Cascade Youth Posted July 1 Report Posted July 1 (edited) That is actually kind of hilarious. Edited July 1 by Cascade Youth Quote
Thorner Posted July 1 Report Posted July 1 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Im so pissed off, he litterally weakened our top 9 in 4 months by buying out skinner and trading Mittelstadt and just told our young guys spots are open for free without having to work for it. I’m on record as not wanting to buy out Skinner, but Casey still stings more currently for whatever reason Hoping for a big year from Byram. We need it! Edited July 1 by Thorny 2 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 1 Report Posted July 1 24 minutes ago, Taro T said: Agree very much w/ the 1st paragraph. But since Eichel walked, what young player has Adams alienated? This off-season may be alienating someone. But that hasn't been made public if it has happened. Mittelstadt wanted to be here and Skinner (not young, but still) did too. Alienating comes in different forms -- how the players are treated, what they're offered, and how they're communicated with. (And it should never be made public by the front office.) But, if you look at the contracts and trades and every time GMKA says, "wanted to be here", you can infer how he feels, or doesn't, about his players. Ullmark - yes, wanted out for personal reasons as well. But he could've been given a starter's extension before his final Sabres season even began. Portillo - The franchise anointed Levi the savior immediately. Portillo knew he wasn't going to be given a fair competition even for AHL starter time here (and his AHL numbers last year were great). He's still a good goalie prospect. UPL - He was in complete limbo at the end of 22-23, sitting behind Levi and Comrie. And this summer, the Sabres simply qualify him rather than going for something long-term immediately. Reinhart - Only offered a bridge (granted, JBott did it first). Montour - Maybe he demanded out, maybe not. But he was still a talented young right-handed D-man who was deemed expendable. Mittelstadt - Wanted to be here, played a position of need, led the team in scoring... still got shopped anyway. 1 Quote
Carmel Corn Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 Just listened to the press conference....GMKA isn't qualified to even be the GM of an AHL team. Pegula is the absolute most incompetent owner in the entire league....it's not about winning to him, but rather him trying to prove he's the smarter than everybody else. Somebody in WNY politics needs to create a new law to force an incompetent sports team owner to have to sell the team if the public votes demand it. 1 1 2 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 minute ago, DarthEbriate said: Alienating comes in different forms -- how the players are treated, what they're offered, and how they're communicated with. (And it should never be made public by the front office.) But, if you look at the contracts and trades and every time GMKA says, "wanted to be here", you can infer how he feels, or doesn't, about his players. Ullmark - yes, wanted out for personal reasons as well. But he could've been given a starter's extension before his final Sabres season even began. Portillo - The franchise anointed Levi the savior immediately. Portillo knew he wasn't going to be given a fair competition even for AHL starter time here (and his AHL numbers last year were great). He's still a good goalie prospect. UPL - He was in complete limbo at the end of 22-23, sitting behind Levi and Comrie. And this summer, the Sabres simply qualify him rather than going for something long-term immediately. Reinhart - Only offered a bridge (granted, JBott did it first). Montour - Maybe he demanded out, maybe not. But he was still a talented young right-handed D-man who was deemed expendable. Mittelstadt - Wanted to be here, played a position of need, led the team in scoring... still got shopped anyway. Ullmark - hadn’t played a full season until that last year. Would of been extremely risky to give starters money to a guy who was injured 2 months every season. Portillo - there were rumors about him running even prior to Levi’s arrival. He was offered a contract the year Power came up and he stayed. UPL - hadn’t earned squat going into last season. Like Ullmark he was frequently hurt and had 1 good month to his name. Reinhart - a tragedy of circumstance; bridged by Botts and then bridged during and likely due to COVID. Seemed to leave on a good foot however. Montour - badly used by Krueger and thus ended up a true casualty of Krueger’s time here. Mitts was likely part locker room shakeup and part desperation for another Top 4 Dman. We’ve also been more than accommodating to vets and others looking for deadline opportunities 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Ullmark - hadn’t played a full season until that last year. Would of been extremely risky to give starters money to a guy who was injured 2 months every season. Portillo - there were rumors about him running even prior to Levi’s arrival. He was offered a contract the year Power came up and he stayed. UPL - hadn’t earned squat going into last season. Like Ullmark he was frequently hurt and had 1 good month to his name. Reinhart - a tragedy of circumstance; bridged by Botts and then bridged during and likely due to COVID. Seemed to leave on a good foot however. Montour - badly used by Krueger and thus ended up a true casualty of Krueger’s time here. Mitts was likely part locker room shakeup and part desperation for another Top 4 Dman. We’ve also been more than accommodating to vets and others looking for deadline opportunities A tragedy of circumstance lol there were lots of issues with covid that could be deemed tragedies but certainly not that they were WRONG about bridging Reinhart during Covid. It would have paid off. Other players were paid. Other teams paid players. You dismiss the variable of choice wantonly And clearly the risk of NOT paying Ullmark was greater. What team has been burned by Ullmark so far besides us? 