Sabres Trade the 11th pick to San Jose for 14th and 42nd Overall

[GASabresIUFAN]

Adams is channeling Beane and is going to trade out of the 1st to pick up 7 2nd rd picks.

[French Collection]

The worst case is no one wants to trade with him, UFAs won’t sign so he is running it back and adding more prospects.

My guess is he moves a second and a prospect.

[shrader]

And on another note, San Jose has been very busy.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Can we trade Adams for Grier?

[Scottysabres]

Fantastic move by the Sabres. Lindy picking up draft capital to spend on immediate roster needs.

[stinky finger]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Adams is channeling Beane and is going to trade out of the 1st to pick up 7 2nd rd picks.

Better hope not. 2nd rounders haven't been that kind to BB.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Just now, stinky finger said:

Better hope not. 2nd rounders haven't been that kind to BB.

Besides Cook, Torrence and Epenesa?

[stinky finger]

1 minute ago, Scottysabres said:

Fantastic move by the Sabres. Lindy picking up draft capital to spend on immediate roster needs.

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

Fantastic move by the Sabres. Lindy picking up draft capital to spend on immediate roster needs.

When he is the GM next season?

[stinky finger]

Just now, GASabresIUFAN said:

Besides Cook, Torrence and Epenesa?

I'll give you Torrence. I'm not in the mood to list the "not so good" nor is it the place.

Let's leave it at hockey.

 

[Thorny]

We’ve made 30 picks the last 3 drafts. We can’t just go up and make all the picks this year, we really can’t 

[jad1]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

We’ve made 30 picks the last 3 drafts. We can’t just go up and make all the picks this year, we really can’t 

How else will we retain the Best Pipeline award for the nth season in a row?

Edited Thursday at 06:35 PM by jad1

[Mr Peabody]

This is a sure sign Celebrini will drop to 11.

[dudacek]

17 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

I think they want Eiserman at 11 to play with his friend Celebrini 

Good call, or it gives them a shot at one of the 6 D, which their pipeline clearly needs.

For the Sabres, makes sense if:

a) the guy they liked at 11 was going to be a “reach” (like Nygard)

b) if they needed a 2nd for another deal

c) if the sweet spot for a player they want (like Necas) is lower than 11

d) if they have a tier where their 11-14 guys are very close.

From what I’ve seen, at worst, one of Helenius, Yakemchuk, Catton, and Eiserman will be there  at 14.

Edited Thursday at 06:38 PM by dudacek

[Thorny]

I guess Draft Pick 11 didn’t want to be here 

[GASabresIUFAN]

3 minutes ago, jad1 said:

How else will we retain the Best Pipeline award for the nth season in a row?

The Golden Pipeline Award.  1st cousin to the Golden Shovel Award.

[shrader]

29 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

This is definitely a precursor trade; we have plans to make another deal but are looking to stretch are assets as much as possible.

Let's say Winnipeg wants a mid 1st for Ehlers; no reason we'd need to give them 11. 14 is more mid 1st. I could even see us deal further down and collect more 2nds in order to use those extras to make a separate trade.

And what does it mean for San Jose then?  It doesn't really look like any type of precursor there.  So they have someone targeted and they've now moved up very early and could potentially still miss out on that guy?

[SDS]

6 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Good call, or it gives them a shot at one of the 6 D, which their pipeline clearly needs.

For the Sabres, makes sense if:

a) the guy they liked at 11 was going to be a “reach” (like Nygard)

b) if they needed a 2nd for another deal

c) if the sweet spot for a player they want (like Necas) is lower than 11

d) if they have a tier where their 11-14 guys are very close.

From what I’ve seen, at worst, one of Helenius, Yakemchuk, Catton, and Eiserman will be there  at 14.

I appreciate you thinking through this and not just firing out some tiresome snark.

[Mango]

23 minutes ago, French Collection said:

So 14 is where you hope one of the “top 10” drop. You could get an Helenius, Eiserman, Sennecke, Yakemchuk or Brandsegg-Nygard. Or you could reach a bit for Jiricek, Stolberg, Beaudoin.

You aren’t wrong, but without any additional context 11 is a better place to wait hope for somebody dropping out of the top 10 than 14 is. 

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[xzy89c1]

31 minutes ago, jad1 said:

It is. Kind of surprised San Jose made this deal.

very odd. They need to pick as many players as they can and hope some hit...

[LGR4GM]

Just now, Mango said:

You aren’t wrong, but without any additional context 11 is a better place to wait hope for somebody dropping out of the top 10 than 14 is. 

But you also get another swing at pick 42. If they don't trade anything (I just do not believe that at all now) then you moved from 11 to 14 but also get an extra swing in round two at pick 42. Who might drop to 42 and 43? Lots of options in that range if I am being truthful. 

[Ducky]

38 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

This is definitely a precursor trade; we have plans to make another deal but are looking to stretch are assets as much as possible.

Let's say Winnipeg wants a mid 1st for Ehlers; no reason we'd need to give them 11. 14 is more mid 1st. I could even see us deal further down and collect more 2nds in order to use those extras to make a separate trade.

If Ehlers is traded, it will be for more than a 14th overall.

If he is traded, it will probably be to a team where he wants to play and a team that will extend him.

[LGR4GM]

This tweet doesn't make sense to me. Jiricek and Emery will almost guaranteed be there at 14. 

Edited Thursday at 06:53 PM by LGR4GM

[TRIP65]

33 minutes ago, SabreFinn said:

Never thought it that way, but it makes sence, the 2nd as a sweetener. And a trade is better than a buyout. Let's hope you are right.

We don't need Prospects or more Draft picks. Getting more picks does nothing. We don't need any. No path to the Sabres for 10 years, we are young. This Group of Amerks, only maybe 4-5 will make Sabres next 3-4 years. Most will be Bottom 6 or Bottom Defense pairing

This Trade makes no sense. You move up maybe but not back. If a Vet is out there and a Team wants a Top 10 pick then you move up. Don't move back to make a Trade for a Veteran. If you are then I question the Veteran your getting is going to help.