Doohicksie Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 4:30 PM, John Tucker said: Call me crazy but I foresee a breakout year for Krebs. I think getting away from whatever Granato’s system was will be good for him. Let's see how does with Lindy. It would be nice. Quote
Thorner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 (edited) 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Is the signing of Reimer an indication that Adams is going to let him and Levi compete for the backup job and/or is he insurance in case he can't get a deal done with UPL? I can see the Sabres starting the year with UPL and Reimer in Buffalo and Levi starting in Rochester so that he continues to play often. Levi then gets recalled for spot starts early in the year. I think they said the plan was UPL / Levi still. It’s good insurance for camp though where if there’s an injury or Reimer plays exceptionally well or Levi notedly poorly. It’s definitely a “little things” move to be proactive about the *inevitable* pitfalls of the coming season rather than reacting to them in the moment (and sometimes much too late) during the season, as if you were hoping they wouldn’t arise Edited July 3 by Thorny 1 Quote
dudacek Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Depth chart (not lines) as things stand Peterka Thompson Tuch Zucker Cozens Quinn Benson Krebs Greenway Malenstyn Lafferty Aube-Kubel Rousek Kulich Rosen Murray Östlund Savoie Wahlberg Dunne Jobst Kisakov Kozak Neuchev Nadeau Slaggert Warren Power Dahlin Byram Jokiharju Samuelsson Clifton Gilbert Bryson Johnson Clague Novikov Rathbone Poolman Komarov Prow Metsa Luukkonen Levi Reimer Sandstrom Houser I keep coming back to @Thorny’s post about how everything kinda makes sense if they add a good middle six forward. With the amount of cap space and prospect capital available, not to make a move - even if it’s just another Zucker, even if they lose the trade - would be a gross dereliction of duty. 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Depth chart (not lines) as things stand Peterka Thompson Tuch Zucker Cozens Quinn Benson Krebs Greenway Malenstyn Lafferty Aube-Kubel Rousek Kulich Rosen Murray Östlund Savoie Wahlberg Dunne Jobst Kisakov Kozak Neuchev Nadeau Slaggert Warren Power Dahlin Byram Jokiharju Samuelsson Clifton Gilbert Bryson Johnson Clague Novikov Rathbone Poolman Komarov Prow Metsa Luukkonen Levi Reimer Sandstrom Houser I keep coming back to @Thorny’s post about how everything kinda makes sense if they add a good middle six forward. With the amount of cap space and prospect capital available, not to make a move - even if it’s just another Zucker, even if they lose the trade - would be a gross dereliction of duty. And it IS possible that Adams is looking to make a deal for that guy. Did ANYONE here have Reimer to Buffalo before it was announced? Just because we aren't privy to the attempts to improve the roster doesn't mean they aren't being made. And, regardless of how many deals Adams was or wasn't in on that he couldn't get done, just 1 (at minimum for that 2/3C) deal would have people much more optimistic and 3 more (also bringing in a 2W and a 4D (though still expect Adams believes he has that already in house and his name ISN'T Jokiharju)) would have even PA downright giddy. (Maybe even GA would be happy with all that.) This kid would be pretty stoked. Quote
Thorner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: And it IS possible that Adams is looking to make a deal for that guy. Did ANYONE here have Reimer to Buffalo before it was announced? Just because we aren't privy to the attempts to improve the roster doesn't mean they aren't being made. And, regardless of how many deals Adams was or wasn't in on that he couldn't get done, just 1 (at minimum for that 2/3C) deal would have people much more optimistic and 3 more (also bringing in a 2W and a 4D (though still expect Adams believes he has that already in house and his name ISN'T Jokiharju)) would have even PA downright giddy. (Maybe even GA would be happy with all that.) This kid would be pretty stoked. Who thinks he’s not trying now? He’s trying. The issue of him not trying has I think been litigated. Some, I, for example believed he put it off far too long, and our backs being against the wall now “all of a sudden” is in a large way a result of that: but I think he’s trying to win NOW. Doesn’t everyone? He’s trying for a bigger add he just may not have the ability to pull it off 2 Quote
oddoublee Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 On 7/1/2024 at 6:15 PM, #freejame said: I, too, like Krebs. There’s more of us than you would think! I like him too. As my 13th forward. Quote