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 12 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Alienating comes in different forms -- how the players are treated, what they're offered, and how they're communicated with. (And it should never be made public by the front office.) But, if you look at the contracts and trades and every time GMKA says, "wanted to be here", you can infer how he feels, or doesn't, about his players. Ullmark - yes, wanted out for personal reasons as well. But he could've been given a starter's extension before his final Sabres season even began. Portillo - The franchise anointed Levi the savior immediately. Portillo knew he wasn't going to be given a fair competition even for AHL starter time here (and his AHL numbers last year were great). He's still a good goalie prospect. UPL - He was in complete limbo at the end of 22-23, sitting behind Levi and Comrie. And this summer, the Sabres simply qualify him rather than going for something long-term immediately. Reinhart - Only offered a bridge (granted, JBott did it first). Montour - Maybe he demanded out, maybe not. But he was still a talented young right-handed D-man who was deemed expendable. Mittelstadt - Wanted to be here, played a position of need, led the team in scoring... still got shopped anyway. Reinhart, Montour, and Ullmark ALL were gone before Eichel. Portillo MIGHT have walked regardless of whether Levi was in the fold. There were rumors long before he was traded that he wasn't high on staying in Buffalo. Leaving UPL who, according to Adams, absolutely wants to be in Buffalo. So, HE hasn't been alienated yet. And also leaving Mittelstadt, who by all accounts wanted to stay in Buffalo until he was dealt. Again, where are the alienated players post-Eichel leaving? Quote
PotentPowerPlay21 Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 Kevyn Adams wants to be harder to play against. LOL. Why did you draft so many tiny players over the last few years. Isak Rosen was a first round pick. What were the Sabres thinking? These errors are the fault of Terry Pegula and Kevyn Adams. How many years have to go by before KA realizes he's at fault. 1 Quote
Turbo44 Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: Im so pissed off, he litterally weakened our top 9 in 4 months by buying out skinner and trading Mittelstadt and just told our young guys spots are open for free without having to work for it. July 1st….regular season start tomorrow? if it’s the same roster on October, then yes Quote
B-U-F-F-A-L-O Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 4 hours ago, LGR4GM said: He’s obviously lost it, if he ever had it, he needs to be taken out…. 1 hour ago, Thorny said: I’m on record as not wanting to buy out Skinner, but Casey still stings more currently for whatever reason Hoping for a big year from Byram. We need it! Buying out Skinner WAS the correct move but we HAD to replace him! LOL, KA is terrible. We absolutely had to replace Mitts too. We did not. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/breaking-down-the-winners-and-losers-of-a-chaotic-free-agent-fre~2950438 Button roasts Adams 4 Quote
apuszczalowski Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 2 hours ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said: I’ll take that bet all day. The guys picking up those PP minutes and OFZ starts will like this move. The only message from the organization this sends is “if you want ice time on this team you better play both sides of the puck and you better hate losing.” The Sabres players aren’t sitting around dejected after this trade saying “who’s gonna score those goals now?” No they are saying “if I get a shot at the PP or top 6 minutes I’m gonna do everything I can to keep it or else Ruff is going to try someone else” Or they are thinking "I wonder how I can get bought out and end up on a playoff/Cup team?" Quote
... Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 27 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/breaking-down-the-winners-and-losers-of-a-chaotic-free-agent-fre~2950438 Button roasts Adams Button goes on Peters' show, though. He's like the Jim Cramer of the NHL. 1 1 Quote
TRIP65 Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 We spend 13 years in HELL and last 3-4 really building Rochester to keep us Supplied. Sabres raided Rochester 2 years ago and we are reaping rewards 3 years later where We have 5 of our Top 6 players. Also have Benson 1 year of Experience. Rochester is Loaded with 5-8 players 1 year away and maybe a Draft this year that could bring us a True Center and RW Defensive man. We are getting Levi, probably Ryan Johnson this year. Top 6 might get Savoie (minors), maybe one of Rousek, Rosen or Kulich for Bottom 6. Amerks have 3-4 guys 1 year away both on Offense and Defense. I would say this is GREAT returns Be great to add Top Winger Vet that produces every year. We have Prospects to give too. My Favorite will be Sam Bennett to spread FEAR in our opponents, next Nick Foligno, then Alex Iafallo or Kyle Conner from Jets We have Prospects to get this done if that is what Teams want. Also have all of next years picks we don't need. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 37 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/breaking-down-the-winners-and-losers-of-a-chaotic-free-agent-fre~2950438 Button roasts Adams Craig Button thinks that? This, more than anything Adams has done over the last week, gives me real hope we are going to make the playoffs next year 3 2 1 Quote
apuszczalowski Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: Im so pissed off, he litterally weakened our top 9 in 4 months by buying out skinner and trading Mittelstadt and just told our young guys spots are open for free without having to work for it. I have said it for years, no prospect has ever been ruined by spending some extra time in the minors. And having prospects blocked by good players on the NHL team is a VERY GOOD problem to have. If a prospect is blocked, you can trade away the veteran if you feel the prospect will be even better, or use the prospect in a deal to obtain another assett or upgrade somewhere else. If theres something that Buffalo should have learned by now watching theleague, theres always ways of getting around the Cap. Theres usuaully a few teams that will take bad contracts during a rebuild, or ways of getting below the cap instead of just not spending to it. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 9 minutes ago, TRIP65 said: We spend 13 years in HELL and last 3-4 really building Rochester to keep us Supplied. Sabres raided Rochester 2 years ago and we are reaping rewards 3 years later where We have 5 of our Top 6 players. Also have Benson 1 year of Experience. Rochester is Loaded with 5-8 players 1 year away and maybe a Draft this year that could bring us a True Center and RW Defensive man. We are getting Levi, probably Ryan Johnson this year. Top 6 might get Savoie (minors), maybe one of Rousek, Rosen or Kulich for Bottom 6. Amerks have 3-4 guys 1 year away both on Offense and Defense. I would say this is GREAT returns Be great to add Top Winger Vet that produces every year. We have Prospects to give too. My Favorite will be Sam Bennett to spread FEAR in our opponents, next Nick Foligno, then Alex Iafallo or Kyle Conner from Jets We have Prospects to get this done if that is what Teams want. Also have all of next years picks we don't need. Me, looking for the rewards we are supposedly reaping 5 Quote
kas23 Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 4 hours ago, #freejame said: It saves Terry a buck, why would he regret it? This is pretty much all we have here. Pegula had $9M reasons for buying out Skinner. If we weren’t going to use the space created, it would’ve been better cap management to stash him in the press box each night. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 17 minutes ago, Thorny said: Craig Button thinks that? This, more than anything Adams has done over the last week, gives me real hope we are going to make the playoffs next year You should also like his liking TO's moves then. 😉 1 Quote
Mango Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: I’ve been critical of Adams and I still am. But in theory being a tougher team in general should help the onboarding of some of the kids as they come of age. That said this team needs Cozens, Thompson, and Tuch to get their games right. 2 Quote
Dryballs Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 (edited) We all thought our Sabres were gunna make the jump last year. .. Maybe they would have, had they added some of the type players that they added today. But it took Ruff pointing out the obvious for them to get some NHL players with guts/passion/balls. .. Adams biggest mistake was not doing it last year. ... Terry Pegula hires and pays a lot for people to run his teams. This is KA's last shot but I support his work for the most part. Edited July 2 by Dryballs 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: The good news…after Day 1 of free agency, Adams has not had to part with any of his beloved prospects, and also, no signings of 3 years or longer ensuring that… Thou shalt not block prospects. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Carmel Corn said: Just listened to the press conference....GMKA isn't qualified to even be the GM of an AHL team. Pegula is the absolute most incompetent owner in the entire league....it's not about winning to him, but rather him trying to prove he's the smarter than everybody else. Somebody in WNY politics needs to create a new law to force an incompetent sports team owner to have to sell the team if the public votes demand it. We would have zero teams then. 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted July 2 Report Posted July 2 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/breaking-down-the-winners-and-losers-of-a-chaotic-free-agent-fre~2950438 Button roasts Adams He’s not wrong though. When will he be bold to get this team over the hump. Stop this mentality of we always have to have money for extensions? Why? None of these guys have won anything. All these winning teams find ways to make it work. If he goes into the season with no more moves then he deserves to be canned. 3 Quote
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