WhenWillItEnd66 Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Ok. Maybe I’m in the wrong space if I’m annoying people by remembering past threads I could have never written for Star Wars, I retain too much continuity Or just have no life..... 😁 I am kidding!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM 1 minute ago, Thorny said: I didn’t “dig up” anything. I asked in good faith because we’ve talked about this many times. I’m sorry you don’t remember our conversations like I do? I’m legitimate interested in understanding peoples opinions honestly I candidly find it sort of telling that “remembering other people’s viewpoints that they’ve painstakingly taken the time time derail” is seen as odd behaviour It depends on where you are in the draft. Top 5, no it almost never makes any sense to pick up an extra 2nd and move down. Drafting 1st overall and getting say pick 37 to move back to pick 4 or something doesn't make sense in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM I think the payout to fall 3 spots in this draft was incredible! A mid 2nd is more than worth 3 spot fall. Now, if we end up picking all the picks in the draft i will be steamed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: It depends on where you are in the draft. Top 5, no it almost never makes any sense to pick up an extra 2nd and move down. Drafting 1st overall and getting say pick 37 to move back to pick 4 or something doesn't make sense in my mind. Thanks for the follow up. Ya I’ve always questioned my pro-stance on reading down because you’ve disagreed with me in the past on it and i know you know more about the draft than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM 9 minutes ago, SDS said: Why would you remember this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM 2 minutes ago, WhenWillItEnd66 said: Or just have no life..... 😁 I am kidding!!!!! That too, and I’m tired of hijacking this thread so I’ll bow out (sorry, just trying to quote those quoting me) Just now, ... said: @SDS thanks dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:28 PM 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Thanks for the follow up. Ya I’ve always questioned my pro-stance on reading down because you’ve disagreed with me in the past on it and i know you know more about the draft than me TBH, I don't think I know more about the draft than anyone in particular. I just have more opinions about the draft, if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: That too, and I’m tired of hijacking this thread so I’ll bow out (sorry, just trying to quote those quoting me) @SDS thanks dude Not to mention i fall under the i cannot remember what i had for dinner yesterday category!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted Thursday at 07:40 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:40 PM (edited) 57 minutes ago, SDS said: I appreciate you thinking through this and not just firing out some tiresome snark. Good comments from @dudacek, but Adams deserves every bit of snark thrown his way. Outside of trading for Greenway he has not made a single trade or UFA signing that has improved the team. Why should any fan trust his judgement at this point? Truthfully he has lost the benefit of the doubt. I would have applauded this move 3 years ago. In a vacuum I have zero issue with this trade, but given the current circumstances of this team, we need more roster upgrades, not more draft capital. Unless and until he makes a substantive move to fix his failing NHL roster, he deserves the scorn of the fanbase. Edited Thursday at 07:42 PM by GASabresIUFAN 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted Thursday at 07:55 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:55 PM 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: This tweet doesn't make sense to me. Jiricek and Emery will almost guaranteed be there at 14. Yep. Am hoping this move kills 2 birds - helps get an NHLer w/ the 2nd and gets them Jiricek. Is 14 too high to take him (expecting he'll be available)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted Thursday at 07:56 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:56 PM Just now, Taro T said: Yep. Am hoping this move kills 2 birds - helps get an NHLer w/ the 2nd and gets them Jiricek. Is 14 too high to take him (expecting he'll be available)? Who knows!?!? Dude hasn't played since December. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted Thursday at 07:58 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:58 PM 2 minutes ago, Taro T said: Yep. Am hoping this move kills 2 birds - helps get an NHLer w/ the 2nd and gets them Jiricek. Is 14 too high to take him (expecting he'll be available)? Most of what I’ve seen has him going in the middle of the round, so maybe a little high, but not out of line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:01 PM 39 minutes ago, dudacek said: They wouldn’t have made this deal if they were close to doing what we wanted: leveraging #11 into a good player. To my mind it dims the hope for the type of trade we all want. Interesting. Still see it as being possibly a precursor to another move where a prospect & a 2nd is a big part of the package. Didn't Forton say they saw pretty much a large tier of ~6 - 14 (15?)