Pimlach Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 2 hours ago, Doohickie said: I think they're out of phase. I would say we were 26th last year and higher (maybe not 8th but higher) this year. They were simply way over rated last year by getting 8th place. They were way under the cap and they added little in the off season. You can rate Adams for his 4 years and it would have to be bottom 20 percent of the league. Hands tied or not, he has not done enough. Hopefully this year he has, finally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 8 hours ago, Demoted said: Are they going to make the playoffs with this roster? In my opinion yes. If we had Levi's production for Comrie's disaster last year it would have been close. Better coaching, better roster I say yes. But we will see. If Josh Allen tears his ACL in practice the Bills won't be making the playoffs either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 6 hours ago, LabattBlue said: “We will be ok”? What does this even mean? Very simply, if we stay relatively healthy with our top goal scores and net minders. This is a playoff team. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 7 hours ago, Doohickie said: I think they're out of phase. I would say we were 26th last year and higher (maybe not 8th but higher) this year. No, I don't think so. There was a lot of optimism last year because of being a point out the year before. They blew it though with their stand still development path so pessimism crept in. There's an optimism bump now because of Ruff's hiring and the small moves they made but I think a lot of people are in the "show me" mood like I am. After 13 years anything above 30 is generous. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 56 minutes ago, _Q_ said: Very simply, if we stay relatively healthy with our top goal scores and net minders. This is a playoff team. That isn't nearly sufficient. In addition we need several young players to step up and be more than they've been. We need Ruff to create a proper team defensive system and we need the players to buy in to it. We need at least one of the goalies to play top level consistent goaltending. We need to be more physical and able to handle physicality better. We need new leadership to emerge and gel. The team has to start hating to lose for real and start working their ***** off on a nightly basis. Our top scorers have to be top scorers again and we need to beat division opponents in regulation and make home ice an actual advantage not a liability. It's a lot, but it's all possible. Will it happen? No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohicksie Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 47 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: No, I don't think so. There was a lot of optimism last year because of being a point out the year before. They blew it though with their stand still development path so pessimism crept in. There's an optimism bump now because of Ruff's hiring and the small moves they made but I think a lot of people are in the "show me" mood like I am. Right. But the ratings are looking back.... when they were 8th they were looking back at almost making the playoffs the previous year. I would say that while Adams could have done more, he did a better job of addressing the holes in the lineup this offseason, yet they're rated as 26th? That 26th is a reflection of last season, not this offseason. It's a rating with a severe lag. 26th is a reflection of Kevyn did last offseason, not this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 18 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Right. But the ratings are looking back.... when they were 8th they were looking back at almost making the playoffs the previous year. I would say that while Adams could have done more, he did a better job of addressing the holes in the lineup this offseason, yet they're rated as 26th? That 26th is a reflection of last season, not this offseason. It's a rating with a severe lag. 26th is a reflection of Kevyn did last offseason, not this one. I’m pretty sure they did the survey in the last few weeks and that I filled it out. Post all of our moves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowerYou Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 KA has done a decent job. My excitement rating going into the last 10 seasons has easily been a C- now it’s a B- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 3 hours ago, Doohickie said: Right. But the ratings are looking back.... when they were 8th they were looking back at almost making the playoffs the previous year. I would say that while Adams could have done more, he did a better job of addressing the holes in the lineup this offseason, yet they're rated as 26th? That 26th is a reflection of last season, not this offseason. It's a rating with a severe lag. 26th is a reflection of Kevyn did last offseason, not this one. I think there's a lag that's true, but would you really put them up to 8th now? That 8th last year was way too high and based on some sort of crazy optimism that wasn't really warranted. I mean on the Bruins site they're arguing that their 14th place ranking is too high because they haven't won the cup in over a decade. 