thewookie1 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Hmm, if teams won't play nice with us. I wonder if Lundell would be worth a 1st and 3rd? We could easily Offsheet him at 5x6mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Hmm, if teams won't play nice with us. I wonder if Lundell would be worth a 1st and 3rd? We could easily Offsheet him at 5x6mil. Question is would he want to sign here. I wouldn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 19 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I could see him asking for a trade if that happens Asking and getting are two different things. If he comes into camp and earns the 3rd line centre job ...kudos to him. I think he is really close to being ready but just needs a little more time in the AHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFinn Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 11 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Question is would he want to sign here. I wouldn’t I think his ambitions is leading a cup contender first line. At least he could lead a Sabres first line from day one. I think it takes Savoie and a 2nd, or Savoie and another prospect to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, SabreFinn said: I think his ambitions is leading a cup contender first line. At least he could lead a Sabres first line from day one. I think it takes Savoie and a 2nd, or Savoie and another prospect to get him. That's why I mentioned an offer sheet; you have 2 options to force Florida to the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFinn Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Just now, thewookie1 said: That's why I mentioned an offer sheet; you have 2 options to force Florida to the table. That would be a bold move. I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 Just now, SabreFinn said: That would be a bold move. I like it! Hey if teams want to treat us badly and not in good faith; why should we treat them in good faith? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 29 Report Share Posted June 29 We can offersheet Lundell up to 4.5mil and it only is a 2nd rounder as well 4.5x3 would run him to UFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 If they make a trade for Eriksson Ek or Danault as was earlier rumored, this isn't as ugly as it seems now. But doubt anyone here would want to have money on that happening at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 12 minutes ago, Taro T said: If they make a trade for Eriksson Ek or Danault as was earlier rumored, this isn't as ugly as it seems now. But doubt anyone here would want to have money on that happening at this point. Erikkson Ek is likely out of the picture now, had a clause kick in today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Malenstyn is fast and plays hard, same with Aube-Kubel and Lafferty, and Zucker at least used to be fast. Okposo and Skinner and Olofsson not fast. I think we are seeing a follow through and their commitment to create an identity in the bottom 6. I can see these guys creating some energy for the Peterkas to feed off. Just get me that 3C. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 Playoff team yet? Top six should score some goals, bottom six looks solid, two good goaltenders and a defense that is above average and has depth Injuries to the top six could deflate this team pretty quick, but that's probably true of most teams They should make playoffs this coming year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 On 6/29/2024 at 5:29 PM, thewookie1 said: We can offersheet Lundell up to 4.5mil and it only is a 2nd rounder as well 4.5x3 would run him to UFA Florida would probably match, they’d still have 4.5 mil to sign 2 bottom sixers+a 7D or 13F or both. There’s also rumors of them wanting to move Ekbald which would free up more space to give them more to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 1 Report Share Posted July 1 6 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: Florida would probably match, they’d still have 4.5 mil to sign 2 bottom sixers+a 7D or 13F or both. There’s also rumors of them wanting to move Ekbald which would free up more space to give them more to work with. That's why I use it generally as a threat and with most teams around the league eating their cap alive; trading Ekblad will only get harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 So when Adams said his plan was to overhaul the bottom 6, he wasn’t fooling around. Our projected bottom 6 right now literally has 5 new faces, with Greenway the only holdover. Every one of the new guys is fast - extremely fast even. Every one save Zucker is big and strong. Every one takes care of his own zone. Every one save McLeod loves to hit. The past week has been identity-changing. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 5 Author Report Share Posted July 5 12 minutes ago, dudacek said: So when Adams said his plan was to overhaul the bottom 6, he wasn’t fooling around. Our projected bottom 6 right now literally has 5 new faces, with Greenway the only holdover. Every one of the new guys is fast - extremely fast even. Every one save Zucker is big and strong. Every one takes care of his own zone. Every one save McLeod loves to hit. The past week has been identity-changing. Now lets hope it translates to the ice making the Sabres harder to play against and giving Lindy the ability to roll 4 effective lines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 15 minutes ago, dudacek said: So when Adams said his plan was to overhaul the bottom 6, he wasn’t fooling around. Our projected bottom 6 right now literally has 5 new faces, with Greenway the only holdover. Every one of the new guys is fast - extremely fast even. Every one save Zucker is big and strong. Every one takes care of his own zone. Every one save McLeod loves to hit. The past week has been identity-changing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 Peterka - Thompson - Tuch Benson - Cozens - Quinn Zucker - McLeod - Greenway Malenstyn - Lafferty - Aube-Kubel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 20 minutes ago, dudacek said: So when Adams said his plan was to overhaul the bottom 6, he wasn’t fooling around. Our projected bottom 6 right now literally has 5 new faces, with Greenway the only holdover. Every one of the new guys is fast - extremely fast even. Every one save Zucker is big and strong. Every one takes care of his own zone. Every one save McLeod loves to hit. The past week has been identity-changing. Do you know if we’ve gotten older? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 (edited) @dudacek this is very promising, this sort of represents the unfolding of exactly what I was hoping for when I talked about doing what we could to *separate* from the league in the bottom 6, if we couldn’t match up in the top 6. Not just address the bottom 6, elevate relative to other teams to make up the gap have to do something. This represents creativity from Adams On 6/5/2024 at 3:26 PM, dudacek said: Why not? Is he significantly worse than Corey Perry and Dylan Holloway, currently playing top 9 in the Stanley Cup final I’m not the kind of guy to build my lineup on a hierarchy system. The lines would depend more on role or chemistry. But in terms of ice time, I’d be giving Quinn and Tuch the most and Peterka Benson Skinner Greenway and new guy similar counts based on play and situation. Who were the 3rd liners out of Dumont, Hecht, Grier, Kotalik, Vanek, Afinogenov, Pominville and whichever of Connelly and Roy wasn’t playing centre? On 6/5/2024 at 3:30 PM, Thorny said: I know we hope for upswings and returns to “form”, but if similar to last year we could be in a situation where we are running more less 2 2nd lines if we see the sort of outputs we saw repeat. (Yes I know I took all data all situations it’s just a rough estimate) But it seems to line up: we may very well not have a great or even average top 6, i’d supplement in the bottom 6 if at all possible How do their top 6s look compared to ours Edited July 5 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 7 minutes ago, Thorny said: Peterka - Thompson - Tuch Benson - Cozens - Quinn Zucker - McLeod - Greenway Malenstyn - Lafferty - Aube-Kubel Hmm... hmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Thorny said: Do you know if we’ve gotten older? Been meaning to do the math on it, but have yet to get around to it. My thing is less about average age, and more about number of players in their prime years. Last years team started the year with Tuch, Clifton, Greenway, Olofsson and Girgensons between 25 and 30. Aube-Kubel, Lafferty and Malenstyn also fit. Thompson turned 26 last year. McLeod turns 25 in September. Jokiharju just turned 25 and Dahlin 24, but each has played a ton of NHL games. And I think Adams is on the mark when he says many of the younger players have been around long enough that “youth” needs to stop being an excuse. Edited July 5 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted July 5 Report Share Posted July 5 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dudacek said: Been meaning to do the math on it, but have yet to get around to it. My thing is less about average age, and more about number of players in their prime years. Last years team started the year with Tuch, Clifton, Greenway, Olofsson and Girgensons between 25 and 30. Aube-Kubel, Lafferty and Malenstyn also fit. Thompson turned 26 last year. McLeod turns 25 in September. Jokiharju just turned 25 and Dahlin 24, but each has played a ton of NHL games. Ya it’s just tough to argue with the correlation between youth=failure to make the playoffs I’m not saying it’s binding but I’d feel more comfortable if we didn’t enter the year as the youngest again Edited July 5 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 None of these are likely to happen, but the team has 3 priority needs Top 6 Forward Top 4 Dman Veteran Goalie I'll be very surprised if Adams is able to add any of them. That said, I didn't expect the trade for a solid 3C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted July 6 Report Share Posted July 6 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: None of these are likely to happen, but the team has 3 priority needs Top 6 Forward Top 4 Dman Veteran Goalie I'll be very surprised if Adams is able to add any of them. That said, I didn't expect the trade for a solid 3C We already have a vet goalie in Reimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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