LGR4GM Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 15 minutes ago, Brawndo said: This is outstanding GM’ing by Doug Armstrong. The Oilers can put Evander Kane on LTIR, but they will only have the room to match one of them. The compensation is a 2nd for Broberg and a 3rd for Holloway.
thewookie1 Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, Weave said: And now this too. Interesting day in hockey. Even more so with the fact its very related to Buffalo.
shrader Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 I’d dismiss the suit immediately due to his first name. I would be an incredible judge, right? 4
Brawndo Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Weave said: And now this too. Interesting day in hockey. The NCAA has been heading towards this, Jeff Marek mentioned the last holdouts have been the head coaches.. This most likely expedients the process. The USHL most likely will be adversely impacted as the higher end college bound talent can chose the CHL. 1
That Aud Smell Posted August 13 Author Report Posted August 13 2 hours ago, shrader said: I’d dismiss the suit immediately due to his first name. I would be an incredible judge, right? I was legit like "You'd dismiss the complaint because the plaintiff's name is Ryan? ... Huh ... [looks again] OH DEAR GOD BURN THAT KID'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE." 2
triumph_communes Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 (edited) 3 hours ago, Weave said: And now this too. Interesting day in hockey. Would going from the CHL to NCAA to AHL be the new preferred pipeline for players? How would the NHL teams facilitate this? Would throw a link into the 4 years and UFA carve out right now if a college near Buffalo would be a temporary destination, which would get it? Niagara? Edited August 13 by triumph_communes
French Collection Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 I’m glad someone had the guts to do this. If the old boys club doesn’t like it then remove it from the game. This unwritten rule held back player salaries and movement. This adds excitement to the summer and a layer to contract negotiations. Oilers could lose two first round guys coming into their own for a 2nd and a 3rd. I thought Holloway was good in the playoff run and will only get better. How come no one offer sheets Krebs? LOL
shrader Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: Would going from the CHL to NCAA to AHL be the new preferred pipeline for players? How would the NHL teams facilitate this? Would throw a link into the 4 years and UFA carve out right now if a college near Buffalo would be a temporary destination, which would get it? Niagara? It wouldn't change the draft rules with regards to free agency. That's all set in stone the second you're drafted.
Taro T Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, triumph_communes said: Would going from the CHL to NCAA to AHL be the new preferred pipeline for players? How would the NHL teams facilitate this? Would throw a link into the 4 years and UFA carve out right now if a college near Buffalo would be a temporary destination, which would get it? Niagara? Presuming the suit is successful, and in light of the ability of college players to get paid to a certain extent through the NIL framework; would expect at least 1 and possibly 2 things to change in the NHL - Junior/College agreements. 1. As players could go interchangably from CHL - NCAA, would expect that in some way the NHL would sign a hybrid agreement with the NCAA so that players can sign with an NHL team (perhaps receiving deferred money as a signing bonus) when they're drafted similarly to what Junior players can currently do. IF that happens, would expect 2. that NHL teams would only have 2 years to sign an NCAA player before he goes back into the draft. Expect that it might force the CHL to drop its demand that if an underager doesn't make an NHL squad that they automatically get the right of 1st refusal because the player would now presumably be able to skip to the NCAA (or even Canadian College but that seems like it would be a significant step down in quality of play) with no repercussions. Would also expect that this will significantly hurt the USHL as college bound kids could presumably play in the better CHL if they're good enough to do so. Wonder how (if at all appreciably) this would effect the lower European national leagues that on occassion lucked into players like Matthews going that route. If the suit is successful, this could be almost as major as Kenny Linesman's legal wrangling that lowered the draft age to 18. Am sure it will affect things in ways we aren't even contemplating at this particular moment. 1
Huckleberry Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, French Collection said: I’m glad someone had the guts to do this. If the old boys club doesn’t like it then remove it from the game. This unwritten rule held back player salaries and movement. This adds excitement to the summer and a layer to contract negotiations. Oilers could lose two first round guys coming into their own for a 2nd and a 3rd. I thought Holloway was good in the playoff run and will only get better. How come no one offer sheets Krebs? LOL Yeah I love it, and 2 players at once. Oilers really are up against the cap and they probably really lowballed them to make them both sign with the blues making it more juicy 🙂
Thorner Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 (edited) 6 hours ago, Brawndo said: This is outstanding GM’ing by Doug Armstrong. The Oilers can put Evander Kane on LTIR, but they will only have the room to match one of them. The compensation is a 2nd for Broberg and a 3rd for Holloway. So the Blues gave away the third, they can’t sign Holloway then? nm they dealt Ottawa’s 3rd, I see now Edited August 13 by Thorny
Flashsabre Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lightning-working-on-sale-for-value-close-to-2-billion/
shrader Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 52 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/lightning-working-on-sale-for-value-close-to-2-billion/ From $170 million to almost $2 billion in 14 years. That’s insane. 1
Weave Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 so, Edmonton is in a pinch. What non-core players do they have (that we want) that we might be able to get ultra cheap now?
RochesterExpat Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Weave said: so, Edmonton is in a pinch. What non-core players do they have (that we want) that we might be able to get ultra cheap now? Jeff Skinner could be a reclamation project for the top 6. 🙃 2
thewookie1 Posted August 13 Report Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Weave said: so, Edmonton is in a pinch. What non-core players do they have (that we want) that we might be able to get ultra cheap now? Henrique and Arvidsson were just signed As was Skinner Corey Perry, Ceci and Kulak are all that’s left. Kane can go on LTIR for a bit but still wouldn’t save both players. My prediction would be Ceci and a pick to Anaheim for a cheaper pick
PerreaultForever Posted August 14 Report Posted August 14 Squeeze on Edmonton is very satisfying, for obvious reasons. With Draisaitl pending soon their window will slam shut fast. If I was KA I'd be on the phone to see if anybody's available.
JoeSchmoe Posted August 14 Report Posted August 14 (edited) There's lots of individual thread worthy conversation going on in this thread. IMO it would be nice to see the STL/EDM RFA, and CHL/NCAA discussions broken out to separate discussions. Edited August 14 by JoeSchmoe 1
GASabresIUFAN Posted August 14 Report Posted August 14 15 hours ago, Brawndo said: This is outstanding GM’ing by Doug Armstrong. The Oilers can put Evander Kane on LTIR, but they will only have the room to match one of them. The compensation is a 2nd for Broberg and a 3rd for Holloway. Oh look a GM who is actively trying to make his team better. 3
#freejame Posted August 14 Report Posted August 14 21 hours ago, Weave said: And now this too. Interesting day in hockey. This is awesome. It could revolutionize college hockey, as well as the professional level. I don’t like what’s going on with football, but more exposure for hockey the better. This would be huge for the game. 16 hours ago, shrader said: It wouldn't change the draft rules with regards to free agency. That's all set in stone the second you're drafted. I think draft rules would almost certainly be changed at the soonest CBA allow point possible.
#freejame Posted August 14 Report Posted August 14 16 hours ago, Taro T said: Would also expect that this will significantly hurt the USHL as college bound kids could presumably play in the better CHL if they're good enough to do so. Wonder how (if at all appreciably) this would effect the lower European national leagues that on occassion lucked into players like Matthews going that route. I’m not sure this is the case. USA Hockey still has incentives to keep the league strong as it’s the primary competition for the development team. I think there would be some shuffling of deck chairs, but without CHL expansion, which I don’t think is likely, there’s still a finite amount of roster spots up there. Also as hockey continues to grow in the Sunbelt, I think you’ll see more and more Americans preferring to play in the US than in Canada.
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