Night Train Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 So they got one 4th liner and draft picks this weekend. I get the feeling. Capt. Obvious says they'll probably have to overpay to attract talent to come here, especially if they have choices. Lots of work to do. Who do they target ? Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) Lets look at the bottom of the barrel Answer is Robert Bortuzzo Edited June 29 by Buffalonill 2 3 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 21 minutes ago, Night Train said: So they got one 4th liner and draft picks this weekend. I get the feeling. Capt. Obvious says they'll probably have to overpay to attract talent to come here, especially if they have choices. Lots of work to do. Who do they target ? Getting a top 6 forward to replace Skinner would be objective #1. if, by miracle, they do sign someone, they buy out Skinner and use that money to pay a 3rd line centre and another 4th line energy guy I think the D they have is the D they go with hopefully there is such an improvement in coaching and UPL and Levi can give them good goaltending over an entire season, they have a change to contend for a playoff spot. that's the dream. most likely , the sign a couple of more 4th types (much needed btw) and Jeff Skinner remains a Sabre and continues to frustrate coach and fans alike with his lackadaisical play and poor passing But hey. When it's a blow out and the opponent decides they don't want to play D that night , he might score a goal or two 1 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Some players I'd like the Sabres to sign (I know wishful thinking): Some players Id like for the 3rd line center position- Chandler Stephenson (UFA), Alexander Wennberg (UFA), Sean Monahan (UFA), Martin Necas (trade) Some top LW options now that Jeff Skinner- Nikolaj Ehlers (trade), Joel Farabee (trade), Pavel Buchnevich (trade), Jake Debrusk (trade) ? not sure if he's a top line player (probably not) 2 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ... said: What if we can provide Stamkos a compelling offer? Like what 12 million? 6 minutes ago, GoPuckYourself said: Some players I'd like the Sabres to sign (I know wishful thinking): Some players Id like for the 3rd line center position- Chandler Stephenson (UFA), Alexander Wennberg (UFA), Sean Monahan (UFA), Martin Necas (trade) Some top LW options now that Jeff Skinner- Nikolaj Ehlers (trade), Joel Farabee (trade), Pavel Buchnevich (trade), Jake Debrusk (trade) ? not sure if he's a top line player (probably not) We had a perfect opportunity to use the 2024 picks for that so I think that's out the door Edited June 29 by Buffalonill 1 Quote
RochesterExpat Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Are the Buffalo Sabres objectively better right now than they were a week ago? Did buying out Jeff Skinner and trading for Beck Malenstyn move the needle? If it did, was it even in a positive direction? GMKA has a lot of work to do this FA. And, frankly, if other GMs don’t want to trade with you, it’s time to go scorched earth. Offer sheet Anton Lundell or Quinton Byfield. If those bridges aren’t open, burning them doesn’t change anything. 5 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Like what 12 million? We had a perfect opportunity to use the 2024 picks for that so I think that's out the door Unlikely I know but there are still current prospects he could deal. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) 10 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: Are the Buffalo Sabres objectively better right now than they were a week ago? Did buying out Jeff Skinner and trading for Beck Malenstyn move the needle? If it did, was it even in a positive direction? GMKA has a lot of work to do this FA. And, frankly, if other GMs don’t want to trade with you, it’s time to go scorched earth. Offer sheet Anton Lundell or Quinton Byfield. If those bridges aren’t open, burning them doesn’t change anything. I think Jeff Skinner was a good subtraction, he was a real liability almost all last season. A one dimensional goal scorer is great on a Stanley Cup type of team not for a team trying to build 1 imo. He will give us the room to add a guy who is offensive but isn't a defensive liability. Edited June 29 by GoPuckYourself 1 Quote
RochesterExpat Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 1 minute ago, GoPuckYourself said: He will give us the room to add a guy who is offensive but isn't a defensive liability. I generally agree with what you said; however, if you have trouble getting people to sign here in free agency and you have difficultly making trades, the above becomes substantially more difficult. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) Necas is still out there. He plays wing and center, something Ruff would like in his toolkit. Monahan is a good player too. Edited June 29 by Pimlach Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 58 minutes ago, Night Train said: 2-3 more forwards. By FA or trade. Yep Night. I think we'll be surprised this Monday. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: I generally agree with what you said; however, if you have trouble getting people to sign here in free agency and you have difficultly making trades, the above becomes substantially more difficult. Then we better hope either Quinn or Peterka is the real deal. Edited June 29 by GoPuckYourself 1 Quote
JustOneParade Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 7 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Yep Night. I think we'll be surprised this Monday. I suppose I would rather overpay in dollars during free agency rather than with picks and prospects in trades as long as (1) holes are filled, and (2) the salary overpayments don’t cause cap issues when the dollars are needed in a few years. 1 Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: I suppose I would rather overpay in dollars during free agency rather than with picks and prospects in trades as long as (1) holes are filled, and (2) the salary overpayments don’t cause cap issues when the dollars are needed in a few years. I think Adams tried, I don't think he tried hard enough payment wise to make a deal or 2. That said, Adams also values the future and with that known, I'm guessing here, but maybe, just maybe, names like Peterka, Quinn, Samuelsson, Power and Kulich were brought up. He may not have been willing to entertain such, and, in my humbled opinion yet once again, rightfully so. Of course, that is just a guess, but I'm surmising not far off the mark. Who knows really, it's just my guess is all. 2 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 The more prudent move is a Monahan + Martinook (the names/faces are interchangeable, but a C and a W) for the bottom 6, but another way to improve the bottom 6 is to slot in a true top 6 forward and push everyone down. It won't happen, but take a legitimate run at Stamkos. Cozens moves to 3C or the wing. Stamkos knows his departure from TB leaves a void with them, and his addition to a BUF/DET lifts that team that much higher. 2 Quote
Turbo44 Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Stamkos will resign with TB tomorrow - they cleared space the last couple of days to do so Quote
Night Train Posted June 29 Author Report Posted June 29 So the local press keeps talking about Carolina RW Martin Necas 24 G 29 A last year. Quote
Justin C Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 7 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Stamkos will resign with TB tomorrow - they cleared space the last couple of days to do so Or maybe not Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 58 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: Yep Night. I think we'll be surprised this Monday. I don't know how you guys are so optimistic but hope you're right . 2 minutes ago, Justin C said: Or maybe not He's going to the wings Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Call it old age.... we will start hearing about signings tomorrow, right? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 47 minutes ago, Scottysabres said: I think Adams tried, I don't think he tried hard enough payment wise to make a deal or 2. That said, Adams also values the future and with that known, I'm guessing here, but maybe, just maybe, names like Peterka, Quinn, Samuelsson, Power and Kulich were brought up. He may not have been willing to entertain such, and, in my humbled opinion yet once again, rightfully so. Of course, that is just a guess, but I'm surmising not far off the mark. Who knows really, it's just my guess is all. Nothing personal, but I'm tired of hearing this every year. Sure he "tried", he better have "tried" but succeeding is what makes a good GM. Utah and L.A. are better teams than they were after the draft day deals. At the moment, we are not a better team than we were. We just have more prospects. 6 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 1 minute ago, seer775 said: We need 3 centers minimum. 2C - Monahan 3C - Stephenson 4C - Jost Then, imo, a goalie 1B - Samsonov Then the icing would be to deal Samuelsson and get a Dman. Top 4 D - Montour. He's never coming back to buffalo lol Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 (edited) 1 minute ago, seer775 said: True. Same with Eichel, Okposo, Reinhart,... basically anyone that's been on the team for longer than one year. It's a tradition once you leave Buffalo you win a cup more will follow Edited June 29 by Buffalonill 1 Quote
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