Taro T Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: Who thinks he’s not trying now? He’s trying. The issue of him not trying has I think been litigated. Some, I, for example believed he put it off far too long, and our backs being against the wall now “all of a sudden” is in a large way a result of that: but I think he’s trying to win NOW. Doesn’t everyone? He’s trying for a bigger add he just may not have the ability to pull it off Fine. Long f'n week of traveling. Just got home a couple of hours ago and should've been in bed an hour ago but am still wired. 1st sentence should've said, and it IS possible that Adams WILL actually make that deal for that guy. ... 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 6 minutes ago, Taro T said: And it IS possible that Adams is looking to make a deal for that guy. Did ANYONE here have Reimer to Buffalo before it was announced? Just because we aren't privy to the attempts to improve the roster doesn't mean they aren't being made. And, regardless of how many deals Adams was or wasn't in on that he couldn't get done, just 1 (at minimum for that 2/3C) deal would have people much more optimistic and 3 more (also bringing in a 2W and a 4D (though still expect Adams believes he has that already in house and his name ISN'T Jokiharju)) would have even PA downright giddy. (Maybe even GA would be happy with all that.) This kid would be pretty stoked. The window is definitely closing imo, at this point teams are pretty much ready to go i'd say for the most part. The time to do these deals area round the draft and mostly by tne end of free agency not several weeks after not that it can't happen but using a signing of James Reimer (a free agent) is a little different than making a huge trade for a player like Ehlers/Necas. I like your optimism and I'll roll with it for about a week and then I'll be back to hating on Adams. Quote
Taro T Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Just now, GoPuckYourself said: The window is definitely closing imo, at this point teams are pretty much ready to go i'd say for the most part. The time to do these deals area round the draft and mostly by tne end of free agency not several weeks after not that it can't happen but using a signing of James Reimer (a free agent) is a little different than making a huge trade for a player like Ehlers/Necas. I like your optimism and I'll roll with it for about a week and then I'll be back to hating on Adams. Well, the funny thing is, if the deal doesn't get done in the next week, it likely won't for another month & a half to 2 months, but a window opens up again when teams actually try to figure out which 23 they're going to keep and how they're going to be back under the cap. So, we can all be frustrated a week from now, but there is still that final window opening and pretty much nobody saw Boychuk and Leddy becoming Aisles back in '14 and they got each for a 2nd round pick. Not saying it will happen. Just that it can. 2 Quote
dudacek Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 8 minutes ago, Thorny said: Who thinks he’s not trying now? He’s trying. The issue of him not trying has I think been litigated. Some, I, for example believed he put it off far too long, and our backs being against the wall now “all of a sudden” is in a large way a result of that: but I think he’s trying to win NOW. Doesn’t everyone? He’s trying for a bigger add he just may not have the ability to pull it off This is insightful and fits why he’s not trading for Mangiapane or overpaying for Henrique, or picking up Radek Faksa for free. Quote
Thorner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Just now, Taro T said: Well, the funny thing is, if the deal doesn't get done in the next week, it likely won't for another month & a half to 2 months, but a window opens up again when teams actually try to figure out which 23 they're going to keep and how they're going to be back under the cap. So, we can all be frustrated a week from now, but there is still that final window opening and pretty much nobody saw Boychuk and Leddy becoming Aisles back in '14 and they got each for a 2nd round pick. Not saying it will happen. Just that it can. Agree. It’s not a very likely time for things to happen by that point but certainly not unheard of Quote
French Collection Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Teams will be working to sign their RFAs. Some of these signings will put them over the cap but they don’t have to make moves immediately. It could be a long two months, waiting for this to sort out. A mercenary like Tarasenko might have to sign with the Sabres. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Another roster note: The Sabres have 13 defencemen under contract. Just 2 — Clifton and Komarov — are right-handed Jokiharju would make it 3 of 14 Recent 2nd-rounders Maxim Strbak and Adam Kleber are both right-handed shots Quote
Thorner Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 4 hours ago, French Collection said: Teams will be working to sign their RFAs. Some of these signings will put them over the cap but they don’t have to make moves immediately. It could be a long two months, waiting for this to sort out. A mercenary like Tarasenko might have to sign with the Sabres. Quote
French Collection Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 I have no control over this so all I can do is hope. KA is reactive so nothing will shake loose until everyone else knows it too. 4 plus years should be long enough to know that rival GMs will gladly throw you an anchor rather than a lifeline. Make things happen. Maybe an offer sheet would make the other guys realize you have a seat at the table. F*** your future draft picks, get a player now. Lundell, too late, Pinto, too late…… If everyone gets upset at offer sheets then it gets changed at the next bargaining session. It is a useless tool anyway. Really, TP and his team have no respect, so why not go rogue. Quote
Night Train Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 Teams are allowed to be 10% over the cap for the short term now. It's to give them time to redo deals, trade or cut. Should be easy for KA to ID those teams needing relief. Then ID some targets. Quote
