GASabresIUFAN Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Good thing we traded a 2nd for Malenstyn My wife and I were driving back to Atlanta from Florida when this trade went down and I almost threw-up my Chick-fil-a. On what planet was Beck Malenstyn worth a 2nd rd pick. Edited July 6 by GASabresIUFAN 2 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: They earn the right to do that.... No one had said otherwise Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 It was a statement, not an argument.... lol 1 Quote
RochesterExpat Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 It’s a pretty standard practice. I don’t know why we make such a big deal out of it. Only one or two players a year actually go to arbitration. In some years it’s none. And when I say “we” I mean the people on Twitter and Reddit having a meltdown that UPL filed Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: It was a statement, not an argument.... lol Fair Quote
nfreeman Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 The Sabres having 2 out of the NHL total of 14 guys elect arbitration, comprised of their almost-certain starting goalie and a guy they just traded a pretty valuable draft pick for, isn't a great look. I sure hope they sign both to decent contracts before those hearings. 2 Quote
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, nfreeman said: The Sabres having 2 out of the NHL total of 14 guys elect arbitration, comprised of their almost-certain starting goalie and a guy they just traded a pretty valuable draft pick for, isn't a great look. I sure hope they sign both to decent contracts before those hearings. Just seems like business. Malenstyn has been in the org less than a week, has had very little time to negotiate and has to protect his bargaining position. Luukkonen has one of the best arb cases out there. Just seems like it’s about getting a fair contract. 8 2 Quote
Archie Lee Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, nfreeman said: The Sabres having 2 out of the NHL total of 14 guys elect arbitration, comprised of their almost-certain starting goalie and a guy they just traded a pretty valuable draft pick for, isn't a great look. I sure hope they sign both to decent contracts before those hearings. I can’t say I have ever viewed a player opting for arbitration as a negative as it relates to team’s reputation. 4 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: Just seems like business. Malenstyn has been in the org less than a week, has had very little time to negotiate and has to protect his bargaining position. Luukkonen has one of the best arb cases out there. Just seems like it’s about getting a fair contract. I can see it for the FNG, but I kinda think they should've been able to make a deal with UPL without him needing to elect arbitration. It'll probably work out fine. The Ullmark debacle looms in the background though. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, Archie Lee said: I can’t say I have ever viewed a player opting for arbitration as a negative as it relates to team’s reputation. Get with the program. 3 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 6 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I can see it for the FNG, but I kinda think they should've been able to make a deal with UPL without him needing to elect arbitration. It'll probably work out fine. The Ullmark debacle looms in the background though. I think this is the best move for all involved. The Sabres get more runway to see if UPL is “him.” UPL gets a raise and if he runs it back, will have a nice long term contract waiting for him (here or somewhere else). Swayman elected for arbitration last year and it has gone well for him. He’s about to get PAID. Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Not liking the UPL situation because he’s likely looking to gouge us. 1 2 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 1 minute ago, thewookie1 said: Not liking the UPL situation because he’s likely looking to gouge us. What happened to all the Skinner money Terry was going to bank? Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: What happened to all the Skinner money Terry was going to bank? It’s not the dollars it’s the cap 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 Kevyn Adams sitting in a chair in the dark as the lights turn on at key bank, as Malenstyn enters the room.. ”I thought you said you wanted to be here, Beck?” 13 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: What happened to all the Skinner money Terry was going to bank? It’s still unspent Quote
tom webster Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 55 minutes ago, dudacek said: Just seems like business. Malenstyn has been in the org less than a week, has had very little time to negotiate and has to protect his bargaining position. Luukkonen has one of the best arb cases out there. Just seems like it’s about getting a fair contract. Yep, it actually usually helps negotiations. The team knows exactly what the player will settle for and can structure a long term deal around that number. 1 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 52 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Not liking the UPL situation because he’s likely looking to gouge us. Idk how he can. If he goes to arbitration, he's not getting a massive payday 1 Quote
Weave Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Thorny said: Kevyn Adams sitting in a chair in the dark as the lights turn on at key bank, as Malenstyn enters the room.. ”I thought you said you wanted to be here, Beck?” How the ***** did I end up with that gif in your post? *puts drink down* Edited July 5 by Weave 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted July 5 Report Posted July 5 I'm not quite sure how arbitration works but Joseph Woll got 3.66M then UPl should at least be 4.6M, he nearly doubled Woll in games played plus had better save % and goals against. Beck Malenstyn made 762K AAV so what will he go up to 1M at most? Not terrible imo. 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 6 Report Posted July 6 20 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said: UPl should at least be 4.6M, Arbitration is usually for a 1 or 2 year deal. On a one year deal, my guess is the Sabres come in under $3.5. $4.6 is probably the area for a 4-5 year deal. We have to remember that UPL's season was his first good one in pro hockey (AHL/NHL). Malenstyn has no case. He is a 1st year NHL player at 26. If he thinks he's getting Lafferty type money he is out of his mind. The projection has him at 1.5 for a year 2 years. Her isn't worth that. 1 Quote
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