8th for a team that hasn't been in the playoffs in 13 years was crazy and 26th seems far more reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohicksie Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said: would you really put them up to 8th now? I didn't say that. What I said was 12 hours ago, Doohickie said: I think they're out of phase. I would say we were 26th last year and higher (maybe not 8th but higher) this year. And to expand on the parenthetic, maybe not 8th but higher than the previous season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 I still say 26th is about right. Until they make the playoffs no way should they be much higher than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortuCool Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, PerreaultForever said: I still say 26th is about right. Until they make the playoffs no way should they be much higher than that. This comment can be rephrased: “I am right … until I’m wrong”. - Is the original supposed to stand as an intelligent statement? - Does it help us formulate a cogent view of what to expect from the team going forward? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 20 hours ago, RochesterExpat said: I didn't realize Thomas Harley was still unsigned. Talk about one of the best "under the radar" guys from the last season. Dallas don't have to cap space to give him a long term deal, they need to go bridge until some big contracts come of the books in 3 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSeatVertigo Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 19 hours ago, mjd1001 said: I don't see an obvious hole that they can still make a move to fill. Let me rephrase...I do now see what THEY think is an obvious hole they want to fill. If an opportunity came along to get better, I'm sure they would package something to do that. But at this point, I think they are 'content' to take what they have into camp. the better free agent with no trade clauses simply do not want to play for this franchise, similar to the Bills during the drought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, PortuCool said: This comment can be rephrased: “I am right … until I’m wrong”. - Is the original supposed to stand as an intelligent statement? - Does it help us formulate a cogent view of what to expect from the team going forward? This is obnoxious. Do not communicate like this here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 6 hours ago, PortuCool said: This comment can be rephrased: “I am right … until I’m wrong”. - Is the original supposed to stand as an intelligent statement? - Does it help us formulate a cogent view of what to expect from the team going forward? Making a point that you are right until proven wrong is a credible argument. It may be an irritating argument to be constantly subjected to, but being right with respect to the past and up to the present, if can't be refuted, could be considered to be a reasonable position to take. I have a different view but that doesn't mean that his view should be dismissed out of hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortuCool Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. Do not communicate like this here. It is demonstrably lacking in mental acuity. If that’s obnoxious then ban me now. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 16 hours ago, _Q_ said: In my opinion yes. If we had Levi's production for Comrie's disaster last year it would have been close. Better coaching, better roster I say yes. But we will see. If Josh Allen tears his ACL in practice the Bills won't be making the playoffs either. You can’t compare Josh Allen and his impact on the Bills to anyone on the Sabres. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortuCool Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. Do not communicate like this here. Chow dung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohicksie Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 9 minutes ago, PortuCool said: Chow dung. We barely knew ye.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 10 hours ago, PortuCool said: This comment can be rephrased: “I am right … until I’m wrong”. - Is the original supposed to stand as an intelligent statement? - Does it help us formulate a cogent view of what to expect from the team going forward? No, it's I'm right until PROVEN wrong. 13 years of futility with off season hope and promises and disappointments every year. The bar is so low for this fanbase people are actually excited about Beck Malentsyn ffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Q_ Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 6 hours ago, nfreeman said: This is obnoxious. Do not communicate like this here. Are you this fragile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 Looks like a new summer troll invasion has started. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 The Athletic Rest of the Ranking 1 Florida 2 Dallas 3 Tampa 4 Utah 5 Vancouver 6 Montreal 7. New Jersey 8. Carolina 9 Colorado 10. Nashville 11. Vegas 12. Chicago 13. San Jose 14 Boston 15 Washington 16 Anaheim 17 New York Rangers 18. Calgary 19. Winnipeg 20, Philadelphia 21. Detroit 22. Ottawa 23. St Louis 24 Minnesota 25. Edmonton 26. Buffalo 27. Seattle 28. Columbus 29. Pittsburgh 30 Toronto 31. Los Angeles 32. New York Islanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted August 8 Report Share Posted August 8 8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: No, it's I'm right until PROVEN wrong. 13 years of futility with off season hope and promises and disappointments every year. The bar is so low for this fanbase people are actually excited about Beck Malentsyn ffs. I actually like the addition of Malenstyn alot, not because of the lack of moves we made getting a top 6 but because we finally have toughness in pretty much all of our lines right now aside from line 1 that is (I like Tuch but I wouldn't really call him tough but an argument can be made he adds toughness to our top line). Cozens line 2, the entire 4th line , Greenway/Benson on line 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.