sabresparaavida Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 44 minutes ago, Night Train said: Teams are allowed to be 10% over the cap for the short term now. It's to give them time to redo deals, trade or cut. Should be easy for KA to ID those teams needing relief. Then ID some targets. You can’t redo deals in the NHL. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 3 Report Posted July 3 20 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: You can’t redo deals in the NHL. You can't modify an existing deal, but those players that received qualifying offers WILL be receiving new deals. (IF that's what @Night Train was referring to, he's technically wrong, but right on the intent.) 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 5 Author Report Posted July 5 So where are we? Forwards JJP TNT Tuch Benson Cozens Quinn Zucker McLeod Greenway Aube-Kubel Lafferty Malenstyn(rfa) (Krebs-rfa) Defense Power Dahlin Byram Clifton Samuelsson Jokiharju (Gilbert Bryson) Goalies UPL(rfa), Levi, Reimer Quote
Thorner Posted July 6 Report Posted July 6 8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: So where are we? Forwards JJP TNT Tuch Benson Cozens Quinn Zucker McLeod Greenway Aube-Kubel Lafferty Malenstyn(rfa) (Krebs-rfa) Defense Power Dahlin Byram Clifton Samuelsson Jokiharju (Gilbert Bryson) Goalies UPL(rfa), Levi, Reimer Flip the L4 wings. It wouldn’t matter but you have everyone else on their proper side so Quote
ska-T Palmtown Posted July 6 Report Posted July 6 Even if it was an "overpay" [and that is being litigated in the trade thread, not asking for that to start here] - I sorta feel like the McLeod trade falls in the "evidence the initial assertion of this thread was wrong" bin? If it is true (the initial assertion alleged by the thread title), imagine how hard GMKA is working to get these done ... might be impressive, lol. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 13 Author Report Posted July 13 https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/team-resets/buffalo-sabres-roster-changes-for-2024-25-season NHL.Com's review of the Sabres off-season so far. Quote Projected lineup JJ Peterka -- Tage Thompson -- Alex Tuch Jason Zucker -- Dylan Cozens -- Jack Quinn Zach Benson -- Ryan McLeod -- Sam Lafferty Beck Malenstyn -- Peyton Krebs -- Jordan Greenway Mattias Samuelsson -- Rasmus Dahlin Bowen Byram -- Owen Power Henri Jokiharju -- Connor Clifton Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen Devon Levi Quote What they still need They could potentially add a top-six winger but believe they can rebound offensively internally. The Sabres are banking on bounce-back seasons from Tage Thompson, Alex Tuch, and Dylan Cozens after each dropped off following career seasons in 2022-23 and for young forwards JJ Peterka, Jack Quinn and Zach Benson to take the next step. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 13 Report Posted July 13 5 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/team-resets/buffalo-sabres-roster-changes-for-2024-25-season NHL.Com's review of the Sabres off-season so far. That bottom 6 is wrong. Benson - McLeod - Greenway Malenstyn - Rafferty - Kubel Kubel shoots right and a blackhole for opponents when it comes to offense. 1 Quote
JohnC Posted July 13 Report Posted July 13 6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/team-resets/buffalo-sabres-roster-changes-for-2024-25-season NHL.Com's review of the Sabres off-season so far. Assuming 6 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: https://www.nhl.com/news/topic/team-resets/buffalo-sabres-roster-changes-for-2024-25-season NHL.Com's review of the Sabres off-season so far. Assuming a top 6 forward is not added, the issue of where Benson is placed vs Zucker is not troubling to me. They'll compete for line roles in camp and when the season begins. And I suspect that Lindy will periodically be interchanging them at game time and within the games. Eventually, it will sort itself out. What will be Krebs role? Will he be forth line player or will he become a spare part who becomes a utility player? He'll influence that decision in training camp and during the early season games. I like seeing this internal competition. It's better than players securing roles because of a lack of competition. What's apparent to me is that if the GM can add another second/third line forward, he will be creating a lot more flexibility and depth within the next two lines. My hope is that the cautious GM will make a deal to bring in that type of player. Will he? I'm not sure that he will? Quote
DarthEbriate Posted July 13 Report Posted July 13 For our summer amusement: First, a Rufferized lineup using the general '05-'06 regular season roster (all vets up top, Grier/Drury together, Vanek/Roy as kids fresh from ROC on the 3rd line) for inspiration. Fret not: this is for 5-on-5 only. The kids would get PP time to boost their points. [Benson=baby Pommer; Briere=TNT] Zucker - Thompson - Tuch Malenstyn - McLeod - Greenway Peterka - Cozens - Quinn Benson - Lafferty - Aube-Kubel (Krebs) Second, a Benson=Briere shuffle and sneak Kulich=Kotalik into the lineup. Peterka - Thompson - Benson Quinn - Cozens - Tuch Zucker - McLeod - Greenway Malenstyn - Lafferty - Kulich (Aube-Kubel, Krebs) 1 Quote
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