote
K-9 Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 Amerks keep the heater going with a 5-1 romp over the Comets. 1 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 Devon Levi is 12-2-1, 2.12 GGA, .918%. 1 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 16 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: Devon Levi is 12-2-1, 2.12 GGA, .918%. is that good? Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 2 hours ago, pi2000 said: is that good? Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 11 Report Posted January 11 9 hours ago, pi2000 said: is that good? 12-2-1 is good. Quote
K-9 Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Looks like Levi got lit up tonight to the tune of a 6-2 loss to snap the Amerks streak. Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 27 minutes ago, K-9 said: Looks like Levi got lit up tonight to the tune of a 6-2 loss to snap the Amerks streak. Old friend Conor Sheary was the first star for the Crunch. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 1 hour ago, K-9 said: Looks like Levi got lit up tonight to the tune of a 6-2 loss to snap the Amerks streak. Odd. He got the win Friday night, but it wasn't a shutout. Why give him back-to-back nights? Just roll with the backup. Or more importantly, why is the backup Sandstrom and not Houser? 1 Quote
SabreFinn Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 Haven't seen Rochester play, but the players they have there, like Östlund and Helenius, have a better defensive awareness in their hockey mind than Sabres highest paid stars. How high their overall ceiling might take them is however yet to be seen. To me it seems like there has been better focus on defense in the draft the last years, with exeption for Power. Quote
inkman Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/12/2025 at 3:35 AM, SabreFinn said: Haven't seen Rochester play, but the players they have there, like Östlund and Helenius, have a better defensive awareness in their hockey mind than Sabres highest paid stars. How high their overall ceiling might take them is however yet to be seen. To me it seems like there has been better focus on defense in the draft the last years, with exeption for Power. Östlund has been injured most of the season. Based on the limited amount I’ve seen him, he is years and I mean years away from being an NHL player. 1 Quote
SabreFinn Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 32 minutes ago, inkman said: Östlund has been injured most of the season. Based on the limited amount I’ve seen him, he is years and I mean years away from being an NHL player. I believe you. He could be used as a sweetener in a trade imo. There are so many players fighting for a few spots. Quote
K-9 Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 3 hours ago, inkman said: Call em up “…Novikov said, “If you’re gonna come at me, you’re gonna eat my stick.”” 😂 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, SabreFinn said: I believe you. He could be used as a sweetener in a trade imo. There are so many players fighting for a few spots. With his 1st round pedigree, he should have been traded as part of a package for an established player a LONG time ago. In the year or so after he was drafted, it was very clear that we already had too many young forwards... some of whom were either older and more established (Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Cozens), or simply just better hockey players (Benson, Kulich, Savoie, and now Helenius). Now he's worth next to nothing. Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said: With his 1st round pedigree, he should have been traded as part of a package for an established player a LONG time ago. In the year or so after he was drafted, it was very clear that we already had too many young forwards... some of whom were either older and more established (Quinn, Peterka, Krebs, Cozens), or simply just better hockey players (Benson, Kulich, Savoie, and now Helenius). Now he's worth next to nothing. Wow man, a 20 year old in his first season in North America and banged up is worth next to nothing? Against his peers at the World Juniors last year, he was Sweden’s best player on a silver medal team. I think he’s worthy of some patience and development. 2 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 9 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said: Wow man, a 20 year old in his first season in North America and banged up is worth next to nothing? Against his peers at the World Juniors last year, he was Sweden’s best player on a silver medal team. I think he’s worthy of some patience and development. There's no room on our roster for him. Helenius has easily passed him as have some of the deeper picks that are actually big enough to play a checking role. And banged up or not... his output has been nothing short of awful. He might be worth a case of peanuts at this point. 1 Quote
SabreFinn Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 6 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said: There's no room on our roster for him. Helenius has easily passed him as have some of the deeper picks that are actually big enough to play a checking role. And banged up or not... his output has been nothing short of awful. He might be worth a case of peanuts at this point. So then we might just keep him and see how he can stand the competition? Quote
Archie Lee Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 14 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said: Wow man, a 20 year old in his first season in North America and banged up is worth next to nothing? Against his peers at the World Juniors last year, he was Sweden’s best player on a silver medal team. I think he’s worthy of some patience and development. Östlund still has worth to the Sabres. We used a mid-1st rd pick on him. He was highly regarded. Still makes Pronman’s list of best U23 players (Pronman has Östlund in the same grouping as Kulich, Helenius and Benson; I like Pronman, but I think he overvalued Östlund in that grouping, and maybe undervalues the other 3). I think Östlund’s value as a trade chip has likely fallen to less than our 2nd rd pick though. There is no need for us to be anything but patient here, for the next two seasons. Edited January 15 by Archie Lee 1 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Archie Lee said: Östlund still has worth to the Sabres. We used a mid-1st rd pick on him. He was highly regarded. Still makes Pronman’s list of best U23 players (Pronman has Östlund in the same grouping as Kulich, Helenius and Benson; I like Pronman, but I think he overvalued Östlund in that grouping, and maybe undervalues the other 3). I think Östlund’s value as a trade chip has likely fallen to less than our 2nd rd pick though. There is no need for us to be anything but patient here, for the next two seasons. He wasn't that highly regarded to use a mid-1st round pick. Our genius GM thought he knew better and wasted the pick. Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 47 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: He wasn't that highly regarded to use a mid-1st round pick. Our genius GM thought he knew better and wasted the pick. Well, all of the next forwards that were drafted after Noah are all in the AHL until you get to Kulich. 🤷♂️ Much too early to proclaim anything on any of these guys, but you do you. 2 Quote
Archie Lee Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said: He wasn't that highly regarded to use a mid-1st round pick. Our genius GM thought he knew better and wasted the pick. For clarity, I'm 1/2 on your side in my agreement that Östlund's value has diminished, though not to being worthless. Also, jumping from consensus #22 (which is what McKenzie's rankings basically are) up to #16, can barely even be considered "a reach". Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, JoeSchmoe said: He wasn't that highly regarded to use a mid-1st round pick. Our genius GM thought he knew better and wasted the pick. The difference between pick 16 and 22 in the draft is minimal at best. That said, I still would have drafted Ohgren because he was a very different skillset compared to Östlund. Nathan Gaucher was taken 22 overall and he is in year 2 of the AHL. He has 6pts in 35 games. Idk if Östlund will make it, he isn't big enough or strong enough but the underlying skills (skating, handling, positioning, passing) are all there. Honestly if you flip Kulich and Östlund's order, it looks way better. Either way, Östlund probably has 2 more AHL years left before we need to worry about him and that's fine. If they trade him, so be it, if they don't maybe he pans out. All the players taken between Östlund and Kulich. People can decide for themselves which one's they like better. Edited January 15 by LGR4GM 2 Quote
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