dudacek Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Not sure who caught Lindy’s recent lengthy Buffalo TV interview, but he pretty much said he wants to add somebody who can chuck ‘em. Not in so many words, but in response to a question about it, he acknowledged he’s a coach who likes to have “tools” and said a young team can use somebody who makes them feel brave. Said he’s had many, many conversations with Kevyn about what the team needs. 3 3 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 I've been saying we need this for the same reasons for years. I guess Lindy is also a dinosaur 🙂 1 6 Quote
Flashsabre Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Liam O’Brien is a ufa. They can always take Jeannot off of TB’s hands for them. There are others out there that won’t cost too much. I fully expect one of the 4th liners or 13th forward to be a guy who can fight. No problem with that at all. Quote
matter2003 Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 6 hours ago, dudacek said: Not sure who caught Lindy’s recent lengthy Buffalo TV interview, but he pretty much said he wants to add somebody who can chuck ‘em. Not in so many words, but in response to a question about it, he acknowledged he’s a coach who likes to have “tools” and said a young team can use somebody who makes them feel brave. Said he’s had many, many conversations with Kevyn about what the team needs. I mean when guys know they have someone that will stand up for them and they don't have to be scared it has to be a good thing, right? 1 Quote
French Collection Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 I agree that more toughness is needed. Watch what you wish for though, Leaf’s got a real tough guy in Reaves, but he can’t play hockey. Plus they are stuck with a three year contract. Jeannot can play 4th line, just depends on the cost to get him. 1 Quote
tom webster Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Every coach, like every manager wants as many resources at their disposal as possible. If it was up to Lindy he would have an offensive zone face off specialist, a defensive zone specialist, dedicated penalty killers, a slot guy for the power play, etc., etc. Reality is that rosters are limited so you need to prioritize and settle. I fully expect them to add some grit to the bottom six, I'm not sure about a dedicated fighter. 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: I mean when guys know they have someone that will stand up for them and they don't have to be scared it has to be a good thing, right? If you you're a Sabre who needs this, I hope Adams trades you yesterday. Fully fine with adding more grit and guys who can rough-house more. I don't need Cozens being the one dropping gloves if someone else can address it but if you are a Sabre and are afraid to get in a scrum without someone else "standing up for you" I have no time for you. 5 1 Quote
dudacek Posted June 18 Author Report Posted June 18 25 minutes ago, tom webster said: Every coach, like every manager wants as many resources at their disposal as possible. If it was up to Lindy he would have an offensive zone face off specialist, a defensive zone specialist, dedicated penalty killers, a slot guy for the power play, etc., etc. Reality is that rosters are limited so you need to prioritize and settle. I fully expect them to add some grit to the bottom six, I'm not sure about a dedicated fighter. And this was very much the context of what he said. Interviewer asks what the priorities are over the next month, Lindy brings up toughness, interviewer follows up with question about tough guys, Lindy says it’s a tool he likes to have. Starts just after 23 minutes. Interesting interview overall. 1 1 Quote
JohnC Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 39 minutes ago, tom webster said: Every coach, like every manager wants as many resources at their disposal as possible. If it was up to Lindy he would have an offensive zone face off specialist, a defensive zone specialist, dedicated penalty killers, a slot guy for the power play, etc., etc. Reality is that rosters are limited so you need to prioritize and settle. I fully expect them to add some grit to the bottom six, I'm not sure about a dedicated fighter. I'm not into fighting. In fact, I believe it should be banned because of the player safety issue. (I usually get booed when I say that.) 😀 As you smartly point out, there is a big distinction between playing grittier/tougher and fighting. It's indisputable that this team needs to get grittier. You accomplish that by bringing in some players who add that element to the roster. 2 1 3 1 1 Quote
tom webster Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 31 minutes ago, dudacek said: And this was very much the context of what he said. Interviewer asks what the priorities are over the next month, Lindy brings up toughness, interviewer follows up with question about tough guys, Lindy says it’s a tool he likes to have. Starts just after 23 minutes. Interesting interview overall. I really like the interview as well. Quote
mjd1001 Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 1 hour ago, JohnC said: I'm not into fighting. In fact, I believe it should be banned because of the player safety issue. (I usually get booed when I say that.) 😀 As you smartly point out, there is a big distinction between playing grittier/tougher and fighting. It's indisputable that this team needs to get grittier. You accomplish that by bringing in some players who add that element to the roster. I totally agree with the bolded. In fact, if it is fast paced, high scoring game, I often don't like when 'one side' decides to start a fight to 'change the tone' if they can't keep up. With that said, if fighting is still a part of the league, them I'm good with them adding a guy who is pretty good at it. Hopefully this guy won't go out there and start them just because 'that is his job', but maybe having a guy is a bit of a deterrent to the other team. 2 Quote
