PromoTheRobot Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 UPL carrying Joki on his shoulders at Henri's wedding. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 (edited) 16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Just curious. How long was Miller "good" when he got that deal? Signed in 2008 for 2009 - 2013 - $32M approx. I would say he was excellent for all of that contract. He was traded as part of the complete melt down to St. Louis with Ott in late February 2014. He got 1 more $6M per year contact from Vancouver (2014 - 2016) and then a few more from the Ducks to close out his career. I would say he was good for at least most of his 3 years in Vancouver. The Ducks signed him for 2 years at $2M per in 2017. Then for 1 year for $1M for 2019 and another for 2020 (at age 40). Still listed as UFA even though he retired. EDIT TO ADD: I see that you were asking about prior to the big contract in 2009 ... in 2006 he signed for 3 years and $18M ... 2005 (lockout year - $500K) Before that a 1 year Rookie Contract for $1M. So, I would say Miller was good for maybe a year or 2 before he got his big contract - not a lot unlike 6K. Edited July 28 by Sabres Fan in NS more goodly ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 20 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: Signed in 2008 for 2009 - 2013 - $32M approx. I would say he was excellent for all of that contract. He was traded as part of the complete melt down to St. Louis with Ott in late February 2014. He got 1 more $6M per year contact from Vancouver (2014 - 2016) and then a few more from the Ducks to close out his career. I would say he was good for at least most of his 3 years in Vancouver. The Ducks signed him for 2 years at $2M per in 2017. Then for 1 year for $1M for 2019 and another for 2020 (at age 40). Still listed as UFA even though he retired. EDIT TO ADD: I see that you were asking about prior to the big contract in 2009 ... in 2006 he signed for 3 years and $18M ... 2005 (lockout year - $500K) Before that a 1 year Rookie Contract for $1M. So, I would say Miller was good for maybe a year or 2 before he got his big contract - not a lot unlike 6K. What I meant was how good was Miller before he got his five 5 year deal? I want to know if there is an analogy with UPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 (edited) I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and don’t know where to put it so why not here. At this point, would you trade UPL for peak Marty Biron? I think I would, but won’t be surprised if the answered changed by EOY. Edited July 28 by #freejame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 4 hours ago, #freejame said: would you trade UPL for peak Marty Biron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 8 hours ago, Doohickie said: Marty’s best season and his early career pedigree are both higher than anything UPL has done. Marty never got the respect he deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 16 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: What I meant was how good was Miller before he got his five 5 year deal? I want to know if there is an analogy with UPL. See my edit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 3 hours ago, #freejame said: Marty’s best season and his early career pedigree are both higher than anything UPL has done. Marty never got the respect he deserved. Selective memory. Marty was always decent enough to be in the NHL. He was never a true #1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Selective memory. Marty was always decent enough to be in the NHL. He was never a true #1. Yup. Pretty consistently one of the best 30 goalies in the league, but rarely in the top 15-20. He was an awesome backup and a poor man's starter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 29 minutes ago, Taro T said: Yup. Pretty consistently one of the best 30 goalies in the league, but rarely in the top 15-20. He was an awesome backup and a poor man's starter. This is exactly my point. Going into this season for this season alone, would you prefer Marty and his consistently top 30 play or do you want to roll the dice with UPL who doesn’t have the track record as of yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted July 29 Report Share Posted July 29 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Selective memory. Marty was always decent enough to be in the NHL. He was never a true #1. Marty played 72 games in 01-02 in front of a bad Sabres team with a .915 GAA. His highest GSAA is higher than UPLs highest GSAA and he has multiple seasons of a solid starters workload. I don’t think it’s selective memory at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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