ska-T Chitown Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: waivers, 2 way deals and of course LTIR all come into play still so I think there's not a lot of that out there really. I think the time to target cap squeezed teams was before free agency. A few teams still need to make cap floor I think. From so very shallow digging, there appear to be plenty of teams that are close to the cap and several of them still have some RFAs to sign ... we might still shake one loose! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 33 minutes ago, shrader said: But do we see two 20 goal seasons and 182 points from Rosen over the next 4 years? I’m still not sure we see any NHL time there just yet. Farabee's obviously better now and Rosen may never reach those heights, but that's not really my point; I was just saying he's a similar kind of player with a similar ceiling and doesn't really fill a need. He might be better than Zucker this year. He might be better than Benson. Or he might not. But he is a middle six left-wing, so its likely one of those guys your trying to upgrade by bringing him. He might score more, but he probably won't defend or grind more. Bringing in a Zegras or Ehlers are different because they re top 6 left wings and clear upgrades, so those moves make sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 5 hours ago, dudacek said: Didn’t we just have a draft thread overflowing with “no more small, skilled, perimeter forwards? Isn’t Farabee just Isak Rosen 3 or 4 years later? What am I missing about this guy? What makes you think Rosen is anything? Just about every trade scenario people on this board have proposed has them giving up Rosen so he's clearly not thought of overly highly here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Farabee has a significant contract. If we trade Krebs for him, I want them to take a bad contract like Clifton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 58 minutes ago, freester said: Farabee has a significant contract. If we trade Krebs for him, I want them to take a bad contract like Clifton Hes making 5x5 thats a very team friendly deal coming off 50 pts and 20 goals for the 24 year old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Rasmus_ said: Hes making 5x5 thats a very team friendly deal coming off 50 pts and 20 goals for the 24 year old. $5m/yr coming off the same surgery Eichel had that the Sabres wouldn't approve. Farabee went 26 games without scoring when he came back from the surgery. I don't see the Sabres trading for him. Go trade for a more of a sure thing instead of a maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 45 minutes ago, CTJoe said: $5m/yr coming off the same surgery Eichel had that the Sabres wouldn't approve. Farabee went 26 games without scoring when he came back from the surgery. I don't see the Sabres trading for him. Go trade for a more of a sure thing instead of a maybe We need more size. Hes too similar to our young prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, freester said: We need more size. Hes too similar to our young prospects Yep, plus it would look really hypocritical to trade for a player who had the same experimental spinal surgery you held jack over the coals over. Of course, the Sabres do a lot of stupid things, so nothing would surprise me with them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Just now, CTJoe said: Yep, plus it would look really hypocritical to trade for a player who had the same experimental spinal surgery you held jack over the coals over. Of course, the Sabres do a lot of stupid things, so nothing would surprise me with them I don't think was the surgery itself as much as it was being the one who would green light the surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: What makes you think Rosen is anything? Just about every trade scenario people on this board have proposed has them giving up Rosen so he's clearly not thought of overly highly here. Personally, I'm not very high on Rosen, for the same reasons I'm not very high on Farabee. My point is not that Rosen is good therefore we don't need Farabee, it's that I don't like Farabee as a player for the same reasons I don't like Rosen as a prospect. He's not good enough to be a good top 6er and not complete enough to be good middle-sixer, at least given the players we already have and the type of roster I'd like to see them build. Edited July 12 by dudacek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 Seeing some talk about Trouba. He any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doohickie Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, CTJoe said: $5m/yr coming off the same surgery Eichel had that the Sabres wouldn't approve. Farabee went 26 games without scoring when he came back from the surgery. I don't see the Sabres trading for him. Go trade for a more of a sure thing instead of a maybe Eichel didn't look great immediately after the surgery either. Perhaps a player takes time before they can play at full level afterward, like maybe the player doesn't fully trust the repair, or the surgery impairs neck movement/mobility until the scar tissue works out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Mr. Allen said: Seeing some talk about Trouba. He any good? He's dirty. He's a leader. His best hockey is behind him. As with so much in this world, depends upon the price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, Taro T said: He's dirty. He's a leader. His best hockey is behind him. As with so much in this world, depends upon the price. Two outta three ain't bad 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, dudacek said: Personally, I'm not very high on Rosen, for the same reasons I'm not very high on Farabee. My point is not that Rosen is good therefore we don't need Farabee, it's that I don't like Farabee as a player for the same reasons I don't like Rosen as a prospect. He's not good enough to be a good top 6er and not complete enough to be good middle-sixer, at least given the players we already have and the type of roster I'd like to see them build. Okay I can agree with this. I would suggest however, that Farabee is a proven NHL commodity and you already know what he brings at that level. He might do better in a different system but he's more of sure thing than Rosen. That would be the difference. A little more experience. I'm not crazy about the idea either, and I kind of want to avoid the guys Torts wants gone too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, Mr. Allen said: Seeing some talk about Trouba. He any good? We could absolutely use the physical play on defense. His leadership was good enough to be Captain on NYR as well Down year last season, maybe play him as a 4/5 role in the right situations and get the most out of it Would want NYR to retain some salary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumph_communes Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 What exactly is the allure of Trouba? It’s a lot of problems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: What exactly is the allure of Trouba? It’s a lot of problems You don't know the answer to this? He blows people up and if you have your head down or admire your pass you're going to get rocked into next week. Thus he strikes fear and hesitancy into some opponents which hampers their play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: We could absolutely use the physical play on defense. His leadership was good enough to be Captain on NYR as well Down year last season, maybe play him as a 4/5 role in the right situations and get the most out of it Would want NYR to retain some salary If we had him I'd have him paired with Power or possibly Dahlin. His physical play and defending opening up ice and options for the skilled partner who would be free to "wander" more and drive the play up ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: You don't know the answer to this? He blows people up and if you have your head down or admire your pass you're going to get rocked into next week. Thus he strikes fear and hesitancy into some opponents which hampers their play. Go look at his defensive metrics. That "some" must be a really small group. He's an overpaid #5 defender trending down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 Truba isn’t going anywhere unless his family situation has dramatically changed. I’m pretty sure he’s said as much recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Go look at his defensive metrics. That "some" must be a really small group. He's an overpaid #5 defender trending down. I do not believe there is interest from the Sabres anyways 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 39 minutes ago, #freejame said: Truba isn’t going anywhere unless his family situation has dramatically changed. I’m pretty sure he’s said as much recently. His Wife is in her final year of residency, it’s difficult to change programs after July 1st as most if not all spots are full at other hospitals. I do not blame him for not wanting to be moved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted July 13 Report Share Posted July 13 6 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Go look at his defensive metrics. That "some" must be a really small group. He's an overpaid #5 defender trending down. If you say so. I wouldn't want to question "metrics". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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