? If they see thise guys all having essentially the same value & likelihood to pan out AND they know they'll very likely trading a prospect then doesn't it make sense to still have essentially the same chance of replacing the prospect and get an extra 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:07 PM okay I went and looked up Jiricek's draft profile on 3 places. Skating stride needs work, not enough knee bend, and pace of play was a criticism. Now having a knee injury, could come back with a far improved stride and maybe pace will pick up. That said, Michael Brandsegg-Nygård! lol, I am locked into this schtick now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay21 Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:08 PM I feel another trade is coming. The Sabres are going to package a couple draft picks and a player for an established forward. Just my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFinn Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM Sharks also got Grundström from Kings. I wanted Grundström to Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:11 PM 2 minutes ago, PotentPowerPlay21 said: I feel another trade is coming. The Sabres are going to package a couple draft picks and a player for an established forward. Just my guess. There has to be. We don't have enough room on the roster for all these draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted Thursday at 08:13 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:13 PM 8 minutes ago, Taro T said: Interesting. Still see it as being possibly a precursor to another move where a prospect & a 2nd is a big part of the package. Didn't Forton say they saw pretty much a large tier of ~6 - 14 (15?)? If they see thise guys all having essentially the same value & likelihood to pan out AND they know they'll very likely trading a prospect then doesn't it make sense to still have essentially the same chance of replacing the prospect and get an extra 2nd? Oh, for sure, still tons of ammo there. I’m just saying I think this makes it unlikely #11 was a key cog in any deal. 20 years ago we were giving up 2 2nds for Jochen Hecht. I’d be very happy with a deal like that. Add a Savoie to 2 2nds and that’s more than enough for a good top 6 player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:14 PM So no player for the pick, just more picks. Whatever. Now it makes flipping current prospects for a player even more desirable but I have my doubts it'll happen. Doesn't change my first round pick. Still Liam Greentree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPuckYourself Posted Thursday at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:16 PM If this isn’t part of a larger trade coming then Adams is truly clueless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTJoe Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:21 PM (edited) 14 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: okay I went and looked up Jiricek's draft profile on 3 places. Skating stride needs work, not enough knee bend, and pace of play was a criticism. Now having a knee injury, could come back with a far improved stride and maybe pace will pick up. That said, Michael Brandsegg-Nygård! lol, I am locked into this schtick now. I'm on board with him, which he was a little bigger. Guess, if he was bigger he's go earlier....... Edited Thursday at 08:21 PM by CTJoe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted Thursday at 08:35 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:35 PM Since this is hearsay, I don’t think it deserves it on topic. I have a friend back home that plays men’s hockey and everyone always knows somebody. The way the story was told to me was that this guy was telling stories in the locker room inside Adams offered Lindy an assistant position in January and he said no way. Then Granato was fired and Lindy eventually caved. However, it was on the condition that Adams go after three or four players that he thought the team needed. I wasn’t told who they were or if they were specific players or types of players. The impression was specific players. With that said, having more assets to bring in Lindys players fits in with this trade today. FYI, I absolutely don’t care if you believe the above. I don’t even know if I believe the above. It is just a story that was relayed to me. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:37 PM 28 minutes ago, PotentPowerPlay21 said: I feel another trade is coming. The Sabres are going to package a couple draft picks and a player for an established forward. Just my guess. Has to be a move like that and since I assume many teams see a bunch of prospects all grouped together in that 6-15 range, it likely wouldn't be a huge deal moving back a few spots to pick up a 2nd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:39 PM 3 minutes ago, SDS said: Since this is hearsay, I don’t think it deserves it on topic. I have a friend back home that plays men’s hockey and everyone always knows somebody. The way the story was told to me was that this guy was telling stories in the locker room inside Adams offered Lindy an assistant position in January and he said no way. Then Granato was fired and Lindy eventually caved. However, it was on the condition that Adams go after three or four players that he thought the team needed. I wasn’t told who they were or if they were specific players or types of players. The impression was specific players. With that said, having more assets to bring in Lindys players fits in with this trade today. FYI, I absolutely don’t care if you believe the above. I don’t even know if I believe the above. It is just a story that was relayed to me. SDS, I was only kidding about Lindy building trade capital. Your scaring me, 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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