Thorner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: Bruins should get slapped by Gary. But maybe they were hoping to get the trade overshadowed? I think it’s a questionable return because they had to take Korpisalo and his contract back. The drop off from Ullmark to him is considerable IMO and that’s not a huge cap saving in return. But I guess that’s only way they were going to get a 1st? I’ll say pick 25 is about as much as legit starter ever seems to get these days though, so I guess the Bruins did alright on that level? Ive been saying for a while those who think goalies are going to get top 10 picks just don’t pay attention to the market. It sort of sucks that Ottawa is the team (needing help) and getting it, while the bruins are taking the hit but seem to overcome everything thrown their way. ie this hurts us vs Ottawa, and im not sure how comfortable I am even contemplating finishing ahead of Boston regardless of what they do probably ptsd but it is what it is. I’ve been natured. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Boston only gained 2 mil in cap space and downgraded their 2nd goalie but did get a late 1st for it. 1 Quote
shrader Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 So Ullmark for Kastelic, korpisalo, and a month or two of Tyler Burtuzzi? I guess there’s some value in bringing that pick back. And Ullmark is essentially back in Buffalo now. He should have taken that deal to LA last year. Quote
shrader Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 On a side note: I wish teams had the decency to not announce trades today… unless they’re trying to hide it behind the real story of the day. Quote
Broken Ankles Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: The drop off from Ullmark to him is considerable IMO and that’s not a huge cap saving in return. But I guess that’s only way they were going to get a 1st? I’ll say pick 25 is about as much as legit starter ever seems to get these days though, so I guess the Bruins did alright on that level? Ive been saying for a while those who think goalies are going to get top 10 picks just don’t pay attention to the market. Doesn't this also exacerbate the TM trade for Robin Lehner, considering the pick, the depth of the draft, and the fact TM accepted a cap dump on top of the pick? The Sens paid a lower price, received a better goalie, in a weaker draft, and sent somewhat of a cap dump to Boston instead of accepting one back from them. Guess that's why Tim is still unemployed. 2 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 1 minute ago, Broken Ankles said: Doesn't this also exacerbate the TM trade for Robin Lehner, considering the pick, the depth of the draft, and the fact TM accepted a cap dump on top of the pick? The Sens paid a lower price, received a better goalie, in a weaker draft, and sent somewhat of a cap dump to Boston instead of accepting one back from them. Guess that's why Tim is still unemployed. …and that was one of his better trades. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Let’s all laugh at Ottawa for ditching the korpisalo contract for a reasonable price and also adding Ullmark in the process mOrE pIcKs Quote
Thorner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: Doesn't this also exacerbate the TM trade for Robin Lehner, considering the pick, the depth of the draft, and the fact TM accepted a cap dump on top of the pick? The Sens paid a lower price, received a better goalie, in a weaker draft, and sent somewhat of a cap dump to Boston instead of accepting one back from them. Guess that's why Tim is still unemployed. Lehner trade was fine. At the time we all said we basically dealt a second for him B/c we only had to include a 2nd for ROR. Which remains a great trade they were sort of part and parcel like Mittelstadt and whatever trade we keep saying is coming for the second half of it Edited June 25 by Thorny Quote
Stoner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 We need this thread so Sabres fans have something to talk about? 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Why Ullmark would go to such a horrible organization is beyond me it's not going to go well he picked the wrong team 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 25 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: Doesn't this also exacerbate the TM trade for Robin Lehner, considering the pick, the depth of the draft, and the fact TM accepted a cap dump on top of the pick? The Sens paid a lower price, received a better goalie, in a weaker draft, and sent somewhat of a cap dump to Boston instead of accepting one back from them. Guess that's why Tim is still unemployed. Say what you will, the cap dump in Legwand gave the Sabres their best 4th line center since Gaustad and their last playoff appearance. (And yes, he immediately retired because he was cooked.) Quote
shrader Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Say what you will, the cap dump in Legwand gave the Sabres their best 4th line center since Gaustad and their last playoff appearance. (And yes, he immediately retired because he was cooked.) And he scored a goal from the bench. 1 Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Just now, shrader said: And he scored a goal from the bench. Most dangerous PKer ever. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Just checked it... the goalie in question, coincidentally... 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Boston has Bussi to backup Swayman. Are they buying out Korpisalo? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 25 minutes ago, Thorny said: Lehner trade was fine. At the time we all said we basically dealt a second for him B/c we only had to include a 2nd for ROR. Which remains a great trade What are you talking about? We traded a 1st for Lehner and took back a contract. Lehrer was also injured when acquired. It was an awful trade then and time has not made it look better. It was a huge overpayment. We basically got nothing for taking back Legwand. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What are you talking about? We traded a 1st for Lehner and took back a contract. Lehrer was also injured when acquired. It was an awful trade then and time has not made it look better. It was a huge overpayment. We basically got nothing for taking back Legwand. No I mean Lehner wasn’t half bad for us and the ROR trade was great. Those 2 deals worked in combination with eachother because yes I’d have preferred to give up a 2nd for Lehner but also would have willingly dealt a 1st for ROR instead of a second (which, IIRC, is what we paid in that trade) Edit - the “we all said” thing was bad wording on my part, I meant/should have said that it was a point raised by many at the time. But you are right the reaction at the time was bad, even worse looking back just now Edited June 25 by Thorny 1 Quote
#freejame Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Boston has Bussi to backup Swayman. Are they buying out Korpisalo? They’ll pay someone to take his contract. Quote
SabreFinn Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 7 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Boston has Bussi to backup Swayman. Are they buying out Korpisalo? I think they try with a Swayman Korpisalo duo. Korpi has always been better in the backup role. 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Ottawa bent us over with the Lehner deal based on Lehner's issues and us taking back a cap dump. Ironically though, the cap dump ended up being very useful as a solid 4th line center and vet presence 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 On 6/26/2015 at 9:16 AM, dudacek said: I guess this means we got Legwand to take Girgensons roster spot because we are flipping Zemgus, Zadorov and 31 for O'Reilly. Speaking of, this was a heck of a call, minus Girgensons obviously On 6/26/2015 at 10:44 AM, dudacek said: Unlike most of you, I don't take goaltending for granted. Lehner is better than last year showed and he will show it. I'm glad we have acquired a goalie I can believe in. On 7/1/2015 at 4:35 AM, Thorny said: This is where I am at, too. @GASabresIUFANI take your points, was definitely just mostly remembering my reaction at the time and probably dudaceks lol. 16 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What are you talking about? We traded a 1st for Lehner and took back a contract. Lehrer was also injured when acquired. It was an awful trade then and time has not made it look better. It was a huge overpayment. We basically got nothing for taking back Legwand. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 4 goalies have already changed teams. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 What if Toronto traded Marner and then traded for Skinner with Buffalo retaining 2 mill? 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: What if Toronto traded Marner and then traded for Skinner with Buffalo retaining 2 mill? If we can move Skinner without buying him out, I’d be ok with that. However, KA better have a plan then to find a scoring winger to go with the missing 2/3C. 1 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: What if Toronto traded Marner and then traded for Skinner with Buffalo retaining 2 mill? Would recommend every Sabre fan run out and buy a lottery ticket that day to see just how much that day truly is ours. When the cards are falling your way, stay at the table. 1 1 Quote
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