Sabres acquire Forward Beck Malenstvn for 43rd Overall

[Buffalonill]

5 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

So………how’s KA going to add real players? Like top 4 d/top 6 forward 

He isn't kids from Rochester will take the spots 

 

 

[WhenWillItEnd66]

1 minute ago, Buffalonill said:

He isn't kids from Rochester will take the spots 

 

 

Same Sabres idiocy,  another year.  

[Wyldnwoody44]

😂😂😂😂 We've been so bad and terrible at just about everything, that I have comfortably removed myself from the emotion of this off-season. So while this looks just purely awful on paper. I just can't get upset... you hire guys with no skill, this is what happens. Rinse, repeat. 

[SabreFinn]

10 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

 

4th line player with size. One out of four accomplished.

[Thorny]

Advanced stats unfortunately have him as a downgrade on Girgs, but we shall see 

[Derrico]

The only positive spin I see is we traded a prospect that won’t be NHL ready for 3+ years (if at all) for a guy who should be able to step in and hopefully help PK and 4th line next season.  
 

Maybe they could have got someone equivalent on July 1.  The playoff drought and lack of interest in joining this franchise seems more obvious this offseason than in recent memory.  Sabres have to overpay and it sucks.  It needs to change.  They need to start winning.  Sickening we’re at this point. 

[That Aud Smell]

3 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Look if this was a 3rd or a 4th, whatever. They overpay on these 4th line guys constantly. It's insane. All the best to him though. At least he's tough and can play hockey. Also Washington sucked last year so maybe he'll be better in Buffalo. 

Until we see a larger strategy this a bandaid on a bullet hole. 

The overpayment talk is starting to strike me as spreadsheet fandom. I therefore suggest you stay off the analytic sites for a couple days. (Lol.)

As for this piece: I don’t think this move is intended to dress the wound you have in mind.

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4 minutes ago, Mango said:

Contextually this makes zero sense.

Players don’t go “fine I’ll go to Buffalo, but only if you give my former team a 2nd. That’s the only way!”

Barring a NMC, the players have nothing to do with the trade. The other GMs across the league know the position we're in and will take advantage of it. There will be no fair trades for us.

[Pimlach]

35 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

This is such a good point.

It feels a bit like there’s a camp of people saying “another 1st round forward prospect? where can he even fit?” and also a camp of “Adams overpaid.” Maybe those are different people?

I don’t care a bit if this is an overpayment (within reason). Mangiapane was clearly not coming here. All I care about: Is this guy a useful NHLer? I sure hope so.

Did he actually say no to Buffalo or do you just think that?   Did he have a NTC/NMC?  

As for the overpayment, I agree with you.  If we can just break through this abyss, get to the playoffs and then  be competitive, then good players would be willing to come here.  Vets just want a chance to win, and they want to play in front of a big enthusiastic crowds.   

McDermott and Beane turned the Bills culture around in short order.  The city is not glamourous but it has many positives, but being dedicated to winning has to be a priority.  

Edited Saturday at 04:35 PM by Pimlach

[DarthEbriate]

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Advanced stats unfortunately have him as a downgrade on Girgs, but we shall see 

Simple... they'll just re-sign Girgs and move him to center (where he's not nearly as good as at wing). Problem solved!

[nfreeman]

Just now, ... said:

Barring a NMC, the players have nothing to do with the trade. The other GMs across the league know the position we're in and will take advantage of it. There will be no fair trades for us.

I kinda think that even where there is no NMC/NTC, most of the time GMs will try to send players into good situations -- which the Sabres assuredly are not -- unless there is a big spread in the trade return.  I doubt the Caps could've gotten a good #2 pick for Beck anywhere else.

[Thorny]

 

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

The overpayment talk is starting to strike me as spreadsheet fandom. I therefore suggest you stay off the analytic sites for a couple days. (Lol.)

As for this piece: I don’t think this move is intended to dress the wound you have in mind.

Oh it is? What did Tanner Jeannot get traded for 20 min later?

 

[gomper]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

Oh it is? What did Tanner Jeannot get traded for 20 min later?

 

Unreal 

[Buffalonill]

1 minute ago, gomper said:

Unreal 

So we basically traded for the new tanner jeannot after 1 good year...

Makes sense 

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, gomper said:

Unreal 

Even Jeannot had a modified NTC with 16 teams. It's very unlikely he was going to allow himself to join this decade-long trainwreck.

[GASabresIUFAN]

I love Adams.  He’s such a good GM.  A 2nd for a lousy player.  When will the fun never end?

[DarthEbriate]

Just now, Buffalonill said:

So we basically traded for the new tanner jeannot after 1 good year...

Makes sense 

But spent way, way, way less to acquire than TB sent to Nashville for him originally.

[thewookie1]

Could of eaten Hayes contract and used this 2nd and the 2nd from the bribe to get Marino for free

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1 minute ago, nfreeman said:

I kinda think that even where there is no NMC/NTC, most of the time GMs will try to send players into good situations -- which the Sabres assuredly are not -- unless there is a big spread in the trade return.  I doubt the Caps could've gotten a good #2 pick for Beck anywhere else.

Right. This is implied in what I said.

To add: we, as a fanbase, are going to have to get used to seeing the value in whatever moves we make as relative to our needs and not in how a player may fit in to the abstract concept of an imaginary team built with abstract, imaginary statistical players.

[Buffalonill]

Just now, DarthEbriate said:

But spent way, way, way less to acquire than TB sent to Nashville for him originally.

Yes they did .. but players like him are a dime a dozen though 

Just now, thewookie1 said:

Could of eaten Hayes contract and used this 2nd and the 2nd from the bribe to get Marino for free

Probably had a NMC

[LGR4GM]

 

 

[PASabreFan]

41 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Oh my! A menace in the AHL! Wow so cool.  ***** off.

 

Tell me the difference between Lance and Jordan at sabres.com.

You're a journalist of sorts Lance. Stop carrying the franchise's water. Tell the whole story.

[Flashsabre]

I really believe every player with a NTC has Buffalo on their list.

I wouldn’t want Hayes for free.

 

[That Aud Smell]

11 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Did he actually say no to Buffalo or do you just think that?   Did he have a NTC/NMC?  

It is an inescapable inference.

9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Oh it is? What did Tanner Jeannot get traded for 20 min later?

No idea what that signifies. And I told you to close out those nerd tabs for a bit.

6 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Even Jeannot had a modified NTC with 16 teams. It's very unlikely he was going to allow himself to join this decade-long trainwreck.