Auston Mathews anyone?

[Thorner]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Why is Matthews nominated for the Selke?

Serious question, not trying to ***** on him.

He seems positionally sound and he’s obviously got the size and skill to match up well. But I’ve never really watched him and said *****, there’s Matthews breaking up another rush, blocking another shot, or taking away another puck.

But I see him 5 or 10 times a year and can’t say I’ve ever focused on him on that side of the puck.

Was there some serious analytics that he dropped this year?

I dunno about fancy schmancy, but he was 2nd overall in takeaways this year 

Crosby was 8th

”I’m literally in love with buffalo” Alex Tuch was…4th. Overall! 

[JoeSchmoe]

Again... Though highly favoured, the Leafs lost this series. 

Contrast and compare with real leadership.

At $13+ million, AM is not worth it.

 

 

[B-U-F-F-A-L-O]

On 5/8/2024 at 6:25 PM, Buffalonill said:

No .. the dude is selfish and only cares about his goal stats.

And poof he disappears in the playoffs

Auston Matthews has 23 goals, 25 assists and a plus-minus of +2 in 55 games in the playoffs in his career.

[Night Train]

 Let's propose the standard Sabrespace trade terms. 

Matthews for Krebs, Rosen and rights to  a Russian player currently missing in wartime. 

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, Night Train said:

 Let's propose the standard Sabrespace trade terms. 

Matthews for Krebs, Rosen and rights to  a Russian player currently missing in wartime. 

We usually throw in a protected first rounder  too. 

[bob_sauve28]

Would anyone trade Dahlin for him?

 

 

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Would anyone trade Dahlin for him?

Hmm, is this a 1 for 1 trade?

[Stoner]

19 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Would anyone trade Dahlin for him?

 

 

No way Toronto makes that deal. Dahlin plus plus maybe.

[bob_sauve28]

20 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Hmm, is this a 1 for 1 trade?

Sure

[GoPuckYourself]

[Warriorspikes51]

Tage, Cozens, 11th pick and two good prospects 

Too much ? 

 

Edited May 10 by Warriorspikes51

[bob_sauve28]

15 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Tage, Cozens, 11th pick and two good prospects 

Too much ? 

 

Too much

[Stoner]

40 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Tage, Cozens, 11th pick and two good prospects 

Too much ? 

 

You're a Leafs fan. You like that return?

Here's some junk in exchange for a 69 goal scorer in his prime.

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Tage, Cozens, 11th pick and two good prospects 

Too much ? 

 

Too much, because you have to take dollars/cap into consideration.

 In Thompson you get a guy that over the last 2 years scores goals at a 41 goal pace per 82.  He is signed long term for $7.1m per year

In Matthews you get a guy who over the last 2 years scores 57 goals per 82. He is signed long term for $13.2m per year (close to double tage)

Matthews is clearly the better/more productive player, there isn't much doubt to that.  But in a cap league where when you start to compete you are close to that cap, I'm not sure I'd even want that trade with even a little beyond just Tage when you consider the money, and what that extra $6+ million can do for you when you get to that point. 

I personally think Tage was playing injured this year and next year I think he is back to being a 50 goal scorer, or very close to it.  I also think Matthews is getting 60 or more again.

I CERTAINLY would not want to make that trade and throw in Cozens. And the 11th pick this year. And 2 additional good prospects. Not even close. (Also keep in mind Matthews does not elevate his play in the playoffs, he is actually LESS productive in the playoffs than the regular season, and there is 8 years of sample size showing that)

Edited May 10 by mjd1001

[Weave]

35 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

You're a Leafs fan. You like that return?

Here's some junk in exchange for a 69 goal scorer in his prime.

[Stoner]

34 minutes ago, Weave said:

Your point?

Would you as a Leafs fan be happy with that haul?

[Warriorspikes51]

5 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Your point?

Would you as a Leafs fan be happy with that haul?

 

Tage + Power + 11 for Matthews. 

 

Too much though. 

[Weave]

32 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Your point?

Would you as a Leafs fan be happy with that haul?

My point is trying to be funny, and nothing more.

 

 

I will shut the door on the way out.

[Stoner]

4 minutes ago, Weave said:

My point is trying to be funny, and nothing more.

 

 

I will shut the door on the way out.

You're more than a funny man!

[bob_sauve28]

7 hours ago, Night Train said:

 Let's propose the standard Sabrespace trade terms. 

Matthews for Krebs, Rosen and rights to  a Russian player currently missing in wartime. 

Why not toss in that guy we drafted in 1981?

As Czechoslovakia was a Communist country at the time of Dudáček's drafting, bringing him to North America was a difficult proposition for the Sabres organization. Dudáček's father was also a high-ranking Communist party member.

While other teams helped Czechoslovak players sneak out of their homeland to come to the NHL, Sabres general manager Scotty Bowman attempted to convince Czechoslovak officials to legally allow Dudáček to come to Buffalo. All efforts were declined by the Czechoslovak sports authorities, though, claiming Dudáček was "too young" to leave the country.[1][2]

[K-9]

7 hours ago, Night Train said:

 Let's propose the standard Sabrespace trade terms. 

Matthews for Krebs, Rosen and rights to  a Russian player currently missing in wartime. 

That’s right up there with the Ruutu, Snuggerud, and a 1st for Gretzky back in the day.

[Porous Five Hole]

LOL the title was changed an hour ago and we are still going to let Austin slide?

[Stoner]

3 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

LOL the title was changed an hour ago and we are still going to let Austin slide?

And...

Austin Mathews:

[dudacek]

19 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Why not toss in that guy we drafted in 1981?

As Czechoslovakia was a Communist country at the time of Dudáček's drafting, bringing him to North America was a difficult proposition for the Sabres organization. Dudáček's father was also a high-ranking Communist party member.

While other teams helped Czechoslovak players sneak out of their homeland to come to the NHL, Sabres general manager Scotty Bowman attempted to convince Czechoslovak officials to legally allow Dudáček to come to Buffalo. All efforts were declined by the Czechoslovak sports authorities, though, claiming Dudáček was "too young" to leave the country.[1][2]

And by the time they let me go, I was good for little else but annoying Sabres fans with my interminable message board posting and tiresome complaints about the lack of good pilsner on Vancouver Island.

[Weave]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

tiresome complaints about the lack of good pilsner on Vancouver Island.

Welp, taking Vancouver Island off the list.