JohnC Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: I totally agree with the bolded. In fact, if it is fast paced, high scoring game, I often don't like when 'one side' decides to start a fight to 'change the tone' if they can't keep up. With that said, if fighting is still a part of the league, them I'm good with them adding a guy who is pretty good at it. Hopefully this guy won't go out there and start them just because 'that is his job', but maybe having a guy is a bit of a deterrent to the other team. Olympic and college hockey don't allow fighting. Both games are entertaining hockey to watch. Anyone who has watched top tier college hockey recognizes that it doesn't lack for physicality. Last year, Cozens instigated a fight to stir up his own players. He got his face smashed in, and he wasn't the same player for quite a while. It seems that most hockey fans enjoy it. I do not. It should be banned. My recommendation for hockey fans who like fighting is that they should go to boxing and MMA matches. Hockey hooliganism is outdated. I will say it again that tough and hard play have nothing to do with fighting! 1 3 1 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 Fighting is so useless hopefully it's a guy that hits and fights and actually is good at hockey and not a Andrew Peters 1 1 1 Quote
Stoner Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 I don't want a thug who beats someone down after Jack Quinn gets murdered. I want a murderer of our own. I will surely clutch my pearls, clench my beehind and look away, but it's absolutely something we don't have and definitely need. 3 Quote
inkman Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: If you you're a Sabre who needs this, I hope Adams trades you yesterday. Fully fine with adding more grit and guys who can rough-house more. I don't need Cozens being the one dropping gloves if someone else can address it but if you are a Sabre and are afraid to get in a scrum without someone else "standing up for you" I have no time for you. I agree but I’ve also seen teammates get jazzed when someone on their team dropped the gloves. I think it’s a necessary evil that can get some extra motivation and emotion involved in the games. Not that you disagree with that premise. Quote
... Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 18 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I don't want a thug who beats someone down after Jack Quinn gets murdered. I want a murderer of our own. I will surely clutch my pearls, clench my beehind and look away, but it's absolutely something we don't have and definitely need. 2 1 Quote
Stoner Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 No, seriously. I'm pushing 60, the years are rolling by, I have some health issues, and I work with the elderly. I see the end. I am an exasperated Elaine when she finally pulled the pin on the ultimate solution to her stinky hair. Sauce me! 1 Quote
Weave Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 42 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I don't want a thug who beats someone down after Jack Quinn gets murdered. I want a murderer of our own. I will surely clutch my pearls, clench my beehind and look away, but it's absolutely something we don't have and definitely need. 1 Quote
In The Buff Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 I'd prefer to see some fight in our players, not necessarily a fighter to be brought in. But can you teach toughness? I believe you can but it takes a long time to develop it. Not to mention a cultural change. Ruff does have the stuff to make us tough, but will it be enough? Our teams have been a bunch of cream puffs. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 5 hours ago, dudacek said: And this was very much the context of what he said. Interviewer asks what the priorities are over the next month, Lindy brings up toughness, interviewer follows up with question about tough guys, Lindy says it’s a tool he likes to have. Starts just after 23 minutes. Interesting interview overall. So the priority is toughness? Old school coach brought back, old school philosophy? I admitted at the time the hire was in large part an attempt to invigorate the fan base (a very successful one at that, I found it exciting), but…is..is that all there is to it? Quote
pi2000 Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 I miss 80's and 90's hockey. Today's game feels like watching an All-Star game... a bunch of skill guys buzzing around trying to out skate and dangle each other. Head-down? Doesn't matter... it takes zero courage or toughness to succeed as a professional hockey player, just make sure your parents pay enough for private lessons when you're playing youth hockey. Can't afford private lessons? Find another sport. The days of out hustling, out hitting, playing with reckless abandon to fill a role are gone. As a result, the game is now more popular with a different crowd... those who didn't like the aggressive nature of the sport and simply enjoy watching the speed and skill. And that's OK. That said, I hope Lindy adds 1 or 2 throwback type players to the 4th line... Tom Wilson, Garnet Hathaway, Dakota Joshua types. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 5 hours ago, JohnC said: I'm not into fighting. In fact, I believe it should be banned because of the player safety issue. (I usually get booed when I say that.) 😀 As you smartly point out, there is a big distinction between playing grittier/tougher and fighting. It's indisputable that this team needs to get grittier. You accomplish that by bringing in some players who add that element to the roster. It should be banned cause it’s asinine. It’s the only (non combat) sport where it’s essentially legal/tolerated/encouraged to..not play the game in question but rather to remove some of your equipment and assault eachother. Safety issue is whatever as it’s their choice..it’s just stupid. Feels like overcompensation. Small man syndrome It’s sort of embarrassing 1 1 2 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted June 18 Report Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: It should be banned cause it’s asinine. It’s the only (non combat) sport where it’s essentially legal/tolerated/encouraged to..not play the game in question but rather to remove some of your equipment and assault eachother. Safety issue is whatever as it’s their choice..it’s just stupid. Feels like overcompensation. Small man syndrome It’s sort of embarrassing In this modern version of the sport, fighting is pointless. Back in the day those guys filled a role and it was the only way they could stay employed. 1 